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Thoughts on Chris Solly not playing (Dec 20 - Page.6 signs for Ebbsfleet)
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Just seen he hasn't played since January when we lost in the FA Cup, that's a very long time to not be playing.LenGlover said:Did Ebbsfleet's 3-0 defeat on Saturday come too soon for Solly or was he playing does anyone know?
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I mean, this is probably it. Solly's best football (by far) was under powell, and i cant imagine powell not being the arm round the shoulder type of manager... since that's what he's like as a person anyway.Gravesend_Addick said:
Or he wasn't strong enough & Bowyer has really messed Solly up mentallydajavouslagan said:
Agreed. For me it was a personality clash with Bowyer, Solly probably strong enough to stand up to him & we know what that means!Huskaris said:Well I think of all the possible reasons he left, greed can probably be ruled out, which makes it a lot easier for me.
Maybe Bowyer asked for more, solly said he couldn't because of his knee and bowyer just froze him out.0 -
...to CrockenhillCafc43v3r said:
Yup refused to play incase it scuppered a big money move next month.killerandflash said:
Did he refuse to play again?Hartleypete said:
Not according to their site, wasn’t in the squad.LenGlover said:Did Ebbsfleet's 3-0 defeat on Saturday come too soon for Solly or was he playing does anyone know?
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I never said that he refused to play because he had a big lucrative move lined up. Far from it I suspect. He simply didn't want an injury to scupper any move after the season had finished. He probably didn't have anything lined up but he probably felt getting another injury & not being fit for the start of a new season (inc any pre-season) would hamper him.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Pretty clear to most people that's not what happened with Solly.golfaddick said:All I have to say is.........
"How did that work our for you Chris....? Still think you did the right thing by not honouring your contract & seeing out the season with your feet up on the basis that if you got injured during June & July your '"career" would be over ? "
Chickens have surely come home to roost.
There's no way Solly refused to play ahead of a big lucrative move like Taylor did.
But, as I was alluding to, not playing & staying fit still didnt help him. So lose/lose. No-one can say how it might have turned out if he HAD seen out the season contractually, but one thing is for certain it wouldn't have been lose/lose as he would have left with the blessing of the fans.1 -
Let's be honest Solly as a footballer has been the shadow of himself for the past 2 or 3 seasons
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Solly was never going to recapture his best form (when he played down the right with Wagstaff) but I thought he looked good at the start of last season.Hartleypete said:Let's be honest Solly as a footballer has been the shadow of himself for the past 2 or 3 seasons2 -
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The former Charlton captain does not believe the full facts have come out about his Valley exit. But he also has no appetite to dig up the subject again now.
Must have resolved his issues with the PFA maybe, what with him talking now but leaving the subject his exit quiet
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“There are still a lot of people at the club I’ve got a lot of respect for. The likes of Keithy Peacock, Steve Avory and Chris Parkes – some of the best people I know are working at that club. I’m grateful and thankful for people like that, who did so much for me.”
Definitely reads as though he fell out with Bowyer.9 -
A lot left unsaid there. Sad that it ended in that way, he deserved a proper send off. Hope he gets a decent move to someone in L2 or something in January.5
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It still doesn't cover why he wasn't available for the last 9 games though, which is the main issue most fans have6
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Agree there's a lot left unsaid, but it sounds like Solly himself is drawing a line under it. I know a lot of people need to know all the ins and outs of what happened, but this really is a time to say "move on".
I was disappointed the way his time with us came to an end, but wish him well.8 -
Sorry for being a pedant but “most” is over egging it I think. “Some” is more appropriate.killerandflash said:It still doesn't cover why he wasn't available for the last 9 games though, which is the main issue most fans have
I’ll only ever be positive about Solly. The guy gave us 10 years of fantastic service and I’d prefer to remember that...18 -
Especially, Matthews didn’t play against Brentford away and Lapslie was sent in to cover as RWB. That would have been a match that Solly would have played. Whether it would have made a difference to the result in the end but he was needed at that particular period of time.killerandflash said:It still doesn't cover why he wasn't available for the last 9 games though, which is the main issue most fans have1 -
Matthews did play Brentford away.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Especially, Matthews didn’t play against Brentford away and Lapslie was sent in to cover as RWB. That would have been a match that Solly would have played. Whether it would have made a difference to the result in the end but he was needed at that particular period of time.killerandflash said:It still doesn't cover why he wasn't available for the last 9 games though, which is the main issue most fans have
It was Cardiff that Matthews didnt play a game we drew 0-0 so kept a clean sheet anyway, so I dont see a RB making much of a difference.
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Wished Solly all the best when he went to ebbsfleet.
I'm not bothered why he didnt play the last games.
Even Taylor not playing the last few games bothers me that much.
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Can’t ever knock Solly... we don’t know what happened but his loyalty and stats speak for themselves.Good luck Chris, hope to see you down the valley again real soon7
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To me he's probably the last player i'll see in my lifetime achieve 10 years and a testimonial.
He always gave 100%, was a really good player for us, hampered by the injury that he managed as best he could.
I played golf with him once, off the pitch he seemed a really nice down earth 'normal' guy.
I wish him all the best, no hard feelings at all from me, Charlton legend.11 -
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Great player in his day but by last season he wasn't the same player. Didn't take players on & so invariably when he crossed the half way line with the ball his only real option was to pass sideways or backwards.
However, he let the team (and therefore its fans) down by not being available after June 30th. The season was still in progress so in my mind he basically worked to rules & decided that was it. Not acceptable in my book......either by him or Taylor. That's why both will get boo-ed, jeered & catcalled by the Golfie family any time they play against us.
And as someone has previously said......he says a lot in that article but didnt address that main issue. Poor form in my book.4 -
Firstly - I thought that was an excellent interview. Interesting in-depth read and well presented.
Solly was a victim of circumstances - both with the chaos and limitations on Charlton's ability to sign/contract players during the ESI fiasco and then with the looming crisis caused by the pandemic.
I'm sure, that without either of these, the situation would be vastly different and Chris would either have left with the blessing of us all or he would be somewhere in the coaching set up supporting the existing team and encouraging the youngsters.
Oh, and Golfie will get boo-ed, jeered & catcalled by the Addickted family any time we see them at The Valley.
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Except we don't know that's what took place do we? Some of what we could see (Sol's non-selection) sort of matched the sitch with the snake and the rest was pure conjecture. All anybody from LB down ever said was that CS wasn't available, LB wasn't sure why. As we've seen a couple of times just recently LB's filter is patchy when he's disappointed.golfaddick said:Great player in his day but by last season he wasn't the same player. Didn't take players on & so invariably when he crossed the half way line with the ball his only real option was to pass sideways or backwards.
However, he let the team (and therefore its fans) down by not being available after June 30th. The season was still in progress so in my mind he basically worked to rules & decided that was it. Not acceptable in my book......either by him or Taylor. That's why both will get boo-ed, jeered & catcalled by the Golfie family any time they play against us.
And as someone has previously said......he says a lot in that article but didnt address that main issue. Poor form in my book.
There's no abiding rancour from player or club - only know nothing keyboard worriers.
Cawley's a decent journalist but if there were any smoke at all, there'd be something in this article, he might have been expecting some, otherwise why an SLP article on an out of contract player joining Gravesend's Conference South team? Not exactly 'hold the back page is it'?7 -
I really hope when it comes out that he never actually refused to play, you take this back, because this is not the first time you have said this, despite being told many times this is not whay happenedgolfaddick said:Great player in his day but by last season he wasn't the same player. Didn't take players on & so invariably when he crossed the half way line with the ball his only real option was to pass sideways or backwards.
However, he let the team (and therefore its fans) down by not being available after June 30th. The season was still in progress so in my mind he basically worked to rules & decided that was it. Not acceptable in my book......either by him or Taylor. That's why both will get boo-ed, jeered & catcalled by the Golfie family any time they play against us.
And as someone has previously said......he says a lot in that article but didnt address that main issue. Poor form in my book.2 -
If you know, definitively, what did happen please let us know because otherwise the speculation will continue.paulie8290 said:
I really hope when it comes out that he never actually refused to play, you take this back, because this is not the first time you have said this, despite being told many times this is not whay happenedgolfaddick said:Great player in his day but by last season he wasn't the same player. Didn't take players on & so invariably when he crossed the half way line with the ball his only real option was to pass sideways or backwards.
However, he let the team (and therefore its fans) down by not being available after June 30th. The season was still in progress so in my mind he basically worked to rules & decided that was it. Not acceptable in my book......either by him or Taylor. That's why both will get boo-ed, jeered & catcalled by the Golfie family any time they play against us.
And as someone has previously said......he says a lot in that article but didnt address that main issue. Poor form in my book.0 -
I have already said what I have been told that I was told by someone close to Chris and it was confirmed by someone who works at the club but I am not naming namessouthamptonaddick said:
If you know, definitively, what did happen please let us know because otherwise the speculation will continue.paulie8290 said:
I really hope when it comes out that he never actually refused to play, you take this back, because this is not the first time you have said this, despite being told many times this is not whay happenedgolfaddick said:Great player in his day but by last season he wasn't the same player. Didn't take players on & so invariably when he crossed the half way line with the ball his only real option was to pass sideways or backwards.
However, he let the team (and therefore its fans) down by not being available after June 30th. The season was still in progress so in my mind he basically worked to rules & decided that was it. Not acceptable in my book......either by him or Taylor. That's why both will get boo-ed, jeered & catcalled by the Golfie family any time they play against us.
And as someone has previously said......he says a lot in that article but didnt address that main issue. Poor form in my book.2 -
Though does seem odd to me that Solly wouldn't want to clear things up in quite an in-depth interview. It's not like he has to be brutally honest but I'd have thought he'd want to clear his name by now.paulie8290 said:
I really hope when it comes out that he never actually refused to play, you take this back, because this is not the first time you have said this, despite being told many times this is not whay happenedgolfaddick said:Great player in his day but by last season he wasn't the same player. Didn't take players on & so invariably when he crossed the half way line with the ball his only real option was to pass sideways or backwards.
However, he let the team (and therefore its fans) down by not being available after June 30th. The season was still in progress so in my mind he basically worked to rules & decided that was it. Not acceptable in my book......either by him or Taylor. That's why both will get boo-ed, jeered & catcalled by the Golfie family any time they play against us.
And as someone has previously said......he says a lot in that article but didnt address that main issue. Poor form in my book.0 -
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@southamptonaddick its all on that page, everything I know0 -
The most obvious scenario was Charlton/Bowyer asked Solly to extend his contract until the end of June.
Solly, didn't want to, as he hadn't played since December, wasn't getting another contract and was looking to move on. They fell out.8 -
That's putting it diplomatically. In the end, Solly couldn't tackle, couldn't turn, and had no pace. Ordinary Third Division players were running rings round him - it was quite sad to watch.Hartleypete said:Let's be honest Solly as a footballer has been the shadow of himself for the past 2 or 3 seasons
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