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Liam Gallagher on Charlton

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    seth plum said:
    The meaning of life?
    What conclusions has this sage come to or revealed?
    Cigarettes and alcohol.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Don't 100% agree with that - I'm from the 60s generation and Oasis still spoke to me.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    bobmunro said:
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Don't 100% agree with that - I'm from the 60s generation and Oasis still spoke to me.
    Did they say ‘Hey, Bob, jack in what you’re doing and head out and get totally like wasted man.’?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    bobmunro said:
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Don't 100% agree with that - I'm from the 60s generation and Oasis still spoke to me.
    Did they say ‘Hey, Bob, jack in what you’re doing and head out and get totally like wasted man.’?
    Something similar, yes!
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,227
    I shuddered when i heard about this year's Knebworth gig.  

    I went to the one in 96.  That three hour queue for a beer put me off big concerts for life.  I was sober, it was shit!

  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,867
    Curb_It said:
    I shuddered when i heard about this year's Knebworth gig.  

    I went to the one in 96.  That three hour queue for a beer put me off big concerts for life.  I was sober, it was shit!


    I saw oasis at the new wembley in 2009.

    I didn't have to que up for a beer as some angry nutter decided to chuck his £8 pint in my face 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Dave2l said:
    Curb_It said:
    I shuddered when i heard about this year's Knebworth gig.  

    I went to the one in 96.  That three hour queue for a beer put me off big concerts for life.  I was sober, it was shit!


    I saw oasis at the new wembley in 2009.

    I didn't have to que up for a beer as some angry nutter decided to chuck his £8 pint in my face 
    wow, thats cheap!
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,006
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Not just your age group … I was born in the 50’s and love Oasis 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    stonemuse said:
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Not just your age group … I was born in the 50’s and love Oasis 
    People born in the 50's have more musical taste and general better knowledge than people born in any other decade 
    Fact. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,809
    Don't agree that no band since has spoken to a generation, the Arctic Monkeys did when they broke.

    Fair play to Liam for still making music, doesn't appeal to me in anyway, but good luck to him 
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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    stonemuse said:
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Not just your age group … I was born in the 50’s and love Oasis 
    People born in the 50's have more musical taste and general better knowledge than people born in any other decade 
    Fact. 
    I can't disagree with that!
  • stonemuse said:
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Not just your age group … I was born in the 50’s and love Oasis 
    People born in the 50's have more musical taste and general better knowledge than people born in any other decade 
    Fact. 
    Can't accept this.

    You didn't write FACT.
  • Dave2l said:
    Curb_It said:
    I shuddered when i heard about this year's Knebworth gig.  

    I went to the one in 96.  That three hour queue for a beer put me off big concerts for life.  I was sober, it was shit!


    I saw oasis at the new wembley in 2009.

    I didn't have to que up for a beer as some angry nutter decided to chuck his £8 pint in my face 
    Surprised it managed to hit you from the stage.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,248
    Dave2l said:
    Curb_It said:
    I shuddered when i heard about this year's Knebworth gig.  

    I went to the one in 96.  That three hour queue for a beer put me off big concerts for life.  I was sober, it was shit!


    I saw oasis at the new wembley in 2009.

    I didn't have to que up for a beer as some angry nutter decided to chuck his £8 pint in my face 
    I was at the Sunday gig in 09 and from the sheer volume of piss being thrown you should count yourself lucky it was overpriced beer you took a face of! 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Rothko said:
    Don't agree that no band since has spoken to a generation, the Arctic Monkeys did when they broke.

    Fair play to Liam for still making music, doesn't appeal to me in anyway, but good luck to him 
    agreed, arctic monkeys also have far larger musical diversity in their back catalogue than oasis. I think i remember reading that they actively dislike their old songs, whilst noel could still go on for hours on how much of a masterpiece live forever is.
  • I actually thought The Streets were quite close to that whole speak for a generation thing with their debut.  
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Rothko said:
    Don't agree that no band since has spoken to a generation, the Arctic Monkeys did when they broke.

    Fair play to Liam for still making music, doesn't appeal to me in anyway, but good luck to him 
    agreed, arctic monkeys also have far larger musical diversity in their back catalogue than oasis. I think i remember reading that they actively dislike their old songs, whilst noel could still go on for hours on how much of a masterpiece live forever is.
    If I’d written something half as good as Live Forever then I’d be exactly the same.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited January 2022
    I actually thought The Streets were quite close to that whole speak for a generation thing with their debut.  
    completely agree. I love the streets, but mike is very much marmite - especially to those that don't want to sit down and listen to his music properly. He definitely changed the game in a big way. 
  • I'm talking about my specific generation regarding oasis. I was older when the Streets and Arctic Monkeys came about and they would have perhaps had a similar influence on younger generations in the way oasis did for those aged 14- 17 in mid 90s.  

    I do also appreciate that the oaps on here like @bobmunro and @stonemuse do also dig them :-) 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,809
    I'm talking about my specific generation regarding oasis. I was older when the Streets and Arctic Monkeys came about and they would have perhaps had a similar influence on younger generations in the way oasis did for those aged 14- 17 in mid 90s.  

    I do also appreciate that the oaps on here like @bobmunro and @stonemuse do also dig them :-) 
    I'm surprised about the Streets, you're about the same age as me, and the Streets felt like something which talked directly to me. 
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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,809
    cafctom said:
    Rothko said:
    Don't agree that no band since has spoken to a generation, the Arctic Monkeys did when they broke.

    Fair play to Liam for still making music, doesn't appeal to me in anyway, but good luck to him 
    agreed, arctic monkeys also have far larger musical diversity in their back catalogue than oasis. I think i remember reading that they actively dislike their old songs, whilst noel could still go on for hours on how much of a masterpiece live forever is.
    If I’d written something half as good as Live Forever then I’d be exactly the same.
    Likewise for something like Fake Tales of San Francisco, but Alex Turner is constantly looking to reinvent himself 
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    As a middle class Essex boy, it was always Blur that spoke more to me! (Not that I'd admit it) My chavvier, druggier mates mates were all about the Prodigy. Mind you I rocked a Spliffy top back in the day so was definitely part of the scene youknowhatimean. V97 Chelmsford with prodigy and blur was Essex woodstock (yes I binned off prodigy after Breathe to watch the Bluetones...) 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Rothko said:
    I'm talking about my specific generation regarding oasis. I was older when the Streets and Arctic Monkeys came about and they would have perhaps had a similar influence on younger generations in the way oasis did for those aged 14- 17 in mid 90s.  

    I do also appreciate that the oaps on here like @bobmunro and @stonemuse do also dig them :-) 
    I'm surprised about the Streets, you're about the same age as me, and the Streets felt like something which talked directly to me. 
    Try and find a bloke that can't relate to this song.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MpiyqpAu-Q
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited January 2022
    Rothko said:
    I'm surprised about the Streets, you're about the same age as me, and the Streets felt like something which talked directly to me. 
    Liked the Streets a lot but nowhere near the same impact or "sit up and take notice" effect that oasis had on me in 94/5/6

    I was in early 20s when the Streets surfaced so well beyond that key formative age when a band really grabs hold of you as a wide eyed youngster.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,905
    Curb_It said:
    I shuddered when i heard about this year's Knebworth gig.  

    I went to the one in 96.  That three hour queue for a beer put me off big concerts for life.  I was sober, it was shit!

    same, although we do now go to things like the hop farm and other low key events - it may not be cool but the main thing is you can take a deck chair in and get served easy  
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,905
    McBobbin said:
    As a middle class Essex boy, it was always Blur that spoke more to me! (Not that I'd admit it) My chavvier, druggier mates mates were all about the Prodigy. Mind you I rocked a Spliffy top back in the day so was definitely part of the scene youknowhatimean. V97 Chelmsford with prodigy and blur was Essex woodstock (yes I binned off prodigy after Breathe to watch the Bluetones...) 
    The Prodigy outshone Oasis at Knebwoth in 96 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    The documentary film about the Knebworth gig is absolutely superb.
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    Rothko said:
    Don't agree that no band since has spoken to a generation, the Arctic Monkeys did when they broke.

    Fair play to Liam for still making music, doesn't appeal to me in anyway, but good luck to him 
    Artic Monkeys may have spoke to a generation to a degree but nowhere near on the scale Oasis did, not even a quarter as much as Oasis.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,809
    buckshee said:
    Rothko said:
    Don't agree that no band since has spoken to a generation, the Arctic Monkeys did when they broke.

    Fair play to Liam for still making music, doesn't appeal to me in anyway, but good luck to him 
    Artic Monkeys may have spoke to a generation to a degree but nowhere near on the scale Oasis did, not even a quarter as much as Oasis.
    I look at my sisters generation and the effects the AM had on them was massive, also a band that generation found online so the growth was different, compared to Oasis who had one national radio station to dominate. 
  • stonemuse said:
    seth plum said:
    It always surprises me that people find his voice attractive in any way.
    To me it sounds like a musical whine, and unlike other questionable voices like Jagger or Dylan he never sounds to me like he means what he sings.

    You're not his target audience Seth. Oasis spoke to a generation of us in a way no band did before or has since if you were of a certain age and type in the mid 90s.


    Not just your age group … I was born in the 50’s and love Oasis 
    People born in the 50's have more musical taste and general better knowledge than people born in any other decade 
    Fact. 
    You mean like Limahl???

    And I suppose that, in fairness, Kajagoogoo also spoke to a generation, but that that generation's response is unprintable...