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Chester are an English club, insists chairman.
MrOneLung
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"On Saturday, the Welsh government insisted Chester FC's stadium was in Wales".
Because it is.5 -
Agreed but why don't Welsh police control their games? Cheshire police doNorth Lower Neil said:"On Saturday, the Welsh government insisted Chester FC's stadium was in Wales".
Because it is.5 -
This is where it is all a bit preposterous, but I suppose you have to draw the line (literally) somewhere.
2,000 fans could legally stand in close proximity in the stadium car park, but cant walk 100 yards and spread out more safely on open terraces.
Devolution was one of Blair's many legacies. It has resulted in parish councillors like Drakeford running countries and implementing policy for the sake of differentiation. This is the man that ordered supermarkets to close aisles to prevent people from buying coats last winter.
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blimey that is a close call
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Or raise this in 2020 when the same situation arose...Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Agreed but why don't Welsh police control their games? Cheshire police doNorth Lower Neil said:"On Saturday, the Welsh government insisted Chester FC's stadium was in Wales".
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No Idea, but whichever force gets the job they surely have to be aware of here they are and what the law is in that place.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Agreed but why don't Welsh police control their games? Cheshire police doNorth Lower Neil said:"On Saturday, the Welsh government insisted Chester FC's stadium was in Wales".
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No issue last season when Chester played in front of 2k in December, whilst Welsh football was behind close doors. Chester wont receive any money from Welsh government having if they play behind close doors. No reason for them not to continue like normal
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Absolute busybody, jobsworth mentality from the Welsh council there. They either need to support them and give them funding towards the fact they have to play behind closed doors, or acknowledge the fact that despite the ground being on Welsh territory, it is governed by English law as the English council police the games and the club is part of the English FA10
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Well, that’s the thing with countries. They begin and end somewhere.SporadicAddick said:This is where it is all a bit preposterous, but I suppose you have to draw the line (literally) somewhere.
2,000 fans could legally stand in close proximity in the stadium car park, but cant walk 100 yards and spread out more safely on open terraces.
Devolution was one of Blair's many legacies. It has resulted in parish councillors like Drakeford running countries and implementing policy for the sake of differentiation. This is the man that ordered supermarkets to close aisles to prevent people from buying coats last winter.
There should be no borders, everyone should be free to go where they want.9 -
In the middle of the night just move that dotted line to run the other side of the ground. Simples.9
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There should certainly be no borders within the UK (as much as Sturgeon would want one). Nation states and their borders exist for a reason. Even where some countries choice to suspend their borders (e.g Schengen) the external borders are maintained, and periodically the open borders are suspended, and rightly so. With complete freedom as you suggest the world would be plunged into chaos and disorder.iainment said:
Well, that’s the thing with countries. They begin and end somewhere.SporadicAddick said:This is where it is all a bit preposterous, but I suppose you have to draw the line (literally) somewhere.
2,000 fans could legally stand in close proximity in the stadium car park, but cant walk 100 yards and spread out more safely on open terraces.
Devolution was one of Blair's many legacies. It has resulted in parish councillors like Drakeford running countries and implementing policy for the sake of differentiation. This is the man that ordered supermarkets to close aisles to prevent people from buying coats last winter.
There should be no borders, everyone should be free to go where they want.
Anyway, a bit deep for a discussion on twatty welsh councils looking to make a name for themselves.2 -
Invade, hang the leaders and subjugate them once and for all.4
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Seen so much of this nonsense, with a head office in Cardiff. Good job Chester races take place in the summer...0
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They built the stadium in Wales so they could qualify for European competition via the Welsh cup. Then the following year they got banned 😂😂9
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Send English troops in to capture the land where the football club is located, and declare English sovereignty over itSporadicAddick said:This is where it is all a bit preposterous, but I suppose you have to draw the line (literally) somewhere.
2,000 fans could legally stand in close proximity in the stadium car park, but cant walk 100 yards and spread out more safely on open terraces.
Devolution was one of Blair's many legacies. It has resulted in parish councillors like Drakeford running countries and implementing policy for the sake of differentiation. This is the man that ordered supermarkets to close aisles to prevent people from buying coats last winter.
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Time to get out the longbows.0
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I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules.addick1956 said:It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.
What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve parked and drank like mad and went back.
Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England.
Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules.
Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England.2 -
2,000 supporters can stand in the car park of the stadium (in England) and can watch the game on screens, but the Welsh authorities would prevent those 2,000 fans from walking 100 yards (into Wales) and disperse on open terracing where social distancing could be adhered to.se9addick said:
I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules.addick1956 said:It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.
What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve parked and drank like mad and went back.
Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England.
Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules.
Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England.
If they stopped them doing so, then it would be a de facto political decision overriding any consideration of public health.1 -
Llanymynech Golf Club.
You tee off in England (Oswestry) and after the 5th hole you are in Wales.1 -
Right, because English rules/laws apply in England and Welsh rules/laws apply in Wales. Not sure why it’s hard to understand.SporadicAddick said:
2,000 supporters can stand in the car park of the stadium (in England) and can watch the game on screens, but the Welsh authorities would prevent those 2,000 fans from walking 100 yards (into Wales) and disperse on open terracing where social distancing could be adhered to.se9addick said:
I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules.addick1956 said:It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.
What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve parked and drank like mad and went back.
Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England.
Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules.
Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England.
If they stopped them doing so, then it would be a de facto political decision overriding any consideration of public health.1 -
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Funnily enough I get that - I'm just pointing out the nonsense of the situation, and the farcical consequences of devolution of power to incompetent political pointscorers.se9addick said:
Right, because English rules/laws apply in England and Welsh rules/laws apply in Wales. Not sure why it’s hard to understand.SporadicAddick said:
2,000 supporters can stand in the car park of the stadium (in England) and can watch the game on screens, but the Welsh authorities would prevent those 2,000 fans from walking 100 yards (into Wales) and disperse on open terracing where social distancing could be adhered to.se9addick said:
I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules.addick1956 said:It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.
What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve parked and drank like mad and went back.
Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England.
Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules.
Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England.
If they stopped them doing so, then it would be a de facto political decision overriding any consideration of public health.
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Most, or many, long bow archers in the English armies were Welsh.SomervilleAddick said:Time to get out the longbows.1 -
TNS, who's ground is in England, have been told they must play there games behind closed doors because everyone else is......5
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Apart from the French......and Novac Johavich!
iainment said:
Well, that’s the thing with countries. They begin and end somewhere.SporadicAddick said:This is where it is all a bit preposterous, but I suppose you have to draw the line (literally) somewhere.
2,000 fans could legally stand in close proximity in the stadium car park, but cant walk 100 yards and spread out more safely on open terraces.
Devolution was one of Blair's many legacies. It has resulted in parish councillors like Drakeford running countries and implementing policy for the sake of differentiation. This is the man that ordered supermarkets to close aisles to prevent people from buying coats last winter.
There should be no borders, everyone should be free to go where they want.0 -
This is an easy problem to solve: reinstate Offa's Dyke as the true border between England and that other lot. (It was built for a reason.) The only snag is that we'd also get Wrexham.
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I was looking at a pub for sale that is in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, but on the Welsh side of the border 🤷♂️0
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Iirc Chester actually actively wanted to have part of the ground in Wales because back in the day the Welsh FA Cup winners got a European place as long as the ground was in Wales. The likes of Chester, Hereford and Shrewsbury were allowed to be in the competition but couldn't bag the European spot.1
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I was sympathetic to their argument until I read this at the end of an article on deeside.com
” The Deva Stadium border issue made the headlines earlier in the pandemic when Chester’s Storyhouse said their Halloween Drive-in cinema would have to be cancelled as the toilets for the event were on the Welsh side.Wales at a time when there was a ‘firebreak’ lockdown and there were restrictions with people crossing the border into and out of Wales.
Temporary toilets were brought in and situated on the English side of the border.”
So if Chester’s Storyhouse” knew the stadium fell under Welsh jurisdiction, I’m sure Chester FC did
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