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Post Match Thread: Hull City v Charlton | Sat 02 Jan 2021
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I'm not blaming Gilbey for today, just seen less of him than many of you - has Gilbey had any good games for us? I never see him making tackles or passes so don't get his role.3
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That was awful, following on from awful, following on from average or awful. I fear for Bowyer as if all we can muster is two signings this window, added to this group, I reckon we are mid-table at best.
Nobody is really showing what they are capable of. They are just less than the sum of its parts. Bowyer is not getting enough from this group of players. Could another manager do better, maybe not but mediocre is not in Thomas plans.
No wins from the next 3-4 games will see Thomas making a change, mark my words. Sort it out Lee I want you to reach Curbs status!!2 -
That must be the worst performance that I've seen under Bowyer. After one good half against Wimbledon we've got worse every game. And up to that half wasn't a lot better. Why did we play well in that half? Better shape and an attacking line-up.The lineup was wrong, the shape was poor, players were out of position again. The only part of the game when we looked decent were the first 15 minutes of the second half with the shape change and players in more natural positions. Then Pratley stupidly gets sent off and that was that.Piss poor today, and that's being generous.3
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Precisely.stevexreeve said:Bowyer will have to go soon. I don't like the idea but I don't see any other way forward.
It's impossible to imagine Sangaard spending money on decent players if they are going to be organised like that.0 -
Bowyer out, Curbs in please Thomas.0
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Joe Piggot, Schwartz and pacy CH please......get Bogle out....Morgan needs to go on loan and get Maddison on the pitch0
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Some real perspective needed here. We are on a bad run certainly and we have to halt that but we are in sixth position. That’s a playoff place. Time for LB to earn his corn and change things around and for the better. I think he’ll do both. When the going gets tough and all that. Not many tougher than Lee Bowyer.9
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Amos
Matthews Pearce Deji Maatsen
Watson
Morgan JFC
Maddison Williams
Washington
Set up with that or something like it and I think the outcome would have been different.15 -
Yes very noticeable I thought a complete blankTalal said:Possibly reading too much into this but Gunter was very quick to walk off past Bowyer, head down. Seemed like he was more pissed off than with just the result.0 - Sponsored links:
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We were really poor against Wimbledon in the first half and only came to life in second after putting on our best playersmattinfinland said:I've never had an issue with bowyer but I'm going to start the fire here
Time for a change. I don't know who we bring it but the past two months we've been really poor AFC aside.
I don't think he's entirely got the dressing room either.1 -
Interview with Bowyer on now ...
"Disappointed"
"Carried too many players today ..."6 -
Didn't watch the second half but can imagine how bad it was based in the comments,
I can forgive an experimental lineup/formation if the players look like they have been coached in what they should be doing and put the expected effort in, our players look like they don't have a clue what's being asked of them.
We have enough senior players that surely one of them would turn around and say to Bowyer or Jackson it's not working and play us in our natural positions.3 -
Im glad i paid the £10,not for the steaming pile of turd on the pitch but to listen to Curbs. Love hearing his thoughts and knowledge of the game.nelsonsleftfoot said:Curbs talking sense is shining a light on Bowyer's muddled thinking.3 -
Same. As soon as I saw it, I knew we would lose.Danny Addick said:I was about to buy the live stream when I saw the team0 -
I do wonder whether this season will be much alikeThe Prince-e-Paul said:That was awful, following on from awful, following on from average or awful. I fear for Bowyer as if all we can muster is two signings this window, added to this group, I reckon we are mid-table at best.
Nobody is really showing what they are capable of. They are just less than the sum of its parts. Bowyer is not getting enough from this group of players. Could another manager do better, maybe not but mediocre is not in Thomas plans.
No wins from the next 3-4 games will see Thomas making a change, mark my words. Sort it out Lee I want you to reach Curbs status!!
go Powell’s first half season in charge.
New manager in jan,pick up a decent striker in jan (yes, I’m linking Schwartz to BWP) and rebuild properly in the summer!Not at all what we want or need, but it may be necessary0 -
Bowyer now on the stream
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Bowyer on VP now:
”disappointed. We had a lot of possession. Didn’t create enough.”
”we carried too many players today. Can’t do that against a good side like Hull.”
”we knew there weaknesses but didn’t do enough.”
”Pratley sent off, and that was game over”.
”We didn’t have that something that drops your way. All you can do is keep working.”
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Oh my god...Bowyer take some fuckin blame will ya man...3
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Bowyer being interviewed now.
unfortunately Minto daren't ask the questions we would all like an answer to.3 - Sponsored links:
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Tattoos and odd coloured boots I reckon.FishCostaFortune said:Why has Maddison, who has frankly, looked like the only player going to make something happen alongside Aneke - played about 30 minutes the last 3 games2 -
Did I hear him say we were the better side? Fucking hell.4
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"Pratley let us down ... it was stupid ... we were on top ... "6
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So is J Block's source back to being believed?2
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Utterly, utterly depressing.
Can see no end to this rubbish remotely in sight.
Signings in Jan are never going to change it enough for us to take something from this season.
SOMETHING has to change & quickly.
Just as well there'll be no fans at The Valley for the upcoming matches.
Is Bow having a mid life crisis ?
Far too many questions & seemingly no constructive answers....
PLEASE sort it out Thomas before it becomes even more embarrassing.
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It is until we win the next gameDazzler21 said:So is J Block's source back to being believed?0 -
Bowyer on VP continued:“1-0 you’ve always got a change, Pratley has let us down”
”Both goals they hit us on the break.”
”Disappointing we’ve lost Pratley for 3 games”
“We’ve only got Oshilaja left, so he’ll get his chance now”6 -
Bowyer played a right back at left back; a left back at right mid; a centre mid at centre half who then got sent off for falling for the bait and kicking out (he's 35 for god's sake); Omar Bogle; left our most creative midfielder/s on the bench; and set us up with no creativity whatsoever.
My mood has shifted over the last month and I want to see a fresh approach, be that with or without Bowyer.
In the short term, it is a simple fix. Play a normal formation with players in the right positions. Dominate lesser teams: Amos; Matthews; Pearce; Deji; Maatsen, then a midfield of JFC; Morgan; Williams; and Maddison; Schwartz/Aneke and Washington up top. Impose our will on a team and just brief the defenders to twat the ball miles away from our final third and that will be that.
We are desperately short of positivity right now.27
