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Sheff Weds Decision 12 points Next season

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  • Wtf!
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Wtf!
    This.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited November 2020
    The thing with going into administration, everybody understands the punishment. Why is it 12 points? Because the league decided that was appropriate. What you need is set standard punishments if a club breaks certain rules and no vagueness. So if Wednesday's punishment is halved, there is still an admission that rules were broken. Not having a clear enough set punishment allows crap like this to happen. It comes down to lawyers and precedents when it should come down to facts.

    Are Sheffield Wednesday cheats? 100% yes.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    Bullshit decision. Makes you sick doesn’t it, there’s zero integrity in football nowadays. 
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,001
    As golf addick says they probably knew this would happen.If we had stayed up as a result of the 12 points deduction would they have had to subsequently relegate us
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    There's no point sticking to the ffp rules. We may as well break the salary cap, we could argue the efl enforced embargo was a restriction of trade. 
  • Odd decision.  If they have cheated they should have the book thrown at them; if they haven't they should be let off.  6 points is just random.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Hmmm

    Wonder how Macclesfield fans feel?
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,018
    Odd decision.  If they have cheated they should have the book thrown at them; if they haven't they should be let off.  6 points is just random.
    They cheated but not full on cheated, more like half cheated. It's ludicrous. I still hope the pricks go down  somehow
  • So the rule is 12 point deduction as standard. Birmingham got a reduction to 9 for fully cooperating. Sheffield W tried to hide the date of the ground sale which apparently doesn’t breach the ‘good faith’ clause which would be a reason for enhancing the penalty. They now end up with a smaller reduction than Birmingham. 
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  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,277
    Wednesday still haven't submitted their most recent accounts have they? What are the odds this'll happen all over again next year?
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,277
    edited November 2020
    On SSN, 12 point deduction halved by arbitration panel and now move off the bottom of the league. Fucking joke.
    Not off the bottom any more, cos Wycombe have just beaten Birmingham 2-1 (thanks to an injury time own goal by a Brum defender according to the Beeb live text), so they're up to 3rd from bottom, and Wednesday are back down there again. How sad.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Absolutely appalling decision.

    And they are still cheating. One can but hope that SW and Rooney FC go down. Coach my arse.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    edited November 2020
    So we have an organisation that have a set criteria of rules to play by. Everyone signs up for it but when it goes wrong you can complain and an independent panel says the rules.you agreed to are wrong. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    The system is broken. It needs reform.
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,113
    Decision is atrocious.  EFL not fit for purpose and SW cheating pricks. Can't stand them. 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    Congratulations on your promotion to the Premier League Weds. I really think EFL haven't gone far enough. Perhaps, come end of season if they haven't got enough points to get promoted just bung them a few come end of season.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    So the rule is 12 point deduction as standard. Birmingham got a reduction to 9 for fully cooperating. Sheffield W tried to hide the date of the ground sale which apparently doesn’t breach the ‘good faith’ clause which would be a reason for enhancing the penalty. They now end up with a smaller reduction than Birmingham. 
    I believe the maximum is a 21 point penalty. Obviously only for extreme cases like paying for players to have a burger on the way home.
  • And I thought live pantomimes were banned this year.....

    EFL.

    Effing

    Feckin'

    Losers.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    I have claimed several times that I believe the EFL is corrupt and people say no they are just incompetent. 

    Well I stand by what I've always said.
    Corrupt bunch of wankers 
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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,225
    FFP has been scrapped and the new  DWYFW (Do Whatever You Fucking Want) rule has been introduced.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Complete joke
  • Just wait until a small club in div 2 breaks the rules,21 points deduction,absollute farce,going from bad to worse,agree with previous poster,brown envelopes flying about here.
  • Redrobo said:
    Absolutely appalling decision.

    And they are still cheating. One can but hope that SW and Rooney FC go down. Coach my arse.
    Derby are about to be bought by the Man City owners cousin so there's only one way they'll be going
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    Inept, corrupt, self-serving nonsence and an affront to the footballing public.

    The new moto of the EFL

    Massive CNUTS

    The moto of Sheffield Wednesday.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I have claimed several times that I believe the EFL is corrupt and people say no they are just incompetent. 

    Well I stand by what I've always said.
    Corrupt bunch of wankers 
    They are definitely one of the two. Neither are a good look.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    So basically you can cheat and break the  rules and there is little that the EFL can do about it, because of their maladminstrstion of the leagues.
    A consequence of this is it will reinforce the governments rejection of any financial support for league football. Why would you give money to the corrupt teams in this league while the EFL in capable of adminastrating the leagues.
  • Am I being cynical to say that the EFL knew back in August that this was likely to happen & that's why they didn't push for the points deduction to be actioned last season. Imagine how it would look now if the EFL turned round & said..."sorry we relegated you for no reason"

    Exactly!
  • Wankers! EFL and Wednesday
  • So who were the members of the independent panel?