‘Fill the Valley’ - repeated for Ipswich and Cambridge Utd (p17)

AFKABartram said:

Ha, we win one game and we’re extending a stadium we don’t own that was less than a third full a couple of weeks ago :-) 

seth plum said:

Saturday was great.
Really great.
I estimate the real bums actually on seats attendance was around 22k.
Fantastic turn out, and made the more enjoyable because the attendance was in every way bigger than the capacity of the Toolbox, which has never been completely full anyway.

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

DOUCHER said:

eaststandmike said:

Love that photo but moving home fans to the Jimmy Seed does not sit well with me, just does not seem right.

agreed - i've always preferred the idea of anothe tier and / or a raised height on the East - would need to buy up a couple of houses to create more access half way down the stand but lets keep the jimmy seed small and lets keep the covered end the home end. The roof of the east is at the height of the original terracing - i know that coz i interviewed Roy King (client) and Kennedy Woodward (the designers) and Mowlem i think (contractors) when doing my QS degree and used it as a poject for my dissertation - got a desmond in the end coz i spent most of it talking about Charlton rather than design and build !!!  

I disagree, the stadium would look much better with a bit more symmetry to it. Having two tiers on the other three stands and then a tiny away end would look silly.

AndyG said:

Apologies if I have missed something but is that design from any official source ?

Lordflashheart said:

Henry Irving said:

AndyG said:

Apologies if I have missed something but is that design from any official source ?

yes, it was the architects mock up from 2004.

I found it in Tom Morris's archive along with some other mock ups. 

I'd post them but don't want to upset anyone 

Post away - can’t see how you would upset anyone ?

KBslittlesis said:

Maybe, with the run up to Christmas, they thought trying to get folks to come would be a hard sell?
This way all it’ll cost you is getting there (you don’t have to buy anything once there).
And the players still get to play in front of a decent crowd, which obviously lifts them.
Everyones a winner?

Then, Father Christmas might bring you a half season ticket 🤷‍♀️

I can see why they’ve done it.

KBslittlesis said:

Belv said:

KBslittlesis said:

Maybe, with the run up to Christmas, they thought trying to get folks to come would be a hard sell?
This way all it’ll cost you is getting there (you don’t have to buy anything once there).
And the players still get to play in front of a decent crowd, which obviously lifts them.
Everyones a winner?

Then, Father Christmas might bring you a half season ticket 🤷‍♀️

I can see why they’ve done it.

I dunno, I can see it having the opposite affect.

People may go to three home games on the trot free of charge and just think "Sod buying a ticket for the next game, they'll be doing more free tickets again soon, I'll wait for that".

Can’t see it continuing in the New Year tbh 🤷‍♀️

Airman Brown said:

Off_it said:

Airman Brown said:

southamptonaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

North Lower Neil said:

Croydon said:

Atmosphere was superb, so much for the worries about 'plastics'.

Should drop all ST prices next season, like Bradford City have done, to get as many in as possible week in week out.

It's a loss leader in a way too - yeah people might spend a bit less on a ticket but they buy food and drink in the ground, they buy a programme, they get a shirt because they are going....

The profit on the extra spend is relatively trivial because of the cost of sale and the people who spend nothing. It’s unlikely to be £2 per head on average. The value of a zero priced ticket is in repeat purchase, which potentially is a huge multiplier effect.

I would guess that yesterday cost the club about £50k in lost ticket revenue. You might regard that as a worthwhile investment (it was certainly successful in its own terms) but if you keep doing it then the likely effect will be to increase losses, not reduce them. 

There are other ways of doing it that don’t cost anything like the same money, however. 

I appreciate that you used to work for the club and what you post is your opinion based on those experiences but sometimes you do come across as bitter and miserable and it seems that no matter what initiative the club come up with you could have done better.

I really couldn’t give a toss what you think of me. These are the facts, not opinion. If people want to pretend the ground was full yesterday or catering etc compensates fully for ticket revenue they are just wrong.

I think you can cross him off your subscription list.

He does have a point that some of your posts do often come across as "I know best and wouldnt have done that" and whilst I appreciate that you have previous experience, you do seem to be pretty miserable after a pretty uplifting game.

I know you couldnt give a toss what I think either, which is fine by me.

Or alternatively some people just select any evidence which fits their preconception and discard anything else. That’s the world we live in, sadly. Miserable?