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Max Wall used to get in the Old Tigers Head quite a bit as well. Proper old school character.1
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I haven't been in any of those pubs or lived in the area for 26 years - I'd make a pretty shit spy!ElfsborgAddick said:I nominate @SporadicAddick to start/run a thread called 'The Pub Spy'!1 -
I went to Ealdham Square primary School with Richie Bowman and Mark Penfold in the sixties. Peter Reeves and Cyril Hammond from the Fifties also went to our School.2
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Today's episode - Gillingham away from 1974. Could name every player as they ran out and a couple of Gills - Dave Shipperley and Dick Tydeman. Great goal to win it and I've seen far worse away kits! Great memories!2
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Powell's chip, Peacock's header, Bowman's hair and that kit were all quality...Ashers said:Today's episode - Gillingham away from 1974. Could name every player as they ran out and a couple of Gills - Dave Shipperley and Dick Tydeman. Great goal to win it and I've seen far worse away kits! Great memories!3 -
I amazed myself watching the highlites by thinking how much better their ground looked then than now. The game a typical Charlton Gillingham game, we always make hard work of it. Peacocks diving heaed goal shows why you keep running, after that great cross field pass to Powell he then must have sprinted 40 yds to get on the end of the ,rebound, memories of what a good player he was, we were lucky to have him.1
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Some great old songs.
Charlton aggro Charlton aggro hello hello.
Over there over there
How do they smell
Like fucking hell
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Dick Tydeman (who would later join us) and The Ship playing for them. Paddy would end his days with them too and Keith Peacock would go on to be their manager. Our Manager, Andy Nelson, used to be theirs
King Arthur playing at the back
Killer playing on his own up top
Phil Warman, Richie Bowman (wearing number 9!), Peter Hunt, Eamon Dunphy and Keith Peacock all failing the height test. In fact, barely any of the side were over 6 foot
Paddy with his trademark dive
Keith Peacock scoring with a header - an absolute rarity!
Keepers without gloves
A Charlton side that would probably play over 3,000 appearances between them for us
"Those were the days my friend, we thought would never end......"10 -
As did Hales and Bowman..Addick Addict said:Dick Tydeman (who would later join us) and The Ship playing for them. Paddy would end his days with them too and Keith Peacock would go on to be their manager. Our Manager, Andy Nelson, used to be theirs
King Arthur playing at the back
Killer playing on his own up top
Phil Warman, Richie Bowman (wearing number 9!), Peter Hunt, Eamon Dunphy and Keith Peacock all failing the height test. In fact, barely any of the side were over 6 foot
Paddy with his trademark dive
Keith Peacock scoring with a header - an absolute rarity!
Keepers without gloves
A Charlton side that would probably play over 3,000 appearances between them for us
"Those were the days my friend, we thought would never end......"2 -
And I imagine you weren’t a baldybonce?Baldybonce said:
Thanks, i didn't know it was on.GenevaCharlton said:Hi all currently watching Fulham Charlton from 1977, little before my time. What were like to follow back then? Thanks for any insight.
Great fun to follow, not huge numbers but many a good laugh was had.0 - Sponsored links:
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Sometimes a skinhead then long hair, the fashions changed.JamesSeed said:
And I imagine you weren’t a baldybonce?Baldybonce said:
Thanks, i didn't know it was on.GenevaCharlton said:Hi all currently watching Fulham Charlton from 1977, little before my time. What were like to follow back then? Thanks for any insight.
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Loved those white shirts.3
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Damian Richardson playing for Gills in that match - I went to a summer football school that he ran in 1980 when I was 10 - really nice guy - over 300 appearances for Gills and over 100 goals for them - not too shabby1
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@ElfsborgAddickElfsborgAddick said:
When I was old enough to drink I'd go in there. Is it still open?SporadicAddick said:
The Royal OakElfsborgAddick said:
I lived opposite The Greyhound.No.1 in South London said:
I used to work in the woodman on lee high road.... the governor there and his son are Charlton.... I lived on the opposite side of Lee High Road in Aislibie Road. I remember Richie being from around our way but didn’t realise is was so close ..... cheersElfsborgAddick said:
He lived 50 yards down the road from me in Lee Church Street, Lewisham.ChicagoAddick said:I was already smitten by 1977. It would have been my 2nd or 3rd season going with the old man. Too young to go to away games so used to listen to LBC. We were rubbish away from home and to win we’d invariably had to score at least 3. Powell was my favourite, but little Richie Bowman was a great little player.
Max Wall lived not far from me as well. He used the boozer at the top of Lee Church Street, whose name escapes me.
I think The Greyhound and The Swan are both gone.
@No.1 in South London
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As a kid, I loved watching Powell marauding down the wing.ChicagoAddick said:I was already smitten by 1977. It would have been my 2nd or 3rd season going with the old man. Too young to go to away games so used to listen to LBC. We were rubbish away from home and to win we’d invariably had to score at least 3. Powell was my favourite, but little Richie Bowman was a great little player.1 -
Not to mention his push the ball pass the full back and dive over the defender's legs swiftly followed by a co-ordinated chorus of "penalty ref" from behind the goal. Which usually did the trick!MuttleyCAFC said:
As a kid, I loved watching Powell marauding down the wing.ChicagoAddick said:I was already smitten by 1977. It would have been my 2nd or 3rd season going with the old man. Too young to go to away games so used to listen to LBC. We were rubbish away from home and to win we’d invariably had to score at least 3. Powell was my favourite, but little Richie Bowman was a great little player.2 -
Went to Crown Woods with Richie Bowman was in the same year and same football team. He was also, like me, taught to play tennis by Keith Peacock during the close season. After he left Charlton he went onto Gillingham and broke his leg, ended up in Medway Hospital, I'd moved with my then wife to Strood and she was a nurse at Medway, I went to pick her up from work and Richie was on her ward. So went over and had a long chat with him about him playing for Charlton and our Crown Woods days. Never saw him again after he was discharged but I think he went back to Gillingham and then retired? He was a great little player, very skillful.1
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A guy at my tennis club was in the youth with him. Still sees him regularly.
Was a bit of a hero of mine the short time he was with us. Met him when he handed out medals in junior Cup finals. Nice guy, left under a cloud to Reading. A big loss to us at the time.1 -
I know he went on to play Sunday league for Santogee (sp?) in the mid to late 80s. They used to play a sports club my old man ran for Samual Montague (the bank, not the boys clubs, but it was the smaller club house in the same field, think it's now Shooter's Hill Social Club). Cracking player at that level, scored a fantastic goal in the Metropolitan Cup final. I was only a kids (9-13 whilst my parents ran the club), but I'd sometimes play pool with Richie if he and his mates were 1 short for doubles on a Friday night. He lived in Broad Walk at the time and ran the sandwich bar in Hayes Gallaria.Redmidland said:Went to Crown Woods with Richie Bowman was in the same year and same football team. He was also, like me, taught to play tennis by Keith Peacock during the close season. After he left Charlton he went onto Gillingham and broke his leg, ended up in Medway Hospital, I'd moved with my then wife to Strood and she was a nurse at Medway, I went to pick her up from work and Richie was on her ward. So went over and had a long chat with him about him playing for Charlton and our Crown Woods days. Never saw him again after he was discharged but I think he went back to Gillingham and then retired? He was a great little player, very skillful.1 -
Ok, was the Kent Premier Cup final, not Metropolitan cup. Was played down in Ashford (remember going on the coach) and found some images from the program on Facebook. Santogee were a very good side. Won pretty much everything in the 5 years my old man ran the ground. Apart from Richie, they had a handful or then current Erith and Belvedere, and Gravesend and Northfleet players I think. So pretty much a semi-pro quality Sunday league side. Their keeper was fantastic, only 5'9" and that was why he wasn't playing lower league footballrandy andy said:
I know he went on to play Sunday league for Santogee (sp?) in the mid to late 80s. They used to play a sports club my old man ran for Samual Montague (the bank, not the boys clubs, but it was the smaller club house in the same field, think it's now Shooter's Hill Social Club). Cracking player at that level, scored a fantastic goal in the Metropolitan Cup final. I was only a kids (9-13 whilst my parents ran the club), but I'd sometimes play pool with Richie if he and his mates were 1 short for doubles on a Friday night. He lived in Broad Walk at the time and ran the sandwich bar in Hayes Gallaria.Redmidland said:Went to Crown Woods with Richie Bowman was in the same year and same football team. He was also, like me, taught to play tennis by Keith Peacock during the close season. After he left Charlton he went onto Gillingham and broke his leg, ended up in Medway Hospital, I'd moved with my then wife to Strood and she was a nurse at Medway, I went to pick her up from work and Richie was on her ward. So went over and had a long chat with him about him playing for Charlton and our Crown Woods days. Never saw him again after he was discharged but I think he went back to Gillingham and then retired? He was a great little player, very skillful.
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I stood outside the players entrance as a kid after the game, a mate of mine wanted autographs. It was Ritchie’s debut home game and his Mum was waiting with us, she was so proud of her boy. He was really quite a humble bloke but was beaming ear to ear when his Mum greeted him.Covered End said:I spoke to Richie recently and told him I remembered as a kid, an action photo of him scoring a goal in the programme. (I was assuming he was thinking go away you weirdo).
I was amazed when he said, yes that was me scoring against Hereford I remember it well.
My gob has rarely been so smacked.6 -
Me and my best mate at the time got a coach from Lewisham down to Gillingham. Wearing the usual gear of the times rolled up flares, DM’s and silk Charlton scarves tied to each wrist (sounds very camp now doesn’t it). We decided we’d go into the home end just after 2pm only to find that only a small handful of Charlton were in there when the game kicked off. Looking back it was pretty stupid,but we’d previously got away with it at Watford when we were a bit younger and thought we’d do it again We stood surrounded by coppers and obviously got a lot of abuse but nothing really happened. At half time the old bill decided to take us around to the away end escorting us around the pitch where we got applauded by our fans. Not that we had done anything but at school on Monday our boast was that we took the Rainham end. The fun really began for me and my mate after the game though as our coach didn’t leave Gillingham until 7pm, long after our fans had gone home. Safe to say we both saw a lot of the back streets of Gillingham as various blokes gave chase, hiding down little alleyways. Happy days though. Bit of fun and pretty tame compared to some of our trips up north.Ashers said:Today's episode - Gillingham away from 1974. Could name every player as they ran out and a couple of Gills - Dave Shipperley and Dick Tydeman. Great goal to win it and I've seen far worse away kits! Great memories!1 -
On the Max Wall spotting theme...Max would also pop into the Northbrook in Lee for a jar. I believe the Lord Northbrook is still going strong!
I've still got my Charlton Silk from the 70s. Great days. It was all or nothing - score loads, giveaway loads. Or as journalist and Addick, Patrick Collins reported: "Charlton charge like the seventh cavalry and defend like Custer's Last Stand."1 -
The Dacre Arms was a lovely little pub back in the day. Tucked away.SporadicAddick said:
walked past it hundreds of times, never went in...ElfsborgAddick said:@SporadicAddick, I remember a few beers in the Mid Kent Tavern outside Lewisham Station, it was so narrow I'd struggle walking past the bar nowadays.
That was decent.
Add The Dacre Arms to the Lee Church Street pubs / Woodman and there were 5 pubs withing a 2 / 3 minute walk. A good circuit...
The other one was New Tigers Head, Old Tigers Head, The Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh.0 -
One thing I've picked up from this thread ....... Max Wall got about a bit.1
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And quite liked a drink.Off_it said:One thing I've picked up from this thread ....... Max Wall got about a bit.0 -
I don't know about The Dacres now but I used to visit with a certain current Micro Pub owner and former poster who used to be regular even more so when the old landlord of the Bee Hive in New Eltham, Terry Freak, took over the pub. The Dacres was like someone's front room and the regulars used to help tidy up at the end of the evening making it even more so. Actors and musicians such as Jools Holland were amongst the clientele.LenGlover said:
The Dacre Arms was a lovely little pub back in the day. Tucked away.SporadicAddick said:
walked past it hundreds of times, never went in...ElfsborgAddick said:@SporadicAddick, I remember a few beers in the Mid Kent Tavern outside Lewisham Station, it was so narrow I'd struggle walking past the bar nowadays.
That was decent.
Add The Dacre Arms to the Lee Church Street pubs / Woodman and there were 5 pubs withing a 2 / 3 minute walk. A good circuit...
The other one was New Tigers Head, Old Tigers Head, The Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh.2 -
I also had a drink with Max in Lee. Can't remember which pub though.
Richie Bowman still goes to most games. He wasn't a fan of Nelson but accepted that he drove the 1974/75 team to promotion.
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You should have stayed away from the caravan sites.TEL said:
Me and my best mate at the time got a coach from Lewisham down to Gillingham. Wearing the usual gear of the times rolled up flares, DM’s and silk Charlton scarves tied to each wrist (sounds very camp now doesn’t it). We decided we’d go into the home end just after 2pm only to find that only a small handful of Charlton were in there when the game kicked off. Looking back it was pretty stupid,but we’d previously got away with it at Watford when we were a bit younger and thought we’d do it again We stood surrounded by coppers and obviously got a lot of abuse but nothing really happened. At half time the old bill decided to take us around to the away end escorting us around the pitch where we got applauded by our fans. Not that we had done anything but at school on Monday our boast was that we took the Rainham end. The fun really began for me and my mate after the game though as our coach didn’t leave Gillingham until 7pm, long after our fans had gone home. Safe to say we both saw a lot of the back streets of Gillingham as various blokes gave chase, hiding down little alleyways. Happy days though. Bit of fun and pretty tame compared to some of our trips up north.Ashers said:Today's episode - Gillingham away from 1974. Could name every player as they ran out and a couple of Gills - Dave Shipperley and Dick Tydeman. Great goal to win it and I've seen far worse away kits! Great memories!0
