Post Match Thread: Charlton Athletic v Rochdale | Tues 12 January 2021

Decent comeback but now Chuck's had played 90 minutes I don't expect to see him play Saturday, JFC pretty good again, Albie did well but God knows what the defence will look like next game!!

I am pissed I missed the second half of the match thread, can’t be arsed to read it now but I bet it was fun. 

Mixed emotions after that. Really pleased with the way we fought back in the 2nd half.

Truly believe Bowyer would've been a goner had we gone on to lose after that 1st half display, maybe still will 

Ronnie definitely limping after his interview on VP, looked in difficulty

So we can create and score goals, so why dont we concentrate on that rather than what the other teams do from now on. 5 at the back at home to Rochdale ffs

My initial thoughts.......

Can't set up wing backs who are not primarily a defender. We have 2 very good right backs & either one of Gunter or Matthews could play right wing back....esp against a team near the bottom of the table. The game was lost (or not won) in the first 25 mins once they sussed out Smyth can't defend.

Felt that Chuks should have been subbed with 15 mins to go. He seemed tired & although he did well for his last chance I wonder if a fresh legged player would have buried it. Nothing against Chuks & he was one of the better players, but he looked leggy at the end.

As for the rest of the team - not a lot needs to change apart from Morgan should play instead of Gilbey. Get the 2 big centre halves back & a top 8 finish is still possible. No way will be finish top 2 & play-offs are less than 50/50 imo. Look at the table. Teams above us have played 1,2 even 3 games less than us. Once everyone had played roughly the same we will be 4-6 points off the pace.

More later.

Scoham said:

Watching Schwartz on Valley Pass he’s come over on his own, his girlfriend isn’t allowed to join him due to the Covid situation.

Worrying to see him limp away after the interview

ForeverAddickted said:

Saturdays defence is certainly going to look interesting...

Even when we brought it back to 4-4 we showed how much we need to have that enforcer type player in Midfield as whilst Forster-Caskey and Morgan did extremely well that second half there were still periods where a team (in relegation form) waltzed through them.

Still dont think Bowyer should go, we saw second half how he's not lost the dressing room. BUT mistakes like putting Smyth at RWB he has to take responsibility for - Yes I get it that we've got issues with the likes of our injury list but dont shoot yourself in the foot when you dont need to

It'll be

Matthews - Gunter - Oshilaja - Maatsen

Not sure if this is as bad as Newcastle giving Sheffield United it's first win today, but it's right there in terms of shocking.

ForeverAddickted said:

Southbank said:

So , next Saturday, Inniss, Famewo, Pratley, Watson, Pearce, Maddison, Doughty, Shinnie all out. 6 of them at least would be in our first team, so until these injuries are fixed or alternatives signed, hard to see us not struggling further.
Smyth playing rwb was a wrong call  but the squad weakness is hard to overcome.
Team this Sat:
Amos
Matthews, Gunter, Oshilaja, Maatsen
Millar JFC, Morgan, Williams
Aneke, Washington
Subs MB, Purrington, Barker, Schwarz, Shinnie/Gilbey, Smyth, Bogle

If Aneke starts on Saturday I'll be amazed!!

Yup, surely he’ll be on the next Saturday. 

What is wrong with Aneke? Chuks looked fit enough for the 90 plus minutes to me.

thickandthin63 said:

As expected Bowyer getting stick,but he has been poxed every way he turns.
1)Pratley or Watson plays we do not let those goals in,both out
2)Both first choice cb out
3)Shinnie out
4)And now pearce out next game

I will judge him when he has a full squad to pick from,lets be fair tonight,those Rochdale strikes where pretty special and unusual at this level.

Most managers have to go through the football season with injury to key players, it's why you have squads and its how they react to these challenges and change things up where they really earn their bacon.

So far Bowyer has changed formation and personnel every game and made some rather baffling decisions. Look at how we played 2nd half, if you praise him for getting that reaction and that performance (which I do) then he deserves every bit of criticism for that first half performance as well. 

Bowyer VP interview:

”Disappointed. We’re at home against lower half team.”
”I look at the positives, after Friday and losing by 2 at half time today. They showed fire. Didn’t crumble. Give the players a lot of credit”
”should have won it at the end. disappointed with the point, but everything they hit first half went in.”