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MATCH THREAD [+post-match p21]: Hartlepool vs Charlton | Papa John's Trophy | Tuesday 25th Jan 2022
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Sadly I have to say I totally agree.ricky_otto said:
I’d send Leko and Lee back to their clubs. They have been pony for weeks.Hartleypete said:So many thick as shit players, Watson, Leko, Lee for staters.
As a team we simply can’t mark or find a decent forward pass. We are not a team we are a bunch of blokes that have been put together like they have never met before.
WTF is going on at our club
I watched the youth team win their game in the FA youth cup the other night and honestly there are some kids in that team who would do better than these 2 jokers.0 -
This team can't put teams away.......2-1 up and in the ascendancy and then just put in a shit 2nd half performance0
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Good luck to Hartlepool for the rest of the season and particularly this weekend
completely outfought us and should have been out of sight, would have been a robbery if we had nicked it
fair play to the 285 hope those staying up have a good night 🍺
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We won’t win a game without Dobson, is my wager
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Season was already over... if we won the tournament, it would have been no more than a good day out at Wembley on the piss and I'd probably never have mentioned it to anyone after unless I was being facetiousflyingkiwiDK said:and thus ends our shower of shit season. Absolute shambles0 -
I’m not sure, I reckon some bright spark might correct me, but this could, I say could , be the furthest we’ve gone in the pizza trophy to date.JamesSeed said:Awful performance. One of those where you think we need a major clear out. We were outplayed by a League Two outfit that had a few players who seemed better than ours. Can't think of any pluses from the game.0 -
Would've been nice to get to Wembley, but i think most of us are more pissed off with the performance than going out of the pizza cup.AFKABartram said:You’ve gotta laugh really.
we have sunk to such a level of shiteness that we are all genuinely disappointed we’ve flopped out of what is widely seen as a laughing stock of a competition. One that the team 17th in League 2 rested players in.
I thought we were past the days of summer clear outs, but it feels like we need another fucking overhaul.
Realistically we need to sign 2 wingbacks, a centre back (Inniss won't last a season, Pearce not good enough), a DM as cover for Dobson, 2 attacking midfielders (1 to play, 1 as backup) and perhaps even another striker.3 -
I'm fairly sure 99% of fans want us to win every game10
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So little quality in our team and they just look completely disorganised. Our defending was shocking and we can barely string two passes together.cabbles said:Putting the irrelevance of the competition aside, just watching what was a team full of a lot of ‘first team’ players, we are an absolute woeful, woeful outfit.
I genuinely don’t know how people can see green shoots in amongst this lot. To the fans that went, that was a pretty insulting performance. Surely the time has come for those amongst us to get real about a lot of these players. Stop kidding yourselves that Gilbey, Lee, Famewo, Leko, CBT, Morgan, Washington and many others are players capable of competing for promotion.Hartlepool absolutely deserved to go through, they were much the better side in the second half. You can clutch at straws and say Dobson in for Watson gives us a bit more bite in midfield, but it’s a strain to watch this turgid crap that these players have served up most of this season.
It has to be a huge clear out in the summer. I’m bored of my own repetitive posts on here when I keep repeating that, but I cannot see how people can hang onto the fact that ‘there might still be a player in Albie Morgan’ or ‘if Gilbey had better players alongside him’ etc etc.
Pathetic team.
Could maybe do with a change in formation as well. Don’t think we’ve got the personnel for the 3-5-2 Jackson wants to play. Just feels like we’ve been worked out now.Big problems, very little on the horizon in terms of solutions, lots of questions
I hope they are embarrassed.1 -
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I’m watching Birmingham now and the Standard of football in this league is just as bad Players can’t pass or Control0
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Disappointing but, in truth, the better team went through. There were too many sub-standard performances across the Charlton side and a neutral would most certainly not have thought that these teams were a division apart. The amount of space we afforded Hartlepool in our final third, particularly in the second half, beggared belief and we eventually paid the price.
Good luck to Hartlepool in the semis and at Palace.
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Well said, agreed.Southendaddick said:Good luck to Hartlepool for the rest of the season and particularly this weekend
completely outfought us and should have been out of sight, would have been a robbery if we had nicked it
fair play to the 285 hope those staying up have a good night 🍺1 -
Sorry peeps,I sort of feel part responsible for that awful shower of shite display…littleun wanted a pizza,so the Mrs done the Uber delivery thing…Domino’s turned up…2 for 1 Tuesday ain’t it…,only good thing that came out of tonight,I got a large Meateor tomoz night as my extra one…😋😋1
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Defence looked a shambles, midfield very predictable,...win ball, pass sideways for a bit, then back and a hoof forward from a defender. Lose possession and start again. Recycling the same pattern endlessly, so boring to watch and easy to defend against. No incisive forward passing or running at defenders from midfield. Genuinely awful performance, another tenner wasted, feel so sorry for those who travelled.3
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Fleetwood were one of the worst teams we've played this season. They are losing 3-1 at home to Plymouth tonight.DDOUBLEE said:We've been absolutely f**king dreadful in every game since Jackson got the job permanently, yes, we won Saturday, but we weren't exactly good then either.
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They won't be.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
So little quality in our team and they just look completely disorganised. Our defending was shocking and we can barely string two passes together.cabbles said:Putting the irrelevance of the competition aside, just watching what was a team full of a lot of ‘first team’ players, we are an absolute woeful, woeful outfit.
I genuinely don’t know how people can see green shoots in amongst this lot. To the fans that went, that was a pretty insulting performance. Surely the time has come for those amongst us to get real about a lot of these players. Stop kidding yourselves that Gilbey, Lee, Famewo, Leko, CBT, Morgan, Washington and many others are players capable of competing for promotion.Hartlepool absolutely deserved to go through, they were much the better side in the second half. You can clutch at straws and say Dobson in for Watson gives us a bit more bite in midfield, but it’s a strain to watch this turgid crap that these players have served up most of this season.
It has to be a huge clear out in the summer. I’m bored of my own repetitive posts on here when I keep repeating that, but I cannot see how people can hang onto the fact that ‘there might still be a player in Albie Morgan’ or ‘if Gilbey had better players alongside him’ etc etc.
Pathetic team.
Could maybe do with a change in formation as well. Don’t think we’ve got the personnel for the 3-5-2 Jackson wants to play. Just feels like we’ve been worked out now.Big problems, very little on the horizon in terms of solutions, lots of questions
I hope they are embarrassed.0 -
Spec savers moment for me, I read that and thought I don’t remember many Maradona quotes, then I thought he didn’t sing either!!!🤣Solidgone said:Absolute embarrassment on the standard shown. Those so called professional players should give up their day job. Be honest with themselves and say that it would be better to make a honest living being a Plummer/sparky or whatever. I’ve seen better standard of football displayed on Hackney marshes on a cold Sunday morning! Its not the losing that pisses me off, but i do question what makes a professional footballer that can’t pass the ball, that cant be aware of players, that can’t be bothered to block shots, cant control a ball, just hoofs it up hoping for the best. As Madonna says, Papa don’t preach we’re in trouble boy (or something like that as Madonna is shyte too!).1 -
Worth remembering Hartlepool are unbeaten in this and the FA Cup this season.
They've beaten
CharltonBlackpoolLincoln
Wycombe
BoltonSheffield Wednesday
Morecambe
We're a middling team in that selection.7 -
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I've been worried for several games that we're becoming far too predictable. Jacko may change the names, but the opponents know our formation, indeed Jacko confirmed it on Charlton TV beforehand...Which makes it really easy to set up against us.
AND we hardly ever seem to change things. Swap the wing backs, swap the strikers, swap the midfielders, but we hardly ever change the system to counter the opposition. Pools had a crazy number of shots tonight, yet we did nothing about it.4 -
They played some lovely, free flowing football. Totally out played us. They were helped by the fact Morgan and Watson left their midfield to do whatever they wished and our defence stood off them so much they could line up their passes and shots with ease and time to spare but credit where it is due, they played decent stuff.Wheresmeticket? said:Didn't hear much about pools using dodgy tactics so I guess they played a fair game?
When we won the ball back we simply pumped it long and down the channels.
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I've no issue with people disagreeing with meaddick1956 said:
Sadly he is right.ForeverAddickted said:
Chortle... So whitty - Grow the hell upsam3110 said:
Is your full username Forever Addickted to spouting drivel?!ForeverAddickted said:
Its pathetic though the reactionCroydon said:
What do you expect? The one chance this season had to redeem itself, and we've been outplayed by a team 16th in the league below us. This season has been a fucking shambles from start to finish and fans have every right to be angry.ForeverAddickted said:Yay... Here comes the childish abuse, for a competition no one wanted us to be in prior to the first game
Even more so when you look back at that first Group game
No one gives a shit about this competition, so dont pretend to suddenly care when we get somewhere - Either give a shit from the beginning, or not at all
Jackson was the one that was talking up this game, the cup and his players, and they haven't turned up.
Doesn't matter if supporters gave a shit about this game or not, the players are the ones who need to give a shit, and they clearly didn't, and that's not good enough, wherever the game is played and whatever competition it's in
Just a shame that @Sam3110 has to resort to the childish comment I highlighted
Still waiting for his response on that...2 -
I give up. We are league one, and should stay up. I don't think we are going anywhere for many years to come, unless TS gives up in 22/23 or 23/24 and we drop down.2
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Credit to Hartlepool but we were very poor tonight. Aneke getting booked again is just bonkers. Feel a bit sorry for Lee because he will get it in spades but once again our defence was pitiful.3
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Well I really enjoyed that. End to end excitement with no shortage of skill on display.Could have gone either way and their keeper was probably MoM.Lee unlucky with the penalty - I think the ball must have wobbled on the spot - but all credit for a worldie from their keeper - as I said MoM for me.If we can take that form to the league I fancy us for a play-off.Nurse! NURSE!!! I think my missus must have spiked the haggis.14
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Agreed. And ask any Spurs or Arsenal fan what they think about going out in the semis of the EFL Cup.up_the_valley said:
A cup is a cup. Any trophy is worth winning at Wembley. You sound like any Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea fan claiming the League Cup is pointless, yet as soon as they get to Wembley in the final its all hands on deck! Perspective is needed. This is our level for now and a cup we have a chance of winning.golfaddick said:I say it every season we are in League 1 - I hate this competition & haven't seen a single game since the Prem teams entered into it. Waste of time0 -
Yup. Been saying this for months. Nail on head.cabbles said:Putting the irrelevance of the competition aside, just watching what was a team full of a lot of ‘first team’ players, we are an absolute woeful, woeful outfit.
I genuinely don’t know how people can see green shoots in amongst this lot. To the fans that went, that was a pretty insulting performance. Surely the time has come for those amongst us to get real about a lot of these players. Stop kidding yourselves that Gilbey, Lee, Famewo, Leko, CBT, Morgan, Washington and many others are players capable of competing for promotion.Hartlepool absolutely deserved to go through, they were much the better side in the second half. You can clutch at straws and say Dobson in for Watson gives us a bit more bite in midfield, but it’s a strain to watch this turgid crap that these players have served up most of this season.
It has to be a huge clear out in the summer. I’m bored of my own repetitive posts on here when I keep repeating that, but I cannot see how people can hang onto the fact that ‘there might still be a player in Albie Morgan’ or ‘if Gilbey had better players alongside him’ etc etc.
Pathetic team.
Could maybe do with a change in formation as well. Don’t think we’ve got the personnel for the 3-5-2 Jackson wants to play. Just feels like we’ve been worked out now.Big problems, very little on the horizon in terms of solutions, lots of questions1 -
Now this distraction is out of the way we can concentrate on the important business stuttering to 12th in league one over the remainder of the season. COYA!!!1
