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Not in the slightest bit interested ;-)RaplhMilne said:
Brought forward for those interested.Rob7Lee said:bobmunro
7395
Mronelung
7200
gunnessaddick
6969
LargeAddick
6899
Huskaris
6825
meldrew66
6789
Daarrrzzettbum
6750
Covered End
6700
golfaddick
6666
CharltonKerry
6649
PragueAddick
6450
Rob7Lee
6420
RalphMilne
6397
Exiledin Manchester
6320
happy valley
6299
blackpool72
6255
StrikerFirmani
6250
WishIdStayedInThe Pub
6232
wwaddick
6013
HardyAddick
5950
CAFCsayer
5948
Salad
5897
oohaahmortimer
5750
Gary Poole
5450
5000
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6420, it’s in the bag!!!0
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I bought at a few different prices, 1.13 was break even, might sell tomorrow.Daarrzzetbum said:
Just sold my Metro Bank holding not a too shabby 22% return, cashed profit and used original capital sum to buy into COPL, should see a nice return, fingers crossed in 4-6 months 🤞🤞👍👍Rob7Lee said:
Still a chance I’ll make it, 6450 I think I said.golfaddick said:
same here. I had 6666 & was looking good last week. FTSE100 now below 6400. Bloody Covid........and the French !Rob7Lee said:Not looking too pretty today, glad I cashed in some over the past few weeks. Have a bit over 1/5th of my SIPP in Cash now, was predominantly to transfer the final amounts from Fidelity to ii and took some profit in ii as well.
I was looking so close for the end of year FTSE prediction as well
on the plus side I can buy back in at a cheaper rate and might finally be able to dump my metro bank shares for a profit!!1 -
It would be if the comp had been to close of play today. FTSE100 finished at 6416. Unfortunately for you we have another 10 days to go. And the market often has a little rally towards the end of the year so I'm expecting 6500+.Rob7Lee said:6420, it’s in the bag!!!0 -
I think this year could be the year of no rally. Can't see over 6,500.2
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I agree. The markets drift up after Christmas because they are all off work grazing and counting their bonuses. This year they will all have to stay alert.Rob7Lee said:I think this year could be the year of no rally. Can't see over 6,500.
I’m sitting at 6450, I respectfully remind you...but anything could happen. More likely bad...1 -
Really thought I was looking good. Devastated.PragueAddick said:
I agree. The markets drift up after Christmas because they are all off work grazing and counting their bonuses. This year they will all have to stay alert.Rob7Lee said:I think this year could be the year of no rally. Can't see over 6,500.
I’m sitting at 6450, I respectfully remind you...but anything could happen. More likely bad...0 -
Gents proposal, as it’s the season of goodwill, due to all this C19, tiers & Brexit Trade Deal malarkey, can this be deferred for 4 weeks, nothing to do at all with my 6750 prediction, honestly 😳🤥🤥RaplhMilne said:
Brought forward for those interested.Rob7Lee said:bobmunro
7395
Mronelung
7200
gunnessaddick
6969
LargeAddick
6899
Huskaris
6825
meldrew66
6789
Daarrrzzettbum
6750
Covered End
6700
golfaddick
6666
CharltonKerry
6649
PragueAddick
6450
Rob7Lee
6420
RalphMilne
6397
Exiledin Manchester
6320
happy valley
6299
blackpool72
6255
StrikerFirmani
6250
WishIdStayedInThe Pub
6232
wwaddick
6013
HardyAddick
5950
CAFCsayer
5948
Salad
5897
oohaahmortimer
5750
Gary Poole
5450
5000
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Daarrzzetbum said:
Gents proposal, as it’s the season of goodwill, due to all this C19, tiers & Brexit Trade Deal malarkey, can this be deferred for 4 weeks, nothing to do at all with my 6750 prediction, honestly 😳🤥🤥RaplhMilne said:
Brought forward for those interested.Rob7Lee said:bobmunro
7395
Mronelung
7200
gunnessaddick
6969
LargeAddick
6899
Huskaris
6825
meldrew66
6789
Daarrrzzettbum
6750
Covered End
6700
golfaddick
6666
CharltonKerry
6649
PragueAddick
6450
Rob7Lee
6420
RalphMilne
6397
Exiledin Manchester
6320
happy valley
6299
blackpool72
6255
StrikerFirmani
6250
WishIdStayedInThe Pub
6232
wwaddick
6013
HardyAddick
5950
CAFCsayer
5948
Salad
5897
oohaahmortimer
5750
Gary Poole
5450
5000
A deal with the EU (no EU deals get done until the last minute anyway so anything before then isn’t a ‘no deal’ it’s a negotiation process leading to the inevitable compromise), the French and others back down on the own goal of a UK blockade and approval for the Oxford Astra Zeneca Covid vaccine and your 6,750 prediction won’t look too shabby.1 -
I agree its far from over.
Now then, what time does the LSE actually close on 31st, anyone know?0 -
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Usually 12.30 or 1pm.PragueAddick said:I agree its far from over.
Now then, what time does the LSE actually close on 31st, anyone know?1 -
Everything to play for.
Covid Mutation, Brexit, Santa Rally, Buy the Rumour Sell the Fact Stimulus ... could go anywhere.0 -
Well, this is exciting...6,442. Edging down, while tech laden indices move up.
If it stays around this level then the eventual winner will be very close indeed to the actual closing figure as several of us are bunched around 6400-6500.
If the LSE closes lunchtime on NYE, I should be able to get the results up failry sharpish and someone can break out more bubbly in the evening0 -
Not that I'm clutching at straws (!) but the 55d ma is moving up about 9 points a day at the moment. If the FTSE drops that will be a resistance point and will be sitting around 6235 at the time ....
I think it could still be anywhere in the 6000-6600 range.1 -
You wot?WishIdStayedinthePub said:Not that I'm clutching at straws (!) but the 55d ma is moving up about 9 points a day at the moment. If the FTSE drops that will be a resistance point and will be sitting around 6235 at the time ....
I think it could still be anywhere in the 6000-6600 range.
Sounds like something off the crypto thread
Can you enlighten a mug punter? 0 -
I still think it can make it to 6600-6700.
More in hope than expectation though I must say.0 -
55 day moving average. Usually a way of showing where the market has been over a set period of time (in this case 55 days) and averaging out the highs & lows to give a basic trend. I think @WishIdStayedinthePub was saying (in modern day parlance) that the FTSE is trending upwards at around 9 points per day & so should end the year around 6500.PragueAddick said:
You wot?WishIdStayedinthePub said:Not that I'm clutching at straws (!) but the 55d ma is moving up about 9 points a day at the moment. If the FTSE drops that will be a resistance point and will be sitting around 6235 at the time ....
I think it could still be anywhere in the 6000-6600 range.
Sounds like something off the crypto thread Can you enlighten a mug punter?
The only problem is that it really doesn't take into account major factors such as a trade deal being agreed (or not), borders being closed or Covid mutating into a even nastier bugger.1 -
Fair cop, @PragueAddick!
The '55 day moving average' is one of a few that people track. There will often be resistance or support in that area depending if you are coming from below or above respectively.
Happy to bore you with others (the 200 day is the one that I think is relevant for investors and is currently tilting upwards just above 6000) - let me know.
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Be very interesting to see where FTSE finishes up tomorrow, loads of rumours circulating that a deal has been Brokered, although a normally quiet half day Crimbo Eve, a BREXIT deal will lead to a lively 3-4 hours on the markets. Currently 6496.
Seasonal regards all.0 -
Not quite. The 55 day moving average is trending up 9 points a day. As it is likely to be an area of support (in this case), if the price drops, it may not move through it immediately and may hold in that area or bounce from there. It's a long shot but just trying to work out how I could win :-)golfaddick said:
55 day moving average. Usually a way of showing where the market has been over a set period of time (in this case 55 days) and averaging out the highs & lows to give a basic trend. I think @WishIdStayedinthePub was saying (in modern day parlance) that the FTSE is trending upwards at around 9 points per day & so should end the year around 6500.PragueAddick said:
You wot?WishIdStayedinthePub said:Not that I'm clutching at straws (!) but the 55d ma is moving up about 9 points a day at the moment. If the FTSE drops that will be a resistance point and will be sitting around 6235 at the time ....
I think it could still be anywhere in the 6000-6600 range.
Sounds like something off the crypto thread Can you enlighten a mug punter?
The only problem is that it really doesn't take into account major factors such as a trade deal being agreed (or not), borders being closed or Covid mutating into a even nastier bugger.
There is still a huge range of 6-6600 that it could end up in, given all the factors involved. I don't think this evening's news will be the end of the volatility either!0 -
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Daarrzzetbum said:Be very interesting to see where FTSE finishes up tomorrow, loads of rumours circulating that a deal has been Brokered, although a normally quiet half day Crimbo Eve, a BREXIT deal will lead to a lively 3-4 hours on the markets. Currently 6496.
Seasonal regards all.Enough for a 850 point rise in the FTSE?Asking for a friend.6 -
Woke up to the news on the BBC that European market futures are 'surging'. FTSE 100 currently at 6503. Nah, that's not a 'surge'. I'm afraid that's it, punters. That's yer Brexit Bounce.
Never mind. I was just looking back on the Excel of your forecasts. The median prediction across 27 punters was 6320. Right now it looks to me like the CL S&I thread is gonna show up a few experts..
If you held decent investments this year, you have to be thankful. And if you and yours are healthy, even more so. Wish you all a very nice Christmas.4 -
And to you Richard. It's certainly going to be close in the final table.PragueAddick said:Woke up to the news on the BBC that European market futures are 'surging'. FTSE 100 currently at 6503. Nah, that's not a 'surge'. I'm afraid that's it, punters. That's yer Brexit Bounce.
Never mind. I was just looking back on the Excel of your forecasts. The median prediction across 27 punters was 6320. Right now it looks to me like the CL S&I thread is gonna show up a few experts..
If you held decent investments this year, you have to be thankful. And if you and yours are healthy, even more so. Wish you all a very nice Christmas.
Assume the is like the price is right where you can't go a penny over
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I still think there's some doubt around this deal which is holding back the surge. The pound strengthening doesn't help, so you may see it more in the 250. Add in US markets' end of year surge, window dressing and start of month cash flows and I think there's plenty to come. But any wobble in sentiment and 6232 is still on!PragueAddick said:Woke up to the news on the BBC that European market futures are 'surging'. FTSE 100 currently at 6503. Nah, that's not a 'surge'. I'm afraid that's it, punters. That's yer Brexit Bounce.
Never mind. I was just looking back on the Excel of your forecasts. The median prediction across 27 punters was 6320. Right now it looks to me like the CL S&I thread is gonna show up a few experts..
If you held decent investments this year, you have to be thankful. And if you and yours are healthy, even more so. Wish you all a very nice Christmas.
Have a good, if quiet, break everyone and thanks for organising this 'competition' again, @PragueAddick!2 -
I agree, the FTSE100 would "surge" more on a no deal. The FTSE250 or Allshare is your friend if there is a good trade deal.
FWIW. FTSE100 closed today at 12.30pm so same again on the 31st I would think. Now sitting at 6502. My 6666 is looking good if there are no major disasters over the next week.1 -
Just calculating the gain on my SIPP this year. Sadly I didn't record a value for Jan 1st but have statements for Nov 2019 & early Feb this year.
Up 21.3% since Feb 4th & up 27.4% since Nov 2019. Not bad in a pandemic where worldwide economies have shut down & Governments have been borrowing billions.
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Thats a really good return, but this year more than most it does depend on the date you go from, if I take my tax year statement i'm up about 36% since April, think it's more like yours from turn of the year, i.e. nearly 25% I think.golfaddick said:Just calculating the gain on my SIPP this year. Sadly I didn't record a value for Jan 1st but have statements for Nov 2019 & early Feb this year.
Up 21.3% since Feb 4th & up 27.4% since Nov 2019. Not bad in a pandemic where worldwide economies have shut down & Governments have been borrowing billions.
Overall it's been a good investment year, i'm even above the FTSE level on those dodgy structured products I got sold 1 -
I factored in an expected rise between Xmas and New Year, when many people are hoping for a good new year.
So I was hoping for around 6500/6600 on Xmas eve for a 6700 finish. It's still possible as the market closed before the Brexit deal was announced.0 -
My SIPP is up about 12% from 1st Feb which considering the circumstances I’m very happy about. It’s also worth remembering that some of us may have a lower risk appetite than others and so gains might not be so great.0
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Nor losses when they happen! 12% is still a very good return.LargeAddick said:My SIPP is up about 12% from 1st Feb which considering the circumstances I’m very happy about. It’s also worth remembering that some of us may have a lower risk appetite than others and so gains might not be so great.0
