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Sheff Weds Decision 12 points Next season

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    If any players on high wages leave and they have no/little transfer value.
    I should imagine Sheff W may not be that unhappy (possibly).
    If they can't afford the wages they can't.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    The decision by Darren Moore to move to Wednesday is looking a bit questionable...
  • Valleyfan2
    Valleyfan2 Posts: 224
    Well if nothing else that should rule them out as one of our promotion contenders next season! 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    What with whippet mange rampant in them there parts as well, it does not bode well!
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    It looks like Weds could do with a good CEO  :)
  • JohnnyJoeyDeeDee
    JohnnyJoeyDeeDee Posts: 1,040
    Looking forward to our unveiling of new signing Barry Bannan video with Karma Chameleon as background music
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    I’m not the biggest Sheffield Wednesday fan nor do I like their supporters however I’d never wish this onto another club. If they go bust it’ll be lesson to clubs that live above their means and gamble with a clubs future in the hope of making it to the prem. I do hope they survive, it’ll be a huge loss not only for the football league but their community as well. This could have easily been us last year, think we tend to forget that. 
  • AndyG said:
    If they are not paying players wages surely that means they must be under a transfer embargo 
    They are.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    I've got to be honest, I have fairly limited sympathy for anyone involved. None whatsoever for the owners who made this happen but a lot of the fans seem to think they're too big to fail, and that they should get away with it because of "history."

    Wrong on both counts.
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  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,952
    Have to feel for the supporters,as always,like us,they are the innocent party in all this,and are powerless to watch their club implode chasing impossible dreams.They must have players earning totally unrealistic wages,those players and the people who agreed those wages must have known the situation,so no sympathy there.I hope they stay in business,but a drop to div.2 might just be the wake up call lower football needs,I cannot help but feel this is the tip of the iceberg.Even at top level,how can mediocre players,like De Gea,Aubamyang,warrant wages of £300k a week plus,someone has to have the balls to say no.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Sheffield Wednesday are in deep shit.

    Their players haven’t been paid for two months, and if they are not paid within the next 14 days the players can terminate their contracts and walk away.

    Also it is believed that they are under a transfer embargo.

    So if the players do leave they would struggle to even field a team at the start of the season.

    The fans are owed money from last years season tickets, and basically Wednesday are skint.  They haven’t got a pot to piss in.

    The cheating bastards are getting their just desserts.
    The fans are still owed money from the unused part of their 2019/20 STs.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    OwlsTalk is making some interesting reading.

    Massive bill on the new lease for the stadium due in September and Chansiri told all the players if they got relegated, then their salaries would be halved and if they don't like it they can leave.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    The owner might well be hoping the high earners do leave but I don't think they are going to walk away from lucrative deals unless they have other contracts at another club lined up.

    And rightly so.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    massive
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    If clubs have been horrendously mismanaged, it's right that they are punished and drop down the leagues.

    However I would never want ANY club to go out of business
  • Even if they weren't under an embargo, who exactly is going to sign for a club who are facing administration, a points deduction and haven't paid their players for 2-3 months?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Even if they weren't under an embargo, who exactly is going to sign for a club who are facing administration, a points deduction and haven't paid their players for 2-3 months?
    I reckon that those set of circumstances could tempt Old Bows to turn the clock back as player/coach! 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    edited June 2021
    I don't want Sheff W to go bust.
    But I'd quite like them to be be fighting relegation from L2 for 10 years, or get relegated to non league. 
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2021
    Addickted said:
    OwlsTalk is making some interesting reading.

    Massive bill on the new lease for the stadium due in September and Chansiri told all the players if they got relegated, then their salaries would be halved and if they don't like it they can leave.

    But if they haven't been paid for a couple of months, what is half of nothing? Unless somebody buys them sharpish, they look to be up to their necks in it! How are they going to entice new players to the club?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    I know we make fun of them due to some of the nonsense when we were both competing for the L1 title a decade ago (only one winner in that contest) but this is a rubbish thing for their supporters to go through. Hate seeing how regularly this is happening to clubs in England. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2021
    I do genuinely have sympathy for them and really hope they don't go bust but but I am also thinking if they have any players that we might want!
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    Scummy cheating club.
    Scummy fans.
    No sympathy from me.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    If I remember rightly, most of Wednesday fans on Owlstalk thought there was nothing wrong with the way Chansiri cheated the other year and didn’t think any penalties should be put in place. Of course that’s only a selection of the fan base and I’m sure there were many who were disgusted by what happened and agreed with the 12 point deduction (before it was wrongly reduced anyway).  
  • Walt
    Walt Posts: 45
    Interesting to read some of their fans bemoaning the impotence of the EFL in  not reining in Chansiri. Wonder if these are the same fans who a year ago were saying that Wednesday had done nothing wrong and that a points deduction would have been a travesty.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,437
    I don't want Sheff W to go bust.
    But I'd quite like them to be be fighting relegation from L2 for 10 years, or get relegated to non league. 
    This. They cheated and they avoided punishment which has fortunately caught up with them. Eventually
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Have to feel for the supporters,as always,like us,they are the innocent party in all this,and are powerless to watch their club implode chasing impossible dreams.They must have players earning totally unrealistic wages,those players and the people who agreed those wages must have known the situation,so no sympathy there.I hope they stay in business,but a drop to div.2 might just be the wake up call lower football needs,I cannot help but feel this is the tip of the iceberg.Even at top level,how can mediocre players,like De Gea,Aubamyang,warrant wages of £300k a week plus,someone has to have the balls to say no.
    Equating De Gea's salary to the problems at Wednesday is part of the problem.

    One club can afford it, one clearly can't.  Comparing the salaries of top players at top clubs to championship, league 1 or even lower level Premier League players is a wrong comparison. It's like an extra in a channel 5 drama negotiating based on what the Rock earns. 
  • Addickted said:
    OwlsTalk is making some interesting reading.

    Massive bill on the new lease for the stadium due in September and Chansiri told all the players if they got relegated, then their salaries would be halved and if they don't like it they can leave.

    Read something on Owlstalk that said if they don't pay 7m in September then whoever they owe the money to can kick them out of Hillsborough.