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Lincsaddick
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I am surprised that there is no mention on here, not any that I've seen at least. The story of the formation and rise of the Premier League. Nice bit of nostalgia that should interest all football fans.
I expect there will be a few comments damning the money saturated 'big clubs' and how they have ruined the 'people's game', but own up everyone, who amongst us would not like to see our CAFC up there playing and winning at the top of the Premier League table.
Come on you Addicksssssss
I expect there will be a few comments damning the money saturated 'big clubs' and how they have ruined the 'people's game', but own up everyone, who amongst us would not like to see our CAFC up there playing and winning at the top of the Premier League table.
Come on you Addicksssssss
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I watched it, some cracking footage, the United squad having a party till 4am at “Brucey’s house” despite not winning the title yet, brilliant. The dip in attendances since the World Cup win as well was clear it meant something had to happen.It’s hard not to have admiration for the PL I must admit, they should however just take note that a lot of the talent up there comes from the football league, and recognise that with a better distribution of wealth.3
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Look at League 1 & count how many teams have been in the Premier League over the past 30 years.
Us
Sunderland
Portsmouth
Wigan
Bolton
Sheff Wed
Ipswich
MK Dons (as Wimbledon)
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You can't have the last one mategolfaddick said:Look at League 1 & count how many teams have been in the Premier League over the past 30 years.
Us
Sunderland
Portsmouth
Wigan
Bolton
Sheff Wed
Ipswich
MK Dons (as Wimbledon)
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As a little nostalgic trip down memory lane it was alright, but it seemed to focus almost exclusively on Man United, with a bit of Blackburn thrown in. No mention of Villa or Norwich, who also finished in the top 4 that year.
Also, they interviewed David Dein and Martin Edwards who, not surprisingly, were all in favour of the formation of the Premier League. But they didn't spend any time questioning it or the motives behind it - more money for the big clubs and sod the rest - which we are still suffering from today. There was no counter view, just an acceptance that it was all brilliant.13 -
not forgetting founder member Oldham .. now in the bottom 2 of L2golfaddick said:Look at League 1 & count how many teams have been in the Premier League over the past 30 years.
Us
Sunderland
Portsmouth
Wigan
Bolton
Sheff Wed
Ipswich
MK Dons (as Wimbledon)0 -
I thought they had the party because they had won the title?BR7_addick said:I watched it, some cracking footage, the United squad having a party till 4am at “Brucey’s house” despite not winning the title yet, brilliant. The dip in attendances since the World Cup win as well was clear it meant something had to happen.It’s hard not to have admiration for the PL I must admit, they should however just take note that a lot of the talent up there comes from the football league, and recognise that with a better distribution of wealth.
Even though they had one game to play.0 -
Lincsaddick said:I am surprised that there is no mention on here, not any that I've seen at least. The story of the formation and rise of the Premier League. Nice bit of nostalgia that should interest all football fans.
I expect there will be a few comments damning the money saturated 'big clubs' and how they have ruined the 'people's game', but own up everyone, who amongst us would not like to see our CAFC up there playing and winning at the top of the Premier League table.
Come on you AddicksssssssHad it not been for the invention of the Premier League then there would have been a stronger chance of clubs like Charlton being able to compete at the top of the pyramid, rather than ring-fencing it for just the biggest brands.3 -
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I thought they had the party because they had won the title?BR7_addick said:I watched it, some cracking footage, the United squad having a party till 4am at “Brucey’s house” despite not winning the title yet, brilliant. The dip in attendances since the World Cup win as well was clear it meant something had to happen.It’s hard not to have admiration for the PL I must admit, they should however just take note that a lot of the talent up there comes from the football league, and recognise that with a better distribution of wealth.
Even though they had one game to play.
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I thought they had the party because they had won the title?BR7_addick said:I watched it, some cracking footage, the United squad having a party till 4am at “Brucey’s house” despite not winning the title yet, brilliant. The dip in attendances since the World Cup win as well was clear it meant something had to happen.It’s hard not to have admiration for the PL I must admit, they should however just take note that a lot of the talent up there comes from the football league, and recognise that with a better distribution of wealth.
Even though they had one game to play.0 -
I watched it and enjoyed the nostalgia element of it, but also found myself getting wound up by those who made it quite clear they were acting in the interest of making money out of Americanising the game with their silly gimmicks.
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The chants of what the f#%#%#% hell is that, soon put paid to that.cafctom said:I watched it and enjoyed the nostalgia element of it, but also found myself getting wound up by those who made it quite clear they were acting in the interest of making money out of Americanising the game with their silly gimmicks.2 -
Don't remember Colchester hitting such heady heights.golfaddick said:Look at League 1 & count how many teams have been in the Premier League over the past 30 years.
Us
Sunderland
Portsmouth
Wigan
Bolton
Sheff Wed
Ipswich
MK Dons (as Wimbledon)7 -
as I saw it they were already assured of the title .. I learnt something from the prog .. I thought that Blackburn won the first Prem title .. who won the second ?.. Blackburn ? .. all will be revealed .. the emphasis on Mon U and Blackburn was I think to contrast the Goliath v David situations of the two clubs .. as for @o@Off_it's comments about 'the money', there was a lot of comment on the lines of 'we knew that marketing would be crucial' , no bones were made about it, cash and profit were major factors behind the Prem. Interesting also how Murdoch put up £300 Million as seed money, without him would the project have survived?Covered End said:
I thought they had the party because they had won the title?BR7_addick said:I watched it, some cracking footage, the United squad having a party till 4am at “Brucey’s house” despite not winning the title yet, brilliant. The dip in attendances since the World Cup win as well was clear it meant something had to happen.It’s hard not to have admiration for the PL I must admit, they should however just take note that a lot of the talent up there comes from the football league, and recognise that with a better distribution of wealth.
Even though they had one game to play.
One point which wasn't mentioned although it may come up later, was the later Thatcher government's move to make all stadia all seater, a deterrent to hooliganism and a move towards more women and children attending games, this probably made the Premier League and football in general more attractive to the more 'genteel' folk2 -
Yeah, agree. When David Dein told that story about when he went to an American football game and people kept getting up for hotdogs all the time, you could literally see the pound signs in his eyes.cafctom said:I watched it and enjoyed the nostalgia element of it, but also found myself getting wound up by those who made it quite clear they were acting in the interest of making money out of Americanising the game with their silly gimmicks.4 -
Yes it was sickening.Off_it said:
Yeah, agree. When David Dein told that story about when he went to an American football game and people kept getting up for hotdogs all the time, you could literally see the pound signs in his eyes.cafctom said:I watched it and enjoyed the nostalgia element of it, but also found myself getting wound up by those who made it quite clear they were acting in the interest of making money out of Americanising the game with their silly gimmicks.0 -
United won the first 2 seasons, then Blackburn won in 95.Lincsaddick said:
as I saw it they were already assured of the title .. I learnt something from the prog .. I thought that Blackburn won the first Prem title .. who won the second ?.. Blackburn ? .. all will be revealed .. the emphasis on Mon U and Blackburn was I think to contrast the Goliath v David situations of the two clubs .. as for @o@Off_it's comments about 'the money', there was a lot of comment on the lines of 'we knew that marketing would be crucial' , no bones were made about it, cash and profit were major factors behind the Prem. Interesting also how Murdoch put up £300 Million as seed money, without him would the project have survived?Covered End said:
I thought they had the party because they had won the title?BR7_addick said:I watched it, some cracking footage, the United squad having a party till 4am at “Brucey’s house” despite not winning the title yet, brilliant. The dip in attendances since the World Cup win as well was clear it meant something had to happen.It’s hard not to have admiration for the PL I must admit, they should however just take note that a lot of the talent up there comes from the football league, and recognise that with a better distribution of wealth.
Even though they had one game to play.
One point which wasn't mentioned although it may come up later, was the later Thatcher government's move to make all stadia all seater, a deterrent to hooliganism and a move towards more women and children attending games, this probably made the Premier League and football in general more attractive to the more 'genteel' folk
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Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - Wikipedia
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I’d be keen to see the disparity in the clubs that finish in the top 4-6 places pre and post Premier League formation.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - WikipediaLeicester’s achievement of breaking the top 6 in recent years certainly feels like a major rarity that went against every trend going.0 -
AND .. no Englishman has yet managed a Premier League winner1
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50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - Wikipedia0 -
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name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - Wikipedia0 -
I’ll name every single one for you if you like. One of my pointless bits of knowledge, along with being able to name every US state.Lincsaddick said:
name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - Wikipedia1 -
go for itRoss said:
I’ll name every single one for you if you like. One of my pointless bits of knowledge, along with being able to name every US state.Lincsaddick said:
name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - Wikipedia0 -
Some could say Sky killed football for certain supporters.cafctom said:Lincsaddick said:I am surprised that there is no mention on here, not any that I've seen at least. The story of the formation and rise of the Premier League. Nice bit of nostalgia that should interest all football fans.
I expect there will be a few comments damning the money saturated 'big clubs' and how they have ruined the 'people's game', but own up everyone, who amongst us would not like to see our CAFC up there playing and winning at the top of the Premier League table.
Come on you AddicksssssssHad it not been for the invention of the Premier League then there would have been a stronger chance of clubs like Charlton being able to compete at the top of the pyramid, rather than ring-fencing it for just the biggest brands.1 -
Lincsaddick said:
go for itRoss said:
I’ll name every single one for you if you like. One of my pointless bits of knowledge, along with being able to name every US state.Lincsaddick said:
name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - WikipediaOn my phone so apologies for formatting, and the order they’re in (my way of doing it):Southampton
Portsmouth
Bournemouth
Brighton
Swindon
Watford
Reading
Cardiff
Swansea
Ipswich
Norwich
Spurs
West Ham
Arsenal
Chelsea
Fulham
QPR
Wimbledon
Palace
Charlton
Brentford
Newcastle
Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Everton
Liverpool
Blackpool
Man City
Man Utd
Bolton
Oldham
Burnley
Wigan
Blackburn
Huddersfield
Leeds
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Pukka, I’ve a similar pointless talent, I can name every winner of the top flight from 1980 onwards in order, still waiting for someone to ask me to do it at a party or sumin tho.Ross said:Lincsaddick said:
go for itRoss said:
I’ll name every single one for you if you like. One of my pointless bits of knowledge, along with being able to name every US state.Lincsaddick said:
name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - WikipediaOn my phone so apologies for formatting, and the order they’re in (my way of doing it):Southampton
Portsmouth
Bournemouth
Brighton
Swindon
Watford
Reading
Cardiff
Swansea
Ipswich
Norwich
Spurs
West Ham
Arsenal
Chelsea
Fulham
QPR
Wimbledon
Palace
Charlton
Brentford
Newcastle
Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Everton
Liverpool
Blackpool
Man City
Man Utd
Bolton
Oldham
Burnley
Wigan
Blackburn
Huddersfield
Leeds
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brilliant .. I guess that Brentford was the missing link .. and the forgotten Swindon & Bradford !! . that makes 3 ex prem clubs now in L2 .. thanks for that ((:>)Ross said:Lincsaddick said:
go for itRoss said:
I’ll name every single one for you if you like. One of my pointless bits of knowledge, along with being able to name every US state.Lincsaddick said:
name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - WikipediaOn my phone so apologies for formatting, and the order they’re in (my way of doing it):SouthamptonRoss said:Lincsaddick said:
go for itRoss said:
I’ll name every single one for you if you like. One of my pointless bits of knowledge, along with being able to name every US state.Lincsaddick said:
name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - WikipediaOn my phone so apologies for formatting, and the order they’re in (my way of doing it):Southampton1 -
Swindon = Jan arg Fjortoft. Baller he was.1
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You’ve missed one.Ross said:Lincsaddick said:
go for itRoss said:
I’ll name every single one for you if you like. One of my pointless bits of knowledge, along with being able to name every US state.Lincsaddick said:
name the missing team .. for TEN pointsRoss said:
50 teams actually.Lincsaddick said:Since the Premier League was formed, 49 clubs have played in it. Of those 49, only six - Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs – have played in the top flight every season. And, while the Premier League may pride itself on its competitiveness, only six of the 49 clubs to have played in it have actually won it.
Just SIX permanents .. so that dispels any notion of 'ring fencing' .. London and Lancashire rule .. no midlands or north east clubs.
AND if you compare the six Prem with the pre-Prem winners, there is not a lot of difference .. List of English football champions - WikipediaOn my phone so apologies for formatting, and the order they’re in (my way of doing it):Southampton
Portsmouth
Bournemouth
Brighton
Swindon
Watford
Reading
Cardiff
Swansea
Ipswich
Norwich
Spurs
West Ham
Arsenal
Chelsea
Fulham
QPR
Wimbledon
Palace
Charlton
Brentford
Newcastle
Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Everton
Liverpool
Blackpool
Man City
Man Utd
Bolton
Oldham
Burnley
Wigan
Blackburn
Huddersfield
Leeds
Sheffield Wed
Sheffield Utd
Bradford
Barnsley
Stoke
Hull
Derby
Coventry
Forest
Birmingham
Wolves
Aston Villa
West Brom
LeicesterWashington
Oregon
California
Arizona
New Mexico
Idaho
Montana
Wyoming
Nevada
Utah
Colorado
Oklahoma
Texas
North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Kansas
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Missouri
Mississippi
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Alabama
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Remember beating Swindon at their place with a Kim Grant winner years ago. They'd just sold Fjortoft that week i think and we all did his famous airplane celebration while singing damn busters! Seems like a lifetime ago!BR7_addick said:Swindon = Jan arg Fjortoft. Baller he was.3
