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Post Match Thread: Hull City v Charlton | Sat 02 Jan 2021
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I'd hate to see him set up a game to hold out for a draw then.Oggy Red said:
Before the game Lee Bowyer said: “We’ll approach the game trying to win it".
But with that starting line up, you didn't try to win it, did you Lee?6 -
Fuck off Bowyer.stoneroses19 said:Bowyer on VP continued:“1-0 you’ve always got a change, Pratley has let us down”
”Both goals they hit us on the break.”
”Disappointing we’ve lost Pratley for 3 games”
“We’ve only got Oshilaja left, so he’ll get his chance now”
They hit us on the break? That's like the number one way to score. Higher possession is pointless when we're not winning.0 -
An absolute crock of shit - it is no good setting up defensively if you haven't got any f*cking defenders. Surely you mitigate injuries to key defenders by keeping the opposition busy at the other end.This is a pub league, make no mistake about that - but I'm still not sure we have the means to rise above it. It is either an inspired transfer window needed or a complete rethink.How to ruin a Saturday!19
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Agree, a very wierd comment FA. Nothing unusual with fans, when we have been conceding 2 goals a game, calling for a natural CB to be played in that position - especially when the bloke who is playing their instead of him has hardly been tearing up trees.Talal said:ForeverAddickted said:Who takes the blame if Oshilaja fucks up?
I wonder if any fans will ever put their hand up and admit they're wrong if he costs us... HAHA!!
Sorry mate but this is a bit weird. Oshilaja isn't good enough but he's a centre back so should play ahead of a centre midfielder, that's it. He most probably will fuck up.
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The point is even that group aren’t very good!MuttleyCAFC said:Amos
Matthews Pearce Deji Maatsen
Watson
Morgan JFC
Maddison Williams
Washington
Set up with that or something like it and I think the outcome would have been different.Watson and Pratley out though should improve things.2 -
Huge injuries to our permanent defence a big reason, you can’t say majority recent games is due to poor selection and tactics. A defence that knows each other is worth gold in this division.BigRedEvil said:2 wins out of 10 now and the majority of them results are due to Bowyers poor team selection/tactics and decision making.
I'll say it now as things are Bowyer is not going to get us promoted be it this season or next3 -
Our players are better than their recent performances. 10 points from 9 games. It is pathetic.
With Pratley suspended we at least now have the chance to play a back 4 all in their correct positions but I suspect we won't.
Just an awful performance, no tactics, no plan, no confidence.
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I’m not calling for Bowyer to go, but if he doesn’t stop publicly blaming the players and start taking responsibility for his decisions, he’s going to lose the dressing room, the supporters and the owner.
It appears he’s well on his way to losing the first two already judging by some of the comments on here.11 -
If your reading this TS, we are not playing good attacking football, in fact it’s piss poor. Please either tell LB to sort it out or please replace him.
Over to you.2 -
I was hoping for a 3rd at the end as that was my prediction in the preview thread.shine166 said:2-0 9/1, that's tonight's food paid for0 - Sponsored links:
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Lee Bowyer picking out players on stream. Not happy with Prately. Deji now going to get his chance apparently. Disappointed with Bogle miss.Too many players out of position. Playing Bogle upfront with no pace or creativity in midfield was flawed. Persisting wiht Prately at centre back was was another. This has not being working for weeks. Then at the start of the 2nd half having corrected some of the players out of position, Prately gets sent off in a lame sending off and that that's the end of it. Terrible performance all round.I love Lee Bowyer for what he has done for the club, but I really don't understand what he is trying to achieve. Lee Bowyer expects a lot from his players (and crowd), he needs to hold himself to account for the dismal team set ups.8
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Think Bow is in trouble,
When asked what he was going to do in midweek to prepare for the Accrington game he replied with "much of the same"2 -
Our 1st choice centre halfs are both out.stoneroses19 said:
Huge injuries to our permanent defence a huge reason, you can’t say majority recent games is due to poor selection and tactics. A defence that knows each other is worth gold in this division.BigRedEvil said:2 wins out of 10 now and the majority of them results are due to Bowyers poor team selection/tactics and decision making.
I'll say it now as things are Bowyer is not going to get us promoted be it this season or next
Bowyer's solution to that is to play about 5 players in the wrong position.
Keep it simple Lee
Right back at right back
Left back at left back etc.
You never know it might work.13 -
Astonished that the majority of Charlton Life seem to want Bowyer out ... fortunately it would appear that Thomas does not agree with you.8
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Can’t wait for quest tonight!1
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I imagine some (at least) of the players are fed up with Bowyer playing people out of position & constantly tinkering & dropping players who have just had a great game in the last match. I wonder what Jacko & Gallen make of it. No one wants Bowyer sacked but does anyone seriously think he's going to be here long term making these sort of decisions.Blucher said:That is the sort of team selection and performance that gets managers the sack. Starting with four players out of position was not a smart play and Bowyer’s predilection for playing one-paced, one-dimensional midfielders was only ever realistically going to have one outcome.
We were a shambles at the back and slow and predictable in midfield. As well as omitting one of our few flair players, Maddison, Bowyer compounded matters by taking off Albie Morgan, who was, in my view, probably our best performer on the day.
We created next to nothing and poor old Bogle turned in one of the worst 45 minutes I’ve ever seen from a professional footballer. Josh Davison could certainly not do worse.
Pratley’s red card put the tin hat on a dismal afternoon and we gave Hull - who had lost 3 games on the bounce and were forced into 5 changes following a Covid outbreak - probably their most comfortable afternoon of the season. A truly atrocious performance.
There are certainly very real questions about Lee Bowyer’s position. His stubbornness is leading him down a rabbit hole and he is demonstrably not getting the best out of this group of players.
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I 100% agree with this to some extent. We would be looking a lot more solid if we had Innis and Famewo at the back - which would then conversely mean we would look better up the pitch as well.stoneroses19 said:
Huge injuries to our permanent defence a big reason, you can’t say majority recent games is due to poor selection and tactics. A defence that knows each other is worth gold in this division.BigRedEvil said:2 wins out of 10 now and the majority of them results are due to Bowyers poor team selection/tactics and decision making.
I'll say it now as things are Bowyer is not going to get us promoted be it this season or next
Indeed I'd go as far to say as if they were both fit, we probably wouldnt see Matthews at left back.
However, I still don't think we would play good consistent football, and we would still not dominate teams. We never really have under Bowyer - but that does not matter so much when your winning.1 -
Zero experience of playing professional football, but it must destroy players confidence like Purrington & Deji when they can’t into the side and manager prefers to play players out of position instead of players in their correct positions.12
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Yetstonemuse said:Astonished that the majority of Charlton Life seem to want Bowyer out ... fortunately it would appear that Thomas does not agree with you.1 - Sponsored links:
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blackpool72 said:
Our 1st choice centre halfs are both out.stoneroses19 said:
Huge injuries to our permanent defence a huge reason, you can’t say majority recent games is due to poor selection and tactics. A defence that knows each other is worth gold in this division.BigRedEvil said:2 wins out of 10 now and the majority of them results are due to Bowyers poor team selection/tactics and decision making.
I'll say it now as things are Bowyer is not going to get us promoted be it this season or next
Bowyer's solution to that is to play about 5 players in the wrong position.
Keep it simple Lee
Right back at right back
Left back at left back etc.
You never know it might work.
I never had you down as a revolutionary, Blackpool!!
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Another waste of a tenner! Bogle slower than a 3 legged carthorse, makes Mike Small look a decent player (older Addicks will know what I mean). Bogle and Washington must be the worst 2 strikers we've had for years and I go back to 1960. Did their keeper have one save to make. Smyth kept falling over and no control. Only positive comment I can make is that Matthews played better in the second half in his correct position. Pratley sending off pure stupidity, Hull player putting him away to the linesman. At least without Watson and Pratley we may have a stronger team. Players maybe except Amos and Williams should hang their heads in shame!2
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To be honest this is utter Bollocks.BigRedEvil said:2 wins out of 10 now and the majority of them results are due to Bowyers poor team selection/tactics and decision making.
I'll say it now as things are Bowyer is not going to get us promoted be it this season or next
If our injured players had been fit for the last 6 games we would be top 2 a fact and LB would be still popular amongst the Charlton Sceptical dept.
my only concern is why do we get so many injuries at critical times? Is our coaching dept missing something.
over to you Thomas because we need assistance till
our winning squad returns to it original magnificent
form 👍👍👍2 -
There is ZERO loyalty in the sport anymore... We were pissed with Grant and will be with Doughty if he leavesstonemuse said:Astonished that the majority of Charlton Life seem to want Bowyer out ... fortunately it would appear that Thomas does not agree with you.
Bowyer if he's sacked will go back to his fishing, same he'd have happily have done in the summer when ESI were at the height of their nuisance
Supporters wont think for a second that they've shown very little patience on the other hand themselves6 -
I saw those games and I know others thought he did ok but looked pretty woeful to me. Since the injury, he’s played the same - woeful.Dazzler21 said:
Start of the season pre injury he was decent enough.RedPanda said:I'm not blaming Gilbey for today, just seen less of him than many of you - has Gilbey had any good games for us? I never see him making tackles or passes so don't get his role.0 -
Too true, should get Piers Morgan in to ask the real questions that we want the answers to.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
He's got to. That is one problem with a club broadcast service. It can''t be too critical.stoneroses19 said:Curbs agrees with Bowyer comments.Bloody hell some of you ain’t going to like that.0 -
Is it really astonishing? We could overlook the relegation because of off the pitch circumstances. But the performances lately have been diabolical, the team selections non-sensical, the excuses getting really rather boring.stonemuse said:Astonished that the majority of Charlton Life seem to want Bowyer out ... fortunately it would appear that Thomas does not agree with you.
Bowyer can criticise the players- but he's the one who signed them. If you keep playing players out of position, why are you surprised when they don't look good? If you don't play Maddison who'd been playing really well, why are you surprised when we look inept going forward?
Our form is fast approaching that of relegation contenders- we're setting up to draw games over and over, and then Bowyer seems surprised when we do not win them.3 -
Pratley let us down,Bowyer struggling to prove he isn't just a mid table div 1 manager,we was dismal today
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Two poor goals says Lee?
They could’ve scored 6. We maybe could’ve had 1 at best.5
