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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)
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Depends if Preston are happy to pick up his wages in full now compared to what other clubs are happy to do over their playerskillerandflash said:I'm confused what our position actually is on the cap if we can afford to bring in yet another striker0 -
Guess it depends if Bristol Rovers can pick up Bogle's wages - No point loaning him out if a club cant take his salary off our handsMattF said:2 -
Although if loaning him out means he's not in our squad doesn't that mean he's no longer in our salary cap, whether we're still paying his wages or not?ForeverAddickted said:
Guess it depends if Bristol Rovers can pick up Bogle's wages - No point loaning him out if a club cant take his salary off our handsMattF said:0 -
I'm surprised people are surprised. Bogle does not look like adding to his 2 goals in 17 games. If he had taken the air swipes, 5 yard out dinks, 1on1s, then I dont think we would have been looking. But we will not challenge for playoffs or games with our 2nd big man likely to score 4 goals.
A big man who knows the league and can take 1 from 2/3 chances in the box needed.2 -
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I'd presume not as Shinnie is an example of how different loans can have different wage structuresMattF said:
Although if loaning him out means he's not in our squad doesn't that mean he's no longer in our salary cap, whether we're still paying his wages or not?ForeverAddickted said:
Guess it depends if Bristol Rovers can pick up Bogle's wages - No point loaning him out if a club cant take his salary off our handsMattF said:0 -
I'm assuming you have not seen us play when Aneke hasn't been on the pitch.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.
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I'm a genuine upgrade on Bogle regarding frequency of scoring.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.6 - Sponsored links:
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But as people have been saying. Scoring isn't too much of an issue. Us playing better is. Defending doesn't start at defence. It starts upfront with the ability to hold the ball further up the pitch. This is why a player in the mould of Stockley is so important in helping us play further forward.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.5 -
Stockley played well against us last season from what i can remember but would have thought a centre back would be in order rather than another striker.0
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Exactly. We need to reduce the pressure on our defenders. Ideally we don't want them to have the ball at all given the current kamikaze strategy they've got going on, so Stockley can offer a lot more than goals if he has us playing the game higher up the pitch. Plus, if we're holding on to a one goal lead late in a match then clearances sticking up top when they get made makes a huge difference.RC_CAFC said:
But as people have been saying. Scoring isn't too much of an issue. Us playing better is. Defending doesn't start at defence. It starts upfront with the ability to hold the ball further up the pitch. This is why a player in the mould of Stockley is so important in helping us play further forward.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.
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Not to mention helping out in our box defending late game set pieces, Yann was massive for that.Garrymanilow said:
Exactly. We need to reduce the pressure on our defenders. Ideally we don't want them to have the ball at all given the current kamikaze strategy they've got going on, so Stockley can offer a lot more than goals if he has us playing the game higher up the pitch. Plus, if we're holding on to a one goal lead late in a match then clearances sticking up top when they get made makes a huge difference.RC_CAFC said:
But as people have been saying. Scoring isn't too much of an issue. Us playing better is. Defending doesn't start at defence. It starts upfront with the ability to hold the ball further up the pitch. This is why a player in the mould of Stockley is so important in helping us play further forward.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.2 -
In January you sign targets as and when you can. You simply can’t do it in the order of priority. TS, SG and the rest of the management team are not stupid. They know who we want and I hope they get them.jacob_CAFC said:Stockley played well against us last season from what i can remember but would have thought a centre back would be in order rather than another striker.5 -
Definitely Smyth but Bogle and Chucks pass the height test 😉.Chunes said:I'm bemused by the idea of us signing another striker. If he turns out to be the same level as Bogle/Washington/Smyth then it will be a complete waste when we're struggling in other areas. I can only assume he's head and shoulders above what we have already.
ps I’d be interested to know Joe Hart’s opinion on this as well 😆.0 -
Exactly. It’s why people shouldn’t rely solely on stats when it comes to a striker. Think about what he brings to the team and the way we play. If he’s winning free kicks and keeping possession in the oppositions half then it cuts down the likelihood of Pearce making a mistake.RC_CAFC said:
But as people have been saying. Scoring isn't too much of an issue. Us playing better is. Defending doesn't start at defence. It starts upfront with the ability to hold the ball further up the pitch. This is why a player in the mould of Stockley is so important in helping us play further forward.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.7 -
Having a player like Stockley will improve our chances of going up. The current crop won’t get us up I don’t think, relying on Chuks who can break down at any moment is risky, Bogle isn’t up to it and Ronnie isn’t fit to start right now. So I can see the reasons why we’ve gone for Stockley.2
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I like Stockley we must be confident of shipping someone out in order to make this happen within the cap though?0
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Doughty will be gone.
At the start of the window Bowyer said we still had a little bit to play with and since then Levitt has gone back and Doughty will be leaving.0 - Sponsored links:
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I don't get the logic of we don't need a striker at all. We have Chuks who is very good but can only manage 60 minutes and is highly likely to get another injury before the end of the season. Ronnie who we're hoping does very well but has not played in England before and we can't be sure he will. Washington who is a decent third choice striker but isn't the main man to get us promoted and Bogle who's been poor in almost every game this season.
I'd happily bring in Stockley, his record with Exeter is very good. I think the Championship was a step too far for him but he's certainly good enough in league 1.12 -
Doughty is too young to count in the cap, ditto LevittBelv said:Doughty will be gone.
At the start of the window Bowyer said we still had a little bit to play with and since then Levitt has gone back and Doughty will be leaving.
We've brought in Schwartz who must be on a reasonable wage though1 -
I see your point however, Stockley is a very good signing and in this league his is the exact kind of striker I would want us to have. I remember last season when Preston beat us 0-1 at home and he won the penalty. That game sticks out to me as I remember he bullied our entire team.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.He would be our best striker with Aneke. I like the others (don’t know enough about Ronnie) Washington is ok and bogle would need to move on which I think he would.
But with that in mind, I am amazed we still have not signed a centre back. As much as I like Stockley and pleased with the signing it really won’t make a difference if we are refusing to bring in a CB and sort that mess out.He could score a hatty on his debut and we would loose 4-3.
So this is a weird one for me, I’m very happy with signing him but same time frustrated we are not moving in on defenders.0 -
It's clear we aren't getting players in the order that we might need them, but we've listed 2/3 positions down and they might come in a different order,3
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Surely we are going to have to move one or two on? Not sure how we can afford Stockley. That's 6 loans so you wouldn't expect us to sign a 7th, even if they are U21. Just can't see who we could move on, Bogle and Williams only two and not sure either are that realistic.0
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So nothing to announce as yet.0
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Just like a foosball tableChris_from_Sidcup said:
Perhaps Bowyer has been inspired by Ossie Ardiles spell as Spurs manager and will now be rolling out a new 3-2-5 formation.Scoham said:
We’re having to loan players that won’t cost us much at all, maybe nothing. I assume Bowyer wants experienced players over u21s so it may just be down to what’s available.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Although Stockley is a good player, i'm not quite sure why we're putting so much focus on signing another striker when our problems are at the back.
In this window we'll have signed Millar, Schwartz and now potentially Stockley..........all whilst conceding an average of 2 goals per game in recent weeks.
If Stockley is able to hold up the ball and complete in the air with some consistency then that’s something we don’t really have in the squad that can also make a huge difference. If he can do that role while also being a goal threat then even better.0 -
I'm sure TS, Ged and Gallen have assessed what they can afford or not. I find it bemusing when fans without anything more than guesswork act like they know the exact financial situations of a club and legal remit they are working within.30
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We do know what legal remit the club is working within. Fair point on them obviously knowing a lot more than us, but it's not entire guesswork, Bows has repeatedly referred to the cap.mendonca said:I'm sure TS, Ged and Gallen have assessed what they can afford or not. I find it bemusing when fans without anything more than guesswork act like they know the exact financial situations of a club and legal remit they are working within.
I don't see why it's bemusing to discuss it. We are probably looking to sign two more and personally I think we'll definitely have to offload to get them in.0 -
OK, put it another way. Could the EFL do anything to us because Luton, not us, paid up Shinnie's contract?J BLOCK said:
That's not how the new rules work, otherwise all the bigger teams in League one would be doing this to get round the salary cap.Cafc43v3r said:
Yeah but say he is on 10k a week, of which we are paying him 2k of. (these numbers are totally made up and are probably more than he is on).CAFCsayer said:
It would surprise me, Luton currently paying 80% of his wagesCovered_End_Lad said:Wouldnt surprise me if we made Shinnie permanent to free up another loan spot
He has about 5 months, or 20 week left on his contract. So 200ks worth of "wages left".
If we paid Luton 150k for him and they gave him a £120k golden hand shake we could sign him for 1k a week for the rest of the season and neither Luton or him are out of pocket. Roughly.0
