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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)
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How would that work as a transfer though? What are we paying Luton for if they paid up his contract?Cafc43v3r said:
OK, put it another way. Could the EFL do anything to us because Luton, not us, paid up Shinnie's contract?J BLOCK said:
That's not how the new rules work, otherwise all the bigger teams in League one would be doing this to get round the salary cap.Cafc43v3r said:
Yeah but say he is on 10k a week, of which we are paying him 2k of. (these numbers are totally made up and are probably more than he is on).CAFCsayer said:
It would surprise me, Luton currently paying 80% of his wagesCovered_End_Lad said:Wouldnt surprise me if we made Shinnie permanent to free up another loan spot
He has about 5 months, or 20 week left on his contract. So 200ks worth of "wages left".
If we paid Luton 150k for him and they gave him a £120k golden hand shake we could sign him for 1k a week for the rest of the season and neither Luton or him are out of pocket. Roughly.
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I very much doubt it.Cafc43v3r said:
OK, put it another way. Could the EFL do anything to us because Luton, not us, paid up Shinnie's contract?J BLOCK said:
That's not how the new rules work, otherwise all the bigger teams in League one would be doing this to get round the salary cap.Cafc43v3r said:
Yeah but say he is on 10k a week, of which we are paying him 2k of. (these numbers are totally made up and are probably more than he is on).CAFCsayer said:
It would surprise me, Luton currently paying 80% of his wagesCovered_End_Lad said:Wouldnt surprise me if we made Shinnie permanent to free up another loan spot
He has about 5 months, or 20 week left on his contract. So 200ks worth of "wages left".
If we paid Luton 150k for him and they gave him a £120k golden hand shake we could sign him for 1k a week for the rest of the season and neither Luton or him are out of pocket. Roughly.
I have suggested a couple of times, Loan fees are not included in salary caps so pay a big wedge up front to be able to get better loanees in on zero salary deals...
I'm guessing as an example a £100k loan fee where we pay the salary of say £5k a week for a 10k a week player, might become a £500k loan fee in order to grease palms and cover salary.1 -
5 minutes and counting Tommy.
You know Lee will include it in his post match whine
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Midday deadline passed2
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True but check the goal record of big Bogleaddick1956 said:9 goals in 64 at Preston....not exactly ripping up trees there. Only high return appears to be at Exeter.
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Doughty has joined Stoke
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/600ab516a9d83/alfie-doughty-completes-permanent-transfer-to-stoke-city
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We may be one of the higher scorers in the division but our strikers are dysfunctional.
Schwartz needs chances to be effective. Someone who can hold up the ball is critical to bringing wingers into the game and thus supplying quality deliveries. Stockley can hold it up. Chuks can hold it up.
Washington is a waspish striker but isn't going to bully League 1 defenders. Sometimes we need someone to shithouse the opponent and he can do that but sometimes we need to bully and that's just not him.
Smyth...I am not entirely sure what Smyth is as he is not a striker or a forward (or a wing back). He's not got a trick and poses absolutely nothing physically. I wouldn't be too disheartened to see him return to his parent club on present output
Bogle has all the size you'd expect from a target man but has none of the strength, power or ball control. It simply isn't working with us at the moment and I would see Stockley as his replacement.
Chucks has all the attributes we need in a striker with the exception of the fitness.
As I see it Stockley offers some of the best bits of Chuks with the added benefit of improved fitness and maybe mobility too. I hope we get hm and it works out.8 - Sponsored links:
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I don't get that we missed the deadline for "somebody" to play on Tuesday but still no announcement that "somebody" has now signed.
"Somebody" could have been announced on Tuesday afternoon/evening and maybe that would have given the whole club a boost.
I appreciate that as long as "somebody" is signed, paperwork completed, by midday the announcement could be made at any time for that "somebody" to be available for Saturday.
Maybe LB is waiting for the club shop to get a scarfy delivery.0 -
I’m probably an upgrade on Bogle and I’m fucking useless.Belv said:
I'm a genuine upgrade on Bogle regarding frequency of scoring.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.7 -
He will hold the ball up, pressure defenders into mistakes, win free kicks and throw ins in the opposition half.addick1956 said:I am surprised that anyone thinks that Stockley will be a genuine upgrade on what we have regarding frequency of scoring, unless they think Aneke is getting too much playing time for his own good.
Otherwise the real problem is CB cover really.
Against Swindon and Shrewsbury, would they have scored if we had someone up top holding the ball up and keeping possession rather than it keep coming back into our box.
this signing (if it happens) suggests that we are singing a player we want, where the early summer signings we to fill gaps on a limited esi budget0 -
Millwall Scum.ForeverAddickted said:16 -
You forgot the traditional Charlton mid-season injury crisis in 2018/19 ........ which hit us hard that winter.Cafc43v3r said:J BLOCK said:
No it’s very simple.cafcfan1990 said:
It’s not. It’s your opinion. Easy saying Grant and Taylor are superb in hindsight, not many would have been saying that in July 2018. Plus I’m talking about depth, not just the starting duo.J BLOCK said:
The argument wasn’t about partnerships or minutes played, the argument was players.Cafc43v3r said:
No obviously that is equally ludicrous.J BLOCK said:
But calling Shwartz and Stockley superb when they haven't played 90 minutes in a Charlton shirt between them is correct .....Cafc43v3r said:
But they only played half a season together. Grant was only a 1st team player for us for 5 months. It's not like we were running away with the league when Grant left.J BLOCK said:
Stockley - 9 goals in 60 odd gamescafcfan1990 said:
I think it would be. Schwartz early days but he’s a finisher. Stockley is a great target man at this level. Aneke been fantastic and Washington chips in. How many teams have 4 strikers as good as those?J BLOCK said:
It wouldn't be ‘superb’ but any striker force where bogle isn’t playing is a huge uplift.cafcfan1990 said:Stockley, Aneke, Schwartz and Washington competing for two spots would be superb. Can’t see how we can afford him unless we are able to move Bogle on though.
Shwartz - Unknown at this level
Aneke - Great player, can't do 90 mins. Let alone two/three games in a week
Washington - Is ok
It isn't 'Superb'. Taylor and Grant in League One is Superb.
Its like "5 games Innis", it's like Hunt and Mendonca, these mythical partnerships that only exist in people's fantasies.
People will be banging on about Di Canio and Bent soon.
But we have some other incredibly mythical partnerships, Innis and Famewo, Grant and Taylor are the two that get banded about on almost a daily basis.
Grant and Taylor played about 15 games together, Innis and Famewo 5. It's not significantly more than that games that than Stockley and Schwartz or Bent and Di Canio have/will/did is it.
It’s simple. Grant and Taylor are superb players to have in league one. Our current crop are not.In fairness, superb might have been a slight exaggeration. I still think those four are outstanding depth. If you disagree, tell me which teams in this division have 3rd/4th choice strikers better than two of the above.I think someone like Washington would be a lot better alongside Stockley too.
Of the 3 strikers who are Charlton players and you are saying are superb, what have they shown you to warrant this title? Chucks yes but again he hasn’t got the fitness so IMO he isn’t superb for this league. Adding Shockley doesn’t just change the front 3 to superb players.
Grant and Taylor have done it and are a superb players for league 1.
It's easy to judge the "class of 18/19" with hindsight, because they got promoted. If they were that fucking good why did it take they play offs, a penalty shoot out and a injury time winner to go up?
We should have gone up as champions with over 100 points, the way everyone now bigs them up.
It wasn't until players came back from injury, that we got our winning run together.
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Doughty can go in the ‘fuck him’ bin24
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From a news management/spinning point of view, I'd be amazed if there wasn't someone coming in today to offset the bad new of Doughty leaving.3
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Just saw an article about Ben Thompson getting a lack of game time @ Millwall with Portsmouth interested on loan
He probably wouldnt join us given his Millwall links but would be perfect for us at this level0 -
ForeverAddickted said:Just saw an article about Ben Thompson getting a lack of game time @ Millwall with Portsmouth interested on loan
He probably wouldnt join us given his Millwall links but would be perfect for us at this level
Guy I work with is very good mates with Thompson and said he definitely wouldn't sign for us!
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Richard Murray would have announced a special 'strategic partnership' with Stoke that meant we would be getting their best young players on loankillerandflash said:From a news management/spinning point of view, I'd be amazed if there wasn't someone coming in today to offset the bad new of Doughty leaving.4 -
Wanker........... Not you Crispy or your mate 😉.Crispy said:ForeverAddickted said:Just saw an article about Ben Thompson getting a lack of game time @ Millwall with Portsmouth interested on loan
He probably wouldnt join us given his Millwall links but would be perfect for us at this level
Guy I work with is very good mates with Thompson and said he definitely wouldn't sign for us!2 -
No. He's different. Different qualities. Could bring some of the things the team are lacking over the full 90 minutes.Chunes said:I'm bemused by the idea of us signing another striker. If he turns out to be the same level as Bogle/Washington/Smyth then it will be a complete waste when we're struggling in other areas. I can only assume he's head and shoulders above what we have already.
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Yeah I dont blame him, he's a local lad so fully understands the rivalryCrispy said:ForeverAddickted said:Just saw an article about Ben Thompson getting a lack of game time @ Millwall with Portsmouth interested on loan
He probably wouldnt join us given his Millwall links but would be perfect for us at this level
Guy I work with is very good mates with Thompson and said he definitely wouldn't sign for us!0 -
Fitness, skill, height, ability to tackle and shoot, you mean....Oggy Red said:
No. He's different. Different qualities. Could bring some of the things the team are lacking over the full 90 minutes.Chunes said:I'm bemused by the idea of us signing another striker. If he turns out to be the same level as Bogle/Washington/Smyth then it will be a complete waste when we're struggling in other areas. I can only assume he's head and shoulders above what we have already.0 -
The window will be shut in 10 days time.killerandflash said:I'm confused what our position actually is on the cap if we can afford to bring in yet another striker
Expect a couple of players to be moved on/loaned out if necessary.
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Stockley would be another big unit to defend set pieces in our box.jacob_CAFC said:Stockley played well against us last season from what i can remember but would have thought a centre back would be in order rather than another striker.
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..and we all know how that turns out, especially in the last few minutes of injury time.Oggy Red said:
Stockley would be another big unit to defend set pieces in our box.jacob_CAFC said:Stockley played well against us last season from what i can remember but would have thought a centre back would be in order rather than another striker.0 -
Makes sense. Trying to source a piano for the reveal video can't be easy during lockdownMattF said:5 -
Play Bogle at CH. No chance of an own goal 😉10
