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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • Exactly a flair player is someone who is skillful with the ball

    Gallagher and Aribo were perfect examples of players who could run with it, pass or shoot

    The difference being is those two could do it with consistent results at the right end whilst also putting in a shit at the other

    Maddison | Fosu | Williams have all thought they're too high and mighty to do the dirty work, doesnt wash down here
    That’s a massive disservice to Williams, he’s never shied away from doing the dirty work and he’s certainly not the sort of person who thinks of himself as high and mighty. 

    He’s always been a model professional who does his best. He may have avoided jumping into tackles at some stages due to fear of injury, but even that’s changed under Bowyer. He’s regularly hassled and harried opponents despite his lack of strength, our goal against Brentford at home last season typified that. 

    Marcus Maddison is on the other end of the spectrum. 
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    The point is, we couldn't replace Williams with somebody in Williams' bracket due to the cap. Apart from the fact we have little time to. 

    I know this sounds harsh, but I put Charlton above Williams' Euro place. Whatever you think of him, you have to accept that we might need him and replacing him at this time doesn't make sense.
  • MattF said:
    Who doesn't love a random twitter rumour

    Remember there was links to Miguel Azeez in the summer but he's an out and out CM. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Remember there was links to Miguel Azeez in the summer but he's an out and out CM. 
    Which is a position we need
  • mart77 said:
    Which is a position we need
    Oh definitely, just wondering with us on 5 loans already who would miss out? Arsenal are going to want whoever it is to be a regular.
  • The point is, we couldn't replace Williams with somebody in Williams' bracket due to the cap. Apart from the fact we have little time to. 

    I know this sounds harsh, but I put Charlton above Williams' Euro place. Whatever you think of him, you have to accept that we might need him and replacing him at this time doesn't make sense.
    Depends who the replacement is.
  • The point is, we couldn't replace Williams with somebody in Williams' bracket due to the cap. Apart from the fact we have little time to. 

    I know this sounds harsh, but I put Charlton above Williams' Euro place. Whatever you think of him, you have to accept that we might need him and replacing him at this time doesn't make sense.
    But why? What does he actually bring? This is the central dilemma of Williams. He's clearly got talent but the numbers just aren't there. There's very little in the way of goals or assists.
  • Well, I might say to McCarthy, We are not the Cardiff City benevolent society. If you want him, how can you help us get promoted in return?
  • RC_CAFC said:
    So you are saying that his salary counts approx £2,500 a week (the average if you divide the cap total with the number of players allowed) to us but anything over that isn’t included as his salary was sorted before the cap came in?

    Genuinely asking as I still don’t think I have this fully worked out what does and doesn’t count in my head.
    That’s my understanding.
  • MattF said:
    Who doesn't love a random twitter rumour

    Not giving much away then lol
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  • edited January 2021
    CafcSCP said:
    That’s my understanding.
    It's wrong. Any player that was here prior to the cap initiation will be averaged at £1,700 this season. The league average salary at the point of calculation of the cap. 

  • The bottom line is they are counted as being significantly cheaper than they are and the reason for this is to stop clubs falling foul of the cap due to existing contracts they can't do anything about. 
  • RedRobin said:
    Not giving much away then lol
    Sounds like Arsenal are recalling a young centre back Zech Medley on loan to Gillingham as he hasn't been getting in the team....

  • If Williams goes we will sign Shinnie on a free on a 6 month contract.  

    1 loan, 1 under 21 perm. 
  • Southbank said:
    Our standards have slipped so much that we think it is normal and acceptable to have key players who cannot last 90m, like Aneke, Maddison  and Williams. It is not normal and you can't expect promotion with half fit players. We have got used to it because of the crap owners, time to move on. 
    Or we have a manager who can't abide to keep flair players on the field for that long? Maddison played almost 90m against Wimbledon. People seem to have made up their minds about him though.
  • We bid for a Prem U23 winger on Friday (I know for a fact, but it didn’t happen. 
    Looks like JW will be gone Monday. 

    Who was it
  • RedRobin said:
    Not giving much away then lol
    Matt Smith, as I previously said.
  • Shrew said:
    Sounds like Arsenal are recalling a young centre back Zech Medley on loan to Gillingham as he hasn't been getting in the team....

    They recalled him a couple of weeks ago and he looks like a very decent prospect tbf.  Whether he is what we are looking for remains to be seen but he is certainly not a bad player
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Williams goes we will sign Shinnie on a free on a 6 month contract.  

    1 loan, 1 under 21 perm. 
    Why would we do this... Luton are paying 80% of his wages. 
  • Swisdom said:
    They recalled him a couple of weeks ago and he looks like a very decent prospect tbf.  Whether he is what we are looking for remains to be seen but he is certainly not a bad player
    He was recalled from Gillingham because he couldn't get in their team and he is good enough for us? 
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  • CAFCsayer said:
    Why would we do this... Luton are paying 80% of his wages. 
    Because we can get another loan in and Bowyer wont have to worry about leaving a sixth loan signing out of the team each week
  • CAFCsayer said:
    Why would we do this... Luton are paying 80% of his wages. 
    If they agree to pay him what they are paying anyway, it frees up a spot for another loan 
  • If they agree to pay him what they are paying anyway, it frees up a spot for another loan 
    If this is possible under the rules of the cap then great, I was under the impression it wasnt
  • It's an absolute must that we bring in a decent CB, and now we need a winger of JW's calibre (tough under the cap imo) too. 
  • Side note... Josh McEachran been released, worth a punt until end of the season? 
  • edited January 2021
    We haven't let Williams go yet. Surely we act in our interests.
  • What time does the window shut tomorrow

    Is it a 5pm or 11pm one 
  • You can blame players around him for his lack of goal contributions but when you see Purrington has twice as many goals in 20 less games I think your argument goes out the window.
    Not really. My argument was that using goals/assists as the only metric to judge a player is too simplistic. 

    Because Ben Purrington might have scored a couple more tap-ins than Jonny Williams doesn’t mean he has been a better or more effective player for us. 

    We know Williams has the ability - but it seems completely nullified in the way Bowyer has had us playing in the last few months. 
  • What time does the window shut tomorrow

    Is it a 5pm or 11pm one 
    11pm
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    He was recalled from Gillingham because he couldn't get in their team and he is good enough for us? 
    Did I say he was good enough for us?  He has some potential but I have questioned if someone of his age and inexperience fits the bill
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