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Tom Lockyer - collapsed again at Bournemouth, recovering in hospital (p23)
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Perhaps they have give him a get out of jail free card.......oops, I mean a relegation clause...😁. Seeing as they were nailed on certs to be relegated for 95% of last season I can see that he'll be back to square one in 10 months time.cafckev said:Wish him well. He stayed and tried to help. Made it clear that he would take up his option to look around etc, so thanks and good luck, but Luton? Surely he could have done better than Luton!1 -
I’m not going to lie - I am disappointed he’s left - but if it allows us to sign Matthews we’ve come off better; Matthews is by far the better footballer10
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golfaddick said:
Perhaps they have give him a get out of jail free card.......oops, I mean a relegation clause...😁. Seeing as they were nailed on certs to be relegated for 95% of last season I can see that he'll be back to square one in 10 months time.cafckev said:Wish him well. He stayed and tried to help. Made it clear that he would take up his option to look around etc, so thanks and good luck, but Luton? Surely he could have done better than Luton!
Loskyer's an international who has played 10 times for his country during which time they have not conceded more than a single goal in any one game and wants to play in the Euros. Playing in the Championship gives him a much better chance of doing so than in League 1
He's still only 25 but has already made 335 appearances for club and country - since his first full season in 2013/14 he has played 47, 48. 45, 51, 43, 50 & 47 times in each of those - no outfield player got close to his 43 starts for us last season. Bearing in mind that, as a CB, he is more liable than most to pick up bookings that is remarkably consistent.
He's no superstar but he's worthy now of playing at a higher level than League 1. The fact that he was allowed to have that clause inserted is more a reflection of our dire situation and I really don't see how anyone can criticise him for wanting to exercise that option
It takes a squad to get relegated. We went down because of our inability to score (only two teams scored less goals but nine conceded more). The pool we've been fishing in is, largely, either of League 1 calibre or players that could play a higher standard than that but are prone to injury. Lockyer is neither of those. And perhaps that's what really bothers some about his departure!8 -
He's been given a 3 year contract, longer than we gave him. He's probably on more money. He pocketed a signing on fee.se9addick said:Fair play, thought he was a good player and right now Luton are a much better bet - especially on a 3 year contract.
A successful day for the guy, good luck to him.2 -
I have bought you an early Christmas present mate. The home top with Mingi on the back.ricky_otto said:
He’s damn sight better that Oshilaja, Mingi, Pratley or Ness.jdsd42 said:Result Not a good footballer - rather have Oztumer Centre back -0 -
Also unlikely to be much personal attachment to the club. How many owners have we had since he signed? Stability has been awful. Probably expected a mass exodus of players with a risk of us going into admin. By going to Luton he can get job security and stability.1
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For me it depends who we can get as a replacement for Lockyer and who we'd have got as a replacement for Matthews had he not stayed.felix_31 said:I’m not going to lie - I am disappointed he’s left - but if it allows us to sign Matthews we’ve come off better; Matthews is by far the better footballer
We needed a Right-Back so its great that Matthews has stayed, but now desperately need some Centre-Backs so lets see who we replace Lockyer with first1 -
Plus he’ll play, at least next season, at a higher level. Probably an important factor as next summer is probably his only potential chance of playing in a major tournament.ElfsborgAddick said:
He's been given a 3 year contract, longer than we gave him. He's probably on more money. He pocketed a signing on fee.se9addick said:Fair play, thought he was a good player and right now Luton are a much better bet - especially on a 3 year contract.
A successful day for the guy, good luck to him.2 -
Sorry to see Tom leave. Always gave 100 per cent for the team and would like to wish him all the best for the future. Just surprised he did not do better thanLuton.3
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Good luck to him sad to see players like him leave, could have stayed and helped us back up again but hey ho.0
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Good luck to him.0
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Luton only stayed up with the help of two own goals on the last day of the season. You need a bit of luck in this game, unfortunately ours was all out last season.
Anyway, good luck to Tom. I liked him.3 -
Cheers - I can put it along side my Wilberforce Ocran and Kenneth Yao shirts.ElfsborgAddick said:
I have bought you an early Christmas present mate. The home top with Mingi on the back.ricky_otto said:
He’s damn sight better that Oshilaja, Mingi, Pratley or Ness.jdsd42 said:Result Not a good footballer - rather have Oztumer Centre back -0 -
Absolutely this. Would prefer Matthews if we can bring in a couple of decent CBS. If Pratley and Deji are starting the season there it’s a huge huge loss.ForeverAddickted said:
For me it depends who we can get as a replacement for Lockyer and who we'd have got as a replacement for Matthews had he not stayed.felix_31 said:I’m not going to lie - I am disappointed he’s left - but if it allows us to sign Matthews we’ve come off better; Matthews is by far the better footballer
We needed a Right-Back so its great that Matthews has stayed, but now desperately need some Centre-Backs so lets see who we replace Lockyer with first2 -
Always been impressed with Pratley at cb. Without injury think he can play there for quite a few more years in L1.
Sorry to see Lockyer go. Luton have a reasonable/good player acquisition structure. Basically their extra cash gave them more depth to their squad and they've been able to target youthful energetic players giving them longer contracts. Having said all this defensively they're not impressive, of all their players only Cornick seems to catch the eye and they've not replaced the two full backs who drove their success in L1.
Unlike Barnsley I can't see them being anywhere other than a relegation dogfight. I hope Barnsley compete at the top end in the champ, which is going to have quite a few bigger teams struggling, just can't see it for Luton.1 -
You'd expect Wycombe and Rotherham to struggle, Coventry are likely to be bottom half as well. Barnsley will be bottom half, Wednesday have a 12 point deduction. Luton definitely have a chance of survival2
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First saw Lockyer in the Gills friendly last summer and he had a bit of a stinker, caught out of position, came up short worryingly too much...
But despite getting relegated, come the end of the season he was 100 miles a better player with the carnival of ownership over shadowing his future, he still did his best.
Still developing as a centre back and in two years will be interesting to see where he will be as I suspect he could do very well under Jones.
Awful clause in his contract, not his fault and I'm not going to dig him out, good luck to him.3 -
Thought he was a good player and gave 100%. Not the biggest CB but fairly decent on the ball. Reminded me a bit of Gareth Southgate although a poor man's one at that. Don't blame him going to Luton any player should be looking to play at the highest level especially trying to get into the Welsh squad. Will never forget watching that Barnsley offside goal against Brentford. This is the direct result and has had huge implications for our club. Barnsley also went very quiet about taking legal action. It really is a dog eat dog world in football. No solidarity whatsoever.2
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Bottom of the Championship is just abt the peak of his level tbf. Good luck to him, as at least he stuck around until the end, but losing players to fucking Luton town pisses me off! Assuming the takeover goes through, there will be loads of players of similar ability available, so not too fussed. We just need to be in the position to offer proper contracts without stupid clauses inserted. Fingers crossed that gallen can negotiate these with a little bit of freedom this summer1
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Half decent CB, comfortable in the Championship.
Protected himself from relegation. Pretty cowardly but legal.0 - Sponsored links:
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Would wind me up more than Taylor if I rated him.0
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Matthews as a free swap for Lockyer is the bargain of the decade
Luton is dead right for Tom
We’re desperately short of defenders but there’s loads available of at least TL’s standard
yesterday’s man and we got relegated yesterday And he didn’t want to put that right
we move onward and upward the lighter for the loss of the deadweight1 -
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-confident-of-defender-deal-but-dependent-on-lockyer-sealing-luton-switch/
Do us a favour Tom if you want to clear off and get your new deal pushed through asap1 -
What? Why?EastTerrace said:Would wind me up more than Taylor if I rated him.0 -
Perhaps he is holding on in the hope a better option than Luton come up. It’s a shame we can’t just release him - that clause should have been a 2 way street.MattF said:https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-confident-of-defender-deal-but-dependent-on-lockyer-sealing-luton-switch/
Do us a favour Tom if you want to clear off and get your new deal pushed through asap3 -
Very very Sorry to see Tom Lockyer go a terrible shame, but as long as this circus carries on and Scum like Southall and Elliot are scraping for financial tit bits, assisted by those Arseholes at the EFL this situation will only get worse.
We need a proper fucking owner before we lose out fantastic manager Lee Bowyer.....0 -
Who knows, might have the same clause with Luton and we just get him back next year2
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Thank god for that0
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Wonder if we can now announce Matthews...0
