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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • cubes
    cubes Posts: 8
    edited January 2021
  • Redrobo said:
    Any transfer rumours?
    No.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    iaitch said:
    David Davies anyone? Just been released by Birmingham. No didn't think so.
    Gone Shrewsbury anyway
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    edited January 2021
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Harry Beadle is the next off the conveyor belt - trust me, he's taken a while to come to the boil but he is gonna be the next one into the first team and he will be a fans favourite - the boy is a 100%er and along with his brother James in goal, will be the backbone of our team for years to come - COYR!!!!!
    So... one year on the first team doing well and then we sell him for 1/2 of what we should and no sell-on clause? Or do we let him leave on a free? :#

    Them boys live and breathe Charlton, they won't be going anywhere 
    Money talks though. I assume from what you've posted that they're fans of the club but if they make it as pro's then it's also a job, so if a big club came in for them they'd surely go. Wayne Rooney lived and breathed Everton.................until Man Utd came calling.
    its not only what they would want that you have to consider, its what the club would want as well but i think they would be at the club for a good few years and do things the right way - i.e learn their trade / the game and love playing for the club they and their family have always supported - all their mates in the stands etc etc rather than jumping at the first chance  
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    CafcSCP said:


    So we couldn't match Huddersfield based on the salary cap, even tho he wont count to the salary cap this season, basically Bowyer is ruling out promotion and is preparing for life in League 1 next season under salary cap rules

    Youd have senior players that are really pissed.
    Sorry to dig you out, mate ...... but in English pissed means drunk, wankered, half-cut, three sheets to the wind, right?
    It doesn't mean pissed off.

    Why all the spoof yoof Bronx Americanese when there's English slang that everybody understands?

    What next, you blokes calling your arse your fanny ..... ?


  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Oggy Red said:
    CafcSCP said:


    So we couldn't match Huddersfield based on the salary cap, even tho he wont count to the salary cap this season, basically Bowyer is ruling out promotion and is preparing for life in League 1 next season under salary cap rules

    Youd have senior players that are really pissed.
    Sorry to dig you out, mate ...... but in English pissed means drunk, wankered, half-cut, three sheets to the wind, right?
    It doesn't mean pissed off.

    Why all the spoof yoof Bronx Americanese when there's English slang that everybody understands?

    What next, you blokes calling your arse your fanny ..... ?


    You’ve literally just summed me up in a few words.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    We organise the squad so that we have fewest senior players on the highest money in the league.

    We might have to have just three or four senior players for every six or seven youngsters, but we'd have the best of each category in the league.

    Contracts would have to be cleverly done so that each year only a certain number of younger players become senior, and each year you have to sell off this number, bringing in the equivalent of the best younger players in L1&2 to replace them.
    This seems to be what Lincoln City have tried to do this season.



  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    iaitch said:
    David Davies anyone? Just been released by Birmingham. No didn't think so.
    Would rather shit in my hands and clap...
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    995632 said:
    Probably a stupid question but how visible is each clubs wage cap situation? Do other clubs have access to that information or is it just the EFL that knows how much leeway everyone's got?

    Would doubt the internal financial workings of a club is common knowledge, think its rather a case of "Sorry, we can't afford to pay his £15k per week. We've only got enough left for £25 a week and a Happy Meal, can you help us please?" 
    Ok so it's not like the transparent American cap system then. I suspect people will be quite shocked by how low some clubs have managed to get the wage bill by bluffing players and loaning clubs further up the pyramid. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.

    Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in. 

    It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term. 
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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.

    Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in. 

    It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term. 
    I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Redrobo said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.

    Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in. 

    It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term. 
    I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.
    This this will turn out to be standard operating procedure for league 1 if the cap continues. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Redrobo said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.

    Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in. 

    It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term. 
    I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.
    Have we?

    I think if you look at the 23+ range we have lost a lot of players that would be the core of a half decent championship side.

    I think it maybe the rest of other factors at play. If you look at the current u23s there are a lot of "external" players then quite a gap to Henry and Barker. 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Doubtful but would love to get Sam Field back. Guess it depends how many big Sam gets to sign this month. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Doubtful but would love to get Sam Field back. Guess it depends how many big Sam gets to sign this month. 
    Be very surprised if he dropped to League 1. 
  • I’m guessing an attacking midfielder but no idea who 
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,699
    Doubtful but would love to get Sam Field back. Guess it depends how many big Sam gets to sign this month. 
    Really liked him for us and no doubt would make a big difference but we wouldn’t be able to afford him on loan and he wouldn’t drop to league 1
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    I’m guessing an attacking midfielder but no idea who 
    I think Bows already said he wants more a Cullen type midfielder.
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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Redrobo said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.

    Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in. 

    It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term. 
    I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.
    Have we?

    I think if you look at the 23+ range we have lost a lot of players that would be the core of a half decent championship side.

    I think it maybe the rest of other factors at play. If you look at the current u23s there are a lot of "external" players then quite a gap to Henry and Barker. 
    Our academy has actually produced relatively few players in the last 2 or 3 years really, in comparison to some other periods when Charlton have relied on U23s

    Morgan and Doughty, but nobody else really knocking on the door in terms of outfield players in the 19-22 year old  age group other than perhaps Vennings. No centre backs or strikers who could have done a job during our recent injury problems, indeed it's quite unusual to see a Charlton side with NO home grown defenders at all, when you consider the number who have come through down the years
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Redrobo said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.

    Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in. 

    It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term. 
    I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.
    Have we?

    I think if you look at the 23+ range we have lost a lot of players that would be the core of a half decent championship side.

    I think it maybe the rest of other factors at play. If you look at the current u23s there are a lot of "external" players then quite a gap to Henry and Barker. 
    Our academy has actually produced relatively few players in the last 2 or 3 years really, in comparison to some other periods when Charlton have relied on U23s

    Morgan and Doughty, but nobody else really knocking on the door in terms of outfield players in the 19-22 year old  age group other than perhaps Vennings. No centre backs or strikers who could have done a job during our recent injury problems, indeed it's quite unusual to see a Charlton side with NO home grown defenders at all, when you consider the number who have come through down the years
    Thing is we would have had Gomez, konsa and grant as players in that bracket (not sure we can count lookman?) so they are coming through but we have just cashed in on them!
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    DOUCHER said: 
    if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow 
    Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    DOUCHER said: 
    if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow 
    Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful. 
    If Innis isn’t back for a while we would not have cover right hand side? 

    That said I think he is looking for a mobile defensive midfielder. 
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    David Davis returning to The Valley!

    When we host Shrewsbury Town!
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,263
    Basically we need another Bielik, someone equally strong at defensive midfield and centre back, an upgrade on Pratley essentially
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Redrobo said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.

    Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in. 

    It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term. 
    I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.
    Have we?

    I think if you look at the 23+ range we have lost a lot of players that would be the core of a half decent championship side.

    I think it maybe the rest of other factors at play. If you look at the current u23s there are a lot of "external" players then quite a gap to Henry and Barker. 
    Our academy has actually produced relatively few players in the last 2 or 3 years really, in comparison to some other periods when Charlton have relied on U23s

    Morgan and Doughty, but nobody else really knocking on the door in terms of outfield players in the 19-22 year old  age group other than perhaps Vennings. No centre backs or strikers who could have done a job during our recent injury problems, indeed it's quite unusual to see a Charlton side with NO home grown defenders at all, when you consider the number who have come through down the years
    Thing is we would have had Gomez, konsa and grant as players in that bracket (not sure we can count lookman?) so they are coming through but we have just cashed in on them!
    They're all 23 now so to me are "senior" players 

    There does seem a gap in our academy further down, it's really unusual for example that we have no 20 year old defenders ready to come through, a reserve RB ready to step up so that we didn't need to sign Gunter AND Matthews
  • Just watched Rangers v Motherwell and the style of player who would benefit us most is someone like Steven Davis.
    He attacks, defends always available for a pass, always seems to be in space, makes chances, never panics, a fantastic all round midfielder.
    Obviously not Davis but somebody of that ilk , at our current level, would make all the difference. 
    I couldn't give you any names but I'm sure people on here could come up with some. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,228
    Someone like Josh Cullen.