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World Cup Willie

letthegoodtimesroll
letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,676
in Other Football and Sports
was the name of the official mascot in 1966 as I mentioned to mrs ltgtr when a guy was showing Sky news his memorabilia from back then. Today it sounds more like an infliction. Is there an official mascot for Euro 2020 ?
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  • RedRyan
    RedRyan Posts: 912
    Maybe the tiny car is this years mascot?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    RedRyan said:
    Maybe the tiny car is this years mascot?
    Chris Powell surely?
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,133
    Ageing skiffle star Lonnie Donegan was chosen to record the official '66 song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA3btKkbZpU
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,154
    Never mind a mascot, we need to bring back the Mexico 1970 World Cup Esso coins. That was also when Panini stickers made their debut
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,133
    Interesting to note that the chorus goes, "in his red, white and blue World Cup Willie"
    Also he is wearing the Union flag and not the English flag.
    If you check old footage you will see there were more Union flags than St. George's flags being waved by the crowd.
    People much more union orientated back in those days and proud to wave the Union flag.
    Became much less popular during the 70's when the Union flag became synonymous with the far right, racist National Front party.

  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,137
    ricky_otto said:
    Mrs Otto will be getting Euro 2020 Willie if we win tomorrow. 
    Has she got someone booked?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    MrWalker said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Mrs Otto will be getting Euro 2020 Willie if we win tomorrow. 
    Has she got someone booked?
    Mate, she can have the whole England squad booked if we win. But just to be cruel I might make Ben White miss out. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Blucher said:
    Never mind a mascot, we need to bring back the Mexico 1970 World Cup Esso coins. That was also when Panini stickers made their debut
    I managed to collect the Euro 96 coin collection. Can quite remember if it was Sainsbury’s that we’re doing them. 
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,681
    edited July 2021
    1966 world cup final on Channel 4 now. Second half just started if anyone interested other than me!

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited July 2021
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Interesting to note that the chorus goes, "in his red, white and blue World Cup Willie"
    Also he is wearing the Union flag and not the English flag.
    If you check old footage you will see there were more Union flags than St. George's flags being waved by the crowd.
    People much more union orientated back in those days and proud to wave the Union flag.
    Became much less popular during the 70's when the Union flag became synonymous with the far right, racist National Front party.

    Euro 96 was a bit of a "coming of age" of the St George's flag wasn't it?

    I don't remember seeing anywhere near as many before that.  Even a club level you always saw many more union flags.  Now I would suggest there are significantly more "England flags". 

    What does this tell you?  Probably nothing of any significants. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    LenGlover said:
    1966 world cup final on Channel 4 now. Second half just started if anyone interested other than me!
    Let’s us know how it goes Len. I’ve backed 4-2 in extra time. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,387
    ricky_otto said:
    LenGlover said:
    1966 world cup final on Channel 4 now. Second half just started if anyone interested other than me!
    Let’s us know how it goes Len. I’ve backed 4-2 in extra time. 
    the referee disallows Hurst's second 'goal'
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,368
    Channel 4 currently have the 66 final on, what I really enjoy these days apart from the result, is the commentary, no waffle screaming or shouting just pure and simple good informed commentary. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,924
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Interesting to note that the chorus goes, "in his red, white and blue World Cup Willie"
    Also he is wearing the Union flag and not the English flag.
    If you check old footage you will see there were more Union flags than St. George's flags being waved by the crowd.
    People much more union orientated back in those days and proud to wave the Union flag.
    Became much less popular during the 70's when the Union flag became synonymous with the far right, racist National Front party.

    Euro 96 was a bit of a "coming of age" of the St George's flag wasn't it?

    I don't remember seeing anywhere near as many before that.  Even a club level you always saw many more union flags.  Now I would suggest there are significantly more "England flags". 

    What does this tell you?  Probably nothing of any significants. 
    Italia 90 was full of Union Flags if I recall rightly 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,676
    MrWalker said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Mrs Otto will be getting Euro 2020 Willie if we win tomorrow. 
    Has she got someone booked?
    Nicky Bailey taking him up in an offer made when he was playing for us ?
  • Mosscat
    Mosscat Posts: 197

  • SE7toSG3
    SE7toSG3 Posts: 3,140
    I have one of those as well and always wondered what it was, I found it among  my Grandads things when he died 

  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,289
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ageing skiffle star Lonnie Donegan was chosen to record the official '66 song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA3btKkbZpU
    Found a copy of this at my Mums on Wednesday while sorting stuff. Remember the song didn't realise Lonnie Donegan was singing it & even when I had the picture cover in my hand it didn't register.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Lincsaddick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    LenGlover said:
    1966 world cup final on Channel 4 now. Second half just started if anyone interested other than me!
    Let’s us know how it goes Len. I’ve backed 4-2 in extra time. 
    the referee disallows Hurst's second 'goal'
    55 years offside?

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  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    jonseventyfive said:
    Channel 4 currently have the 66 final on, what I really enjoy these days apart from the result, is the commentary, no waffle screaming or shouting just pure and simple good informed commentary. 
    I only caught the end of this, but I recorded it as I've never watched it all in colour before.
    As others have mentioned flags, it was noticeable at Wembley that day it was mainly Union Jack flags being waved (Are you allowed to call it Union Jack anymore? I'm lost).
    Loved the old footage in Trafalgar Sq.

  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,913
    orpingtonRED said:
    jonseventyfive said:
    Channel 4 currently have the 66 final on, what I really enjoy these days apart from the result, is the commentary, no waffle screaming or shouting just pure and simple good informed commentary. 
    I only caught the end of this, but I recorded it as I've never watched it all in colour before.
    As others have mentioned flags, it was noticeable at Wembley that day it was mainly Union Jack flags being waved (Are you allowed to call it Union Jack anymore? I'm lost).
    Loved the old footage in Trafalgar Sq.

    The Union Jack was the flag of choice at England matched until relatively recently - Euro 96 was the first time the Flag of St George predominated.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,014
    This is the awful B side to 1982's "This time we'll get it right", and there is a definite mix of England and British flags, and a weird cross promotion with British Airways!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPoHNN0UOr4
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    SporadicAddick said:
    orpingtonRED said:
    jonseventyfive said:
    Channel 4 currently have the 66 final on, what I really enjoy these days apart from the result, is the commentary, no waffle screaming or shouting just pure and simple good informed commentary. 
    I only caught the end of this, but I recorded it as I've never watched it all in colour before.
    As others have mentioned flags, it was noticeable at Wembley that day it was mainly Union Jack flags being waved (Are you allowed to call it Union Jack anymore? I'm lost).
    Loved the old footage in Trafalgar Sq.

    The Union Jack was the flag of choice at England matched until relatively recently - Euro 96 was the first time the Flag of St George predominated.
    Any idea why mate?
    I know we didn't play in 94 world cup so what happened in them few years that made fans switch flags?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,083
    orpingtonRED said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    orpingtonRED said:
    jonseventyfive said:
    Channel 4 currently have the 66 final on, what I really enjoy these days apart from the result, is the commentary, no waffle screaming or shouting just pure and simple good informed commentary. 
    I only caught the end of this, but I recorded it as I've never watched it all in colour before.
    As others have mentioned flags, it was noticeable at Wembley that day it was mainly Union Jack flags being waved (Are you allowed to call it Union Jack anymore? I'm lost).
    Loved the old footage in Trafalgar Sq.

    The Union Jack was the flag of choice at England matched until relatively recently - Euro 96 was the first time the Flag of St George predominated.
    Any idea why mate?
    I know we didn't play in 94 world cup so what happened in them few years that made fans switch flags?
    Maybe something to do with so many Scots disliking us and wanting us to lose & maybe the Welsh and for all I know the Northern Irish as well.
    So we started flying the English flag?
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,229
    MrOneLung said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Interesting to note that the chorus goes, "in his red, white and blue World Cup Willie"
    Also he is wearing the Union flag and not the English flag.
    If you check old footage you will see there were more Union flags than St. George's flags being waved by the crowd.
    People much more union orientated back in those days and proud to wave the Union flag.
    Became much less popular during the 70's when the Union flag became synonymous with the far right, racist National Front party.

    Euro 96 was a bit of a "coming of age" of the St George's flag wasn't it?

    I don't remember seeing anywhere near as many before that.  Even a club level you always saw many more union flags.  Now I would suggest there are significantly more "England flags". 

    What does this tell you?  Probably nothing of any significants. 
    Italia 90 was full of Union Flags if I recall rightly 
    I lost my Union Flag in The Plough in Lewisham during the 1990 World Cup , think it was the Platt night , fuck knows completely trashed and carnage in there it was 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Covered End said:
    orpingtonRED said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    orpingtonRED said:
    jonseventyfive said:
    Channel 4 currently have the 66 final on, what I really enjoy these days apart from the result, is the commentary, no waffle screaming or shouting just pure and simple good informed commentary. 
    I only caught the end of this, but I recorded it as I've never watched it all in colour before.
    As others have mentioned flags, it was noticeable at Wembley that day it was mainly Union Jack flags being waved (Are you allowed to call it Union Jack anymore? I'm lost).
    Loved the old footage in Trafalgar Sq.

    The Union Jack was the flag of choice at England matched until relatively recently - Euro 96 was the first time the Flag of St George predominated.
    Any idea why mate?
    I know we didn't play in 94 world cup so what happened in them few years that made fans switch flags?
    Maybe something to do with so many Scots disliking us and wanting us to lose & maybe the Welsh and for all I know the Northern Irish as well.
    So we started flying the English flag?
    Just wondered if something historic happened 1990-96 for the flags to change. I was off my head raving so don't remember.
    Just seems a big jump when you look at footage of Wembley games 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,676
    I seem to recall there was a point where everybody started to question why it was that the other home nations were always flying their own flags at games and making a big thing of their national day and we weren’t. Pretty sure St George’s day was never really that big a deal either until then. The national anthems also got included in that debate as well
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ageing skiffle star Lonnie Donegan was chosen to record the official '66 song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA3btKkbZpU
    Funny thing is, growing up back then I thought the Union Jack was the English national flag, seems like both the graphic designer and the songwriter thought so too. 

    The emergence of our true national flag the Cross of St George seems to have emerged much later.

  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,582
    I agree - I didn’t even know when St. George’s Day was until I was 22/23, and that was only because a pub near where I was working did a promotion.

    I wonder how much devolution played into this - raising English awareness. 

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