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Charlton betting odds for season 21/22

meldrew66
meldrew66 Posts: 2,576
in General Charlton
Skybet are offering the following odds on us for the coming season. Which ones do you think are good value and which will you be betting on, if any?

1. League 1 Winners: 12-1
2. Automatic promotion: 4-1
3. Top 6: 13-8
4. Top half finish 1-2

I reckon lump on top half and place a smaller bet on top 6. Unless we do some amazing business very soon, I can’t see us doing any better than that.

Thoughts?
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  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,089
    I think I will hold fire for now, it's too soon to have a clue
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Top half is printing money. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,178
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Top half is printing money. 
    Yeah if you had a bit of dough that would be a wise investment.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,712
    We still have a one paced midfield and there's no sign of us bringing in the 20 goal a season striker we clearly need. Anything more than a top 12 finish is optimistic at the moment.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,314
    Too early to make a call. The bookies assuming we will be getting some players in. Will wait for a few weeks 
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,013
    Think we were 14s in the SCP title season, and pretty sure we'd already made a shed load of high calibre signings at this stage.

    Got a weaker squad than we finished last season with as it stands. If I had a couple of grand floating around I'd be all over the top half finish, not much value in the other stuff though.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,088
    They cap the top half finish bets at £250 profit

    Or they did to me last season. 

    I did that and then invested the £250 in a bet to reach the play offs. Goal difference away from  tidy profit. 

    Placed them after our dodgy start when we were bottom half .... so odds were much better than the above, too 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,576
    edited July 2021
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    They cap the top half finish bets at £250 profit

    Or they did to me last season. 

    I did that and then invested the £250 in a bet to reach the play offs. Goal difference away from  tidy profit. 

    Placed them after our dodgy start when we were bottom half .... so odds were much better than the above, too 
    Correct. Max £500 bet on top half finish pays £750. I’m on it. Hopefully pays for my season ticket.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,407
    meldrew66 said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    They cap the top half finish bets at £250 profit

    Or they did to me last season. 

    I did that and then invested the £250 in a bet to reach the play offs. Goal difference away from  tidy profit. 

    Placed them after our dodgy start when we were bottom half .... so odds were much better than the above, too 
    Correct. Max £500 bet on top half finish pays £750. I’m on it. Hopefully pays for my season ticket.

    If you can only bet £500 that will make you a £250 profit.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,991
    Sadly I still think Covid has a role to play this season. Not sure if it’s predetermined what a curtailed season looks like e.g. points per game etc. 

    In those circumstances would the bet still stand?

    Whilst I am confident they are good odds for a top half finish the unknowns are a possible factor. 

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  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,314
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    They cap the top half finish bets at £250 profit

    Or they did to me last season. 

    I did that and then invested the £250 in a bet to reach the play offs. Goal difference away from  tidy profit. 

    Placed them after our dodgy start when we were bottom half .... so odds were much better than the above, too 
    Correct. Max £500 bet on top half finish pays £750. I’m on it. Hopefully pays for my season ticket.

    If you can only bet £500 that will make you a £250 profit.
    Being someone who doesn't normally bet on football, what is the tax situation on that bet? 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,071
    No tax on bets 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,045
    redman said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    They cap the top half finish bets at £250 profit

    Or they did to me last season. 

    I did that and then invested the £250 in a bet to reach the play offs. Goal difference away from  tidy profit. 

    Placed them after our dodgy start when we were bottom half .... so odds were much better than the above, too 
    Correct. Max £500 bet on top half finish pays £750. I’m on it. Hopefully pays for my season ticket.

    If you can only bet £500 that will make you a £250 profit.
    Being someone who doesn't normally bet on football, what is the tax situation on that bet? 
    Tax free 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    redman said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    They cap the top half finish bets at £250 profit

    Or they did to me last season. 

    I did that and then invested the £250 in a bet to reach the play offs. Goal difference away from  tidy profit. 

    Placed them after our dodgy start when we were bottom half .... so odds were much better than the above, too 
    Correct. Max £500 bet on top half finish pays £750. I’m on it. Hopefully pays for my season ticket.

    If you can only bet £500 that will make you a £250 profit.
    Being someone who doesn't normally bet on football, what is the tax situation on that bet? 
    You would have to pay £250 tax.
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,576
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    They cap the top half finish bets at £250 profit

    Or they did to me last season. 

    I did that and then invested the £250 in a bet to reach the play offs. Goal difference away from  tidy profit. 

    Placed them after our dodgy start when we were bottom half .... so odds were much better than the above, too 
    Correct. Max £500 bet on top half finish pays £750. I’m on it. Hopefully pays for my season ticket.

    If you can only bet £500 that will make you a £250 profit.
    Yep. 50% return on investment in just 9 months sounds pretty good to me.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,225
    edited July 2021
    meldrew66 said:
    Skybet are offering the following odds on us for the coming season. Which ones do you think are good value and which will you be betting on, if any?

    1. League 1 Winners: 12-1
    2. Automatic promotion: 4-1
    3. Top 6: 13-8
    4. Top half finish 1-2

    I reckon lump on top half and place a smaller bet on top 6. Unless we do some amazing business very soon, I can’t see us doing any better than that.

    Thoughts?
    I started the exact same thread a couple of weeks ago.
    I did all the bets.
    The top half bet I've won our last 2 seasons in L1.
    It's very difficult to see how we can't end up top half.
    I cashed out without loss the promotion and top 6 bets last season. 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,576
    Covered End said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Skybet are offering the following odds on us for the coming season. Which ones do you think are good value and which will you be betting on, if any?

    1. League 1 Winners: 12-1
    2. Automatic promotion: 4-1
    3. Top 6: 13-8
    4. Top half finish 1-2

    I reckon lump on top half and place a smaller bet on top 6. Unless we do some amazing business very soon, I can’t see us doing any better than that.

    Thoughts?
    I started the exact same thread a couple of weeks ago.
    I did all the bets.
    The top half bet I've won our last 2 seasons in L1.
    It's very difficult to see how we can't end up top half.
    I cashed out without loss the promotion and top 6 bets last season. 
    Apologies for not seeing your thread.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,088
    Covered End said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Skybet are offering the following odds on us for the coming season. Which ones do you think are good value and which will you be betting on, if any?

    1. League 1 Winners: 12-1
    2. Automatic promotion: 4-1
    3. Top 6: 13-8
    4. Top half finish 1-2

    I reckon lump on top half and place a smaller bet on top 6. Unless we do some amazing business very soon, I can’t see us doing any better than that.

    Thoughts?
    I started the exact same thread a couple of weeks ago.
    I did all the bets.
    The top half bet I've won our last 2 seasons in L1.
    It's very difficult to see how we can't end up top half.
    I cashed out without loss the promotion and top 6 bets last season. 
    When did you cash out?

    I stuck with mine right to the end with an eye on the big prize 

    Did the same with England in Euros 

    And Ooisthausen in the golf 

    Keep bloody missing out 

    Don't think I'd change of of the decides though:)


  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,983
    Surely Wigan at 1/2 is also a no brainer.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,225
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    Covered End said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Skybet are offering the following odds on us for the coming season. Which ones do you think are good value and which will you be betting on, if any?

    1. League 1 Winners: 12-1
    2. Automatic promotion: 4-1
    3. Top 6: 13-8
    4. Top half finish 1-2

    I reckon lump on top half and place a smaller bet on top 6. Unless we do some amazing business very soon, I can’t see us doing any better than that.

    Thoughts?
    I started the exact same thread a couple of weeks ago.
    I did all the bets.
    The top half bet I've won our last 2 seasons in L1.
    It's very difficult to see how we can't end up top half.
    I cashed out without loss the promotion and top 6 bets last season. 
    When did you cash out?

    I stuck with mine right to the end with an eye on the big prize 

    Did the same with England in Euros 

    And Ooisthausen in the golf 

    Keep bloody missing out 

    Don't think I'd change of of the decides though:)


    It was when we fell to 13th (I think 13th) in about February and before our form recovered initially under Bowyer. 

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  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,088
    Covered End said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    Covered End said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Skybet are offering the following odds on us for the coming season. Which ones do you think are good value and which will you be betting on, if any?

    1. League 1 Winners: 12-1
    2. Automatic promotion: 4-1
    3. Top 6: 13-8
    4. Top half finish 1-2

    I reckon lump on top half and place a smaller bet on top 6. Unless we do some amazing business very soon, I can’t see us doing any better than that.

    Thoughts?
    I started the exact same thread a couple of weeks ago.
    I did all the bets.
    The top half bet I've won our last 2 seasons in L1.
    It's very difficult to see how we can't end up top half.
    I cashed out without loss the promotion and top 6 bets last season. 
    When did you cash out?

    I stuck with mine right to the end with an eye on the big prize 

    Did the same with England in Euros 

    And Ooisthausen in the golf 

    Keep bloody missing out 

    Don't think I'd change of of the decides though:)


    It was when we fell to 13th (I think 13th) in about February and before our form recovered initially under Bowyer. 
    Aha... thats when I put a bit more on promotion at incredible odds. 

    Didn't get me any profit in in end, though :(
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,460
    I'd Say if you can Top half is probably a bit of value, i like top 6 too. Our odds will go in If we start signing people so nows the time to bet unless you think we start poor again. 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,576
    edited July 2021
    johnnybev1987 said:
    I'd Say if you can Top half is probably a bit of value, i like top 6 too. Our odds will go in If we start signing people so nows the time to bet unless you think we start poor again. 
    Looking at the fixture list, I would say we have a tough first 3 games which may not yield a win against strong opposition (Sheff Weds, Oxford and Wigan) so you may have a point about the odds potentially improving after a handful of games. Oh well, I’m locked in now with a monkey on top half finish @ 1/2. I’m still not sure we will make the top 6 with the current squad as I can’t see us scoring enough. I was more confident last year and lumped on but, of course, we fell just short. I even bloody cashed out the top half bet when he had the mid season wobble too. I must learn to hold my nerve as none of my cash-outs so far have been the right decision.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,100
    Gone for Charlton top six @ 7/2 on Virginbet with some money that I made from the free welcome bet offer for the Euros.

    Not confident enough to bet on promotion yet, but feel that we will be there or thereabouts.  I can see the League being much more challenging than last year, which I feel we see as an opportunity squandered -principally for holding onto LB for too long until the damage was irreparable.

    I'm sure the squad will improve and so will my optimism, but there's a lot of teams chucking the wedge about at the moment....it's going to be savage!
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,460
    meldrew66 said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    I'd Say if you can Top half is probably a bit of value, i like top 6 too. Our odds will go in If we start signing people so nows the time to bet unless you think we start poor again. 
    Looking at the fixture list, I would say we have a tough first 3 games which may not yield a win against strong opposition (Sheff Weds, Oxford and Wigan) so you may have a point about the odds potentially improving after a handful of games. Oh well, I’m locked in now with a monkey on top half finish @ 1/2. I’m still not sure we will make the top 6 with the current squad as I can’t see us scoring enough. I was more confident last year and lumped on but, of course, we fell just short. I even bloody cashed out the top half bet when he had the mid season wobble too. I must learn to hold my nerve as none of my cash-outs so far have been the right decision.
    I backed us early doors when we had a slip up on the basis TS was coming in, looked like we would get some form going but then it just nose dived. I had top 3 last year and was fairly confident, i'd probably be more confident for a top 6 this season but top half is the bet IMO 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,576
    bigstemarra said:
    Gone for Charlton top six @ 7/2 on Virginbet with some money that I made from the free welcome bet offer for the Euros.

    Not confident enough to bet on promotion yet, but feel that we will be there or thereabouts.  I can see the League being much more challenging than last year, which I feel we see as an opportunity squandered -principally for holding onto LB for too long until the damage was irreparable.

    I'm sure the squad will improve and so will my optimism, but there's a lot of teams chucking the wedge about at the moment....it's going to be savage!
    Actually, your 7/2 bet with Virginbet is for promotion, not top 6 - unless I’ve read their website wrong. I thought 7/2 compared to 13/8 with Skybet was too good to be true for top 6. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,225
    meldrew66 said:
    bigstemarra said:
    Gone for Charlton top six @ 7/2 on Virginbet with some money that I made from the free welcome bet offer for the Euros.

    Not confident enough to bet on promotion yet, but feel that we will be there or thereabouts.  I can see the League being much more challenging than last year, which I feel we see as an opportunity squandered -principally for holding onto LB for too long until the damage was irreparable.

    I'm sure the squad will improve and so will my optimism, but there's a lot of teams chucking the wedge about at the moment....it's going to be savage!
    Actually, your 7/2 bet with Virginbet is for promotion, not top 6 - unless I’ve read their website wrong. I thought 7/2 compared to 13/8 with Skybet was too good to be true for top 6. 
    I was surprised as well, especially as I use oddschecker.
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,474
    Not Charlton related but did Ipswich+Chelsea league win double £50 @ 60/1
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469

    Sporting Index are going Charlton 71-73 points on there spreads.

    I think we will get over  80 points, they have Ipswich 77-79 points as favourites

  • norwayaddick
    norwayaddick Posts: 406
    I try avoid betting Charlton but a bit surprised by lack of movement on long term odds this last week. First league win against Crewe followed up by a 6-1 cup win with a reserve team, showing good squad depth. Squad significantly strengthened on Deadline Day and the days leading up to it. Additions like Arter and Leko certainly has more quality and potential than any other recent transfer business by L1 clubs.

    Really cant see us finishing bottom half, and have put all my long term betting money on Charlton. £700 spread:

    340 at Charlton finishing top half:
    3/4 (pays 595)

    290 at Charlton top six:
    9/4 (pays 942,50)

    70 at Charlton automatic promotion:
    12/1 (pays 910)

    Most likely to give a 105 pound loss (position 7-12), but I do like the possible profit on Charlton making a Play Off place (837,50) or even get the automatics (1747,50).

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