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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    James86 said:
    Not a rumour for us, but we were previously linked with him. My friend, who’s work colleague is good friends with Sorba Thomas, he has supposedly  agreed a 3 year deal with Huddersfield. £2500 P/W for a fee of £200K. One for the future is to be loaned back out to a lower league team. Bradford was mentioned. Not seen nothing on the internet about it 🤷 no harm in passing on what I’ve heard. 
    It wouldn’t surprise me if that transfer happened but I’d be shocked if Sorba Thomas’s mates have been blurting out what he’s supposedly earning for the alleged deal. 

    Hopefully just a rumour and we can get him ourselves 
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
  • James86
    James86 Posts: 329
    ElliotCAFC said:
    James86 said:
    Not a rumour for us, but we were previously linked with him. My friend, who’s work colleague is good friends with Sorba Thomas, he has supposedly  agreed a 3 year deal with Huddersfield. £2500 P/W for a fee of £200K. One for the future is to be loaned back out to a lower league team. Bradford was mentioned. Not seen nothing on the internet about it 🤷 no harm in passing on what I’ve heard. 
    It wouldn’t surprise me if that transfer happened but I’d be shocked if Sorba Thomas’s mates have been blurting out what he’s supposedly earning for the alleged deal. 

    Hopefully just a rumour and we can get him ourselves 
    I did think that. Talk of Huddersfield buying him a house and Sorba having a % of the transfer fee or something along those lines. We’ll see. I don’t disbelieve my friend. He doesn’t even support Charlton. He only mentioned it as he knew we were linked or Charlton were brought up in conversation with his colleague. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,358
    Fee of 200k, wasn't they looking for 7 figures minimum? I don't see him going for that price 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    Braziliance said:
    Fee of 200k, wasn't they looking for 7 figures minimum? I don't see him going for that price 
    Depends if there are add ons. 200k might just be the upfront fee.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Ashley Naesdean? Another one I think that's come through non league. 
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Like you said no harm in posting what you’ve heard, that’s the idea of the thread but when weird details like his weekly pay, getting a house etc are added it starts to feel like someone is trying to hard with their ‘rumour’. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Braziliance said:
    Fee of 200k, wasn't they looking for 7 figures minimum? I don't see him going for that price 
    I don't think it was 7 figures but it was more than we were prepared to go. I thought we offered around that figure (sure it was quoted on here at the time) and had the feeling they wanted double. I call bullshit on the "rumour" - can't see him going up to Huddersfield. 
  • James86
    James86 Posts: 329
    cafc_harry said:
    Like you said no harm in posting what you’ve heard, that’s the idea of the thread but when weird details like his weekly pay, getting a house etc are added it starts to feel like someone is trying to hard with their ‘rumour’. 
    Like I say only posted what I was told. I’ve nothing to try and prove about getting a rumour right or even wrong for that matter 🤣
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited January 2021
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    MarcusH26 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Ashley Naesdean? Another one I think that's come through non league. 
    Used to play for Fleetwood, pretty sure he scored against us once. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Jack Powell stood out for me. Excellent deliveries from corners and free kicks. I kept thinking when will we have somebody that can do that.
    He was let go by Millwall 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    RedRobin said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Ashley Naesdean? Another one I think that's come through non league. 
    Used to play for Fleetwood, pretty sure he scored against us once. 
    Played in this game, only time he's faced us


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    ForeverAddickted said:
    RedRobin said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Ashley Naesdean? Another one I think that's come through non league. 
    Used to play for Fleetwood, pretty sure he scored against us once. 
    Played in this game, only time he's faced us


    Reeco as the lone forward  :#
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited January 2021
    killerandflash said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    RedRobin said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Ashley Naesdean? Another one I think that's come through non league. 
    Used to play for Fleetwood, pretty sure he scored against us once. 
    Played in this game, only time he's faced us


    Reeco as the lone forward  :#
    Yeh he showed so much promise the previous week @ Peterborough

    Probably his one decent game for us
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    ForeverAddickted said:
    killerandflash said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    RedRobin said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Ashley Naesdean? Another one I think that's come through non league. 
    Used to play for Fleetwood, pretty sure he scored against us once. 
    Played in this game, only time he's faced us


    Reeco as the lone forward  :#
    Yeh he showed so much promise the previous week @ Peterborough

    Probably his one decent game for us
    Scored on his debut at the weekend for Southend
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    eaststandmike said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    killerandflash said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    RedRobin said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    DA9 said:
    Crawley midfielder Matthews looked handy yesterday, box to box style 
    I thought the striker looked good too, not Watters the other tall, quick one. They played really well.
    Ashley Naesdean? Another one I think that's come through non league. 
    Used to play for Fleetwood, pretty sure he scored against us once. 
    Played in this game, only time he's faced us


    Reeco as the lone forward  :#
    Yeh he showed so much promise the previous week @ Peterborough

    Probably his one decent game for us
    Scored on his debut at the weekend for Southend
    2 years more experienced AND for the bottom side in L2, not a team chasing promotion in L1...
  • SamE7
    SamE7 Posts: 276
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Well a loan fee isn't paid to the player & is very much like a transfer fee so I doubt very much it is included in the figures. Whether the portion of the players wages that the other club is paying is, but I doubt that either because that was really the only way we could have brought in loans last season under the embargo. 


  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited January 2021
    golfaddick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Well a loan fee isn't paid to the player & is very much like a transfer fee so I doubt very much it is included in the figures. Whether the portion of the players wages that the other club is paying is, but I doubt that either because that was really the only way we could have brought in loans last season under the embargo. 


    This.
    Loan fees do count against FFP limits but the salary cap is not part of FFP. It is an agreement within the league.
  • cafcforever
    cafcforever Posts: 215
    edited January 2021
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Sorry if I am being thick, but what are image rights payments we might make?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    cafcforever said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Sorry if I am being thick, but what are image rights payments we might make?
    Appearing in the 2021 Calendar  :D
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,265
    cafcforever said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Sorry if I am being thick, but what are image rights payments we might make?
    It's to stop us paying players extra outside of their wage for things like using their likeness in a game or an advert campaign. 

    "Hey come and play for us and we'll put your pic up in the new kit and give you 100k image rights"
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cafcforever said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Sorry if I am being thick, but what are image rights payments we might make?
    Loads of clubs, including lower league ones, have been using image rights as a tax avoidance method. 

    I believe that there was a league 1 player paid £800 a week and £5000 a month for his "image rights".  The club never once used his image in any promotions, merchandise etc. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    cafcforever said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Sorry if I am being thick, but what are image rights payments we might make?
    Bowyer has offered Bogle £5,000 if he can look like a professional footballer
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    NapaAddick said:
    golfaddick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SamE7 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Loan fees are not included in salary cap right? So we could loan a decent player for £1m up front and the loaning club could agree that we pay 0% of their salary... 
    Loan fees are included, for that exact reason. 99% sure

    The cap includes the following

    • basic wages
    • taxes
    • bonuses
    • image rights
    • agents’ fees and
    • other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to players
    Not sure if 'Other fees and expenses' covers it as they're not paid directly or indirectly to the players. 
    Well a loan fee isn't paid to the player & is very much like a transfer fee so I doubt very much it is included in the figures. Whether the portion of the players wages that the other club is paying is, but I doubt that either because that was really the only way we could have brought in loans last season under the embargo. 


    This.
    Loan fees do count against FFP limits but the salary cap is not part of FFP. It is an agreement within the league.
    FFP doesn't exist in League 1, the cap replaced SCMP, which was the League 1 version of FFP.
  • LonelyNorthernAddick
    LonelyNorthernAddick Posts: 2,423
    Nearly half way through the transfer window what would people target now? We've got our pacey winger and finisher, and after last nights sending off (although it would only be a 1 game ban) do we need to target a new CB in case of future injuries? Or a battling midfielder like Bowyer has voiced his desire for.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited January 2021
    LonelyNorthernAddick said:
    Nearly half way through the transfer window what would people target now? We've got our pacey winger and finisher, and after last nights sending off (although it would only be a 1 game ban) do we need to target a new CB in case of future injuries? Or a battling midfielder like Bowyer has voiced his desire for.
    Centre-Back as thats an area we just cant get much consistency at the moment

    And if they're out there a Josh Cullen type Midfielder who can carry the ball and has the bite of Pratley / Watson so a younger version of Shinnie effectively

    Feel those two areas are the ones hurting us the most at the present

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