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How far away from top two

Next season?.

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    46 games 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,778
    Depends who it is. Quiet far if it's Sunderland or Plymouth for example. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,675
    How long is a piece of string  ?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,805
    13 points. We actually did very well to not lose many games during 20/21 but too many drawn games cost us.

    Sunderland fewest defeats with 9, joint second with 11: Hull & Peterborough, joint fourth with 12: Blackpool & Charlton.

    We only won 20 games across a season of 46. Ideally for top two we need to win a minimum of 25 games.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Until we know the re-vamped squad who knows. With the current one I cannot see us getting anywhere near the top two much like this season. The new signings will be key. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,805
    edited May 2021
    Of the fifteen teams that won 25 or more games over the last six full seasons, thirteen were promoted (86%) and eleven finished top two (73%).

    Of the ten teams that won 26 or more games over the last six full seasons, all ten were promoted (100%) and nine finished top two (90%).



    2020/21:
    Hull: 27 wins (promoted)
    Peterborough: 26 wins (promoted)

    2018/19:
    Luton: 27 wins (promoted)
    Barnsley: 26 wins (promoted)
    Charlton: 26 wins (promoted via play-offs)
    Portsmouth: 25 wins (lost play-off semi final to Sunderland (22 wins))

    2017/18:
    Wigan: 29 wins (promoted)
    Blackburn: 28 wins (promoted)
    Shrewsbury: 25 wins (lost playoff final to Rotherham (24 wins))

    2016/17:
    Sheffield Utd: 30 wins (promoted)
    Bolton: 25 wins (promoted)

    2015/16:
    Burton: 25 wins (promoted)

    2014/15:
    Bristol City: 29 wins (promoted)
    MK Dons: 27 wins (promoted)
    Preston: 25 wins (promoted via playoffs)
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    No distance as we'll be top two next season.

    NARAWA
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,342
    Next season?.
    Miles from second. Level on points, goal difference and goals scored with first. 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,828
    Next season?.
    ask again when the summer transfer window shuts
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,913
    If it happens to be Sunderland & Plymouth then it's quite a bit 😂

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Depends. If we are top then no distance...if we are 3rd then 1 place. 4th = 2 places. That should make it easier to work out. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited May 2021
    How long is a piece of string  ?
    It depends on how long the piece of String is. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,257
    Apart from Hull & P’boro this league had some poor teams (we were right in that bracket as well).  I’m not sure if the quality of the league will remain more or less the same, but we need a fair few faces in if we are going to be challenging top 2 next season 
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    cabbles said:
    Apart from Hull & P’boro this league had some poor teams (we were right in that bracket as well).  I’m not sure if the quality of the league will remain more or less the same, but we need a fair few faces in if we are going to be challenging top 2 next season 

    Top 2 needs to be the aim but realistically top 6 and I'd still be happy.

    For once I'm looking forward to a transfer window. Can't remember the last time I enjoyed one. Been so long worrying about losing our decent players and just praying we can bring in enough bodies to field a team.
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Good answers.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,675
    I will also add, after watching the Fulham match this evening, TS had better realise that it will take a shit load of money to get into the Premiership......ans then a shit load more to stay there.

    Lookman
    Cordova-Reid
    Mitrovic
    Loftus-Cheek
    Maja

    And that's just some of the players that couldn't keep Fulham up with 3 games to go.

    Ok, most of those might have been on loan, but their wages arent cheap. 

    It will take at least 2 summer rebuilds to get anywhere near top 6 of the Championship. Will be interesting to see who we sign this summer. 


  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,257
    I will also add, after watching the Fulham match this evening, TS had better realise that it will take a shit load of money to get into the Premiership......ans then a shit load more to stay there.

    Lookman
    Cordova-Reid
    Mitrovic
    Loftus-Cheek
    Maja

    And that's just some of the players that couldn't keep Fulham up with 3 games to go.

    Ok, most of those might have been on loan, but their wages arent cheap. 

    It will take at least 2 summer rebuilds to get anywhere near top 6 of the Championship. Will be interesting to see who we sign this summer. 


    If we ever got that high again, Burnley are the club to model ourselves on.  A lot of clubs in the lower half of the prem are living well beyond their means.  Bournemouth were another.  15,000 max stadium, kept spending £25m on Liverpool youth rejects every season.  Football needs a reset 
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    I will also add, after watching the Fulham match this evening, TS had better realise that it will take a shit load of money to get into the Premiership......ans then a shit load more to stay there.

    Lookman
    Cordova-Reid
    Mitrovic
    Loftus-Cheek
    Maja

    And that's just some of the players that couldn't keep Fulham up with 3 games to go.

    Ok, most of those might have been on loan, but their wages arent cheap. 

    It will take at least 2 summer rebuilds to get anywhere near top 6 of the Championship. Will be interesting to see who we sign this summer. 


    Barnsley!

    I suspect that L1 will be a lot harder than this season. Three good teams coming down, plus the transfer cap lifted.
    Ipswich, Pompey and Sunderland will all be in the mix.

    We missed a really good opportunity to go up this season.
  • Top 2 - maybe
    Top 6 - good chance
    Below Top 6 - maybe
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that we will finish in the top 2 next season.
    We have stability in ownership.
    A knowledgeable manager and good backroom staff.
    We do need to invest in players but I'm sure a plan is already in place.