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Mason Burstow - on loan to Bolton from Hull (p53)

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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    There really is little joy in supporting this club at the moment.

    If we've got a decent fee compared to letting the likes of Aribo go for free then great.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    I’m hearing Brighton.
  • fmaddick
    fmaddick Posts: 182
    Add me to the list of the ‘not that bothered’, assuming we get a decent fee (which for me is only around 2m, plus serious add ons)

    He’s so new to all this that it’s hard to be too upset - look at the tens of players who played at a much higher level at his age, only to burn out. I hope he doesn’t but this is probably as likely as him becoming the next Lookman etc
  • masicat said:
    I’m hearing Brighton.
    Bending us over at the moment arent they if true
  • CAFCTrev said:
    FFS, can we not even get a full season from a youth prospect anymore??
    This. A million times over. 

    We all know that he was bound to go soon but when we can't keep a young prospect for more than a few months it is all becoming pointless. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    Aneke picks up an injury tonight we're stuck with Washington only. 
    And if Washington and Aneke run into each other tonight we'll have to get Jason Euell out of retirement
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Prem interest. Feck. 
  • Lets stop talking about the fee for a moment and broach a more serious question

    Do we retire Mason's shirt number if he leaves?
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited January 2022
    UEAAddick said:
    Lookman was £8m from League One so expecting more than that. 
    Wasnt it £11m? - Plus he had Championship experience.
    Yh I can't see Burstow being that sort of figure, because he hasn't played as much and it has all been in League 1
    Yeah people are in dreamland expecting an eight figure sum.

    Biggest fees paid for League One players...

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3
    Then say no. 

    If it's not multiple millions it isn't 'substantial'. 
    How easy is it to reject £2m or £5m at this level, and then watch Burstow get a career ending injury against Wimbledon?
    Sorry but that's bonkers reasoning. That means everyone should sell their players for peanuts just in case they get an injury over the next few matches? 2mil would be an insult. We can't expect a Lookman figure but we shouldn't be accepting less than 3/4 plus add ons. 

    For what it's worth I've got no issue with selling young players if you get a good fee and the money gets reinvested. But selling him now with Stockley injured would be a bit mental given he's in the first team squad. Maybe we can get Kanu into the first team squad and then sell him over the summer (if he's even signed a contract). 

    This club never fails to disappoint to be honest. But we're going absolutely nowhere so I won't blame Burstow one bit if he moves on. 
    Guess its just me that doesnt see £2m or £5m as peanuts for a League One player.
    5mil isn't, but 2mil wouldn't be great. Generally, it's not peanuts for a League One player but he's only 18, not an experienced League 1 player like Washington. Obviously we need to see what happened but it's just typical. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    cafctom said:
    Am I the only one who just isn’t that bothered?

    And I don’t mean that in a passive aggressive way, but genuinely just not that fussed.

    He’s a good prospect, but I don’t think he’s the world beater some have made him out to be, despite the goals he’s scored.

    We would always lose him at some point, and I’d hedge my bets that this is likely to be a mid-table season anyway.

    Of course I’d wish him the best of luck and would hope he does well.

    But I just don’t really feel much emotional connection to it the way I have done on previous sales, for some reason 🤷‍♂️
    Dont see the point in getting angry over anything to do with Football anymore.

    Used to get into endless arguments on here after a bad result because I'd get worked up - Someone oin here replied to a post of mine and told me to chill out, and stop getting so angry - Having a swear | rant | argument aint going to change anything.
    I’ve taught you well Grasshopper 😉
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,148
    edited January 2022
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    Sandgaard says two bids and neither have met our valuation.

    Suspect we've allowed Mason to talk to the clubs based on the fact that we expect a bid to come in before the deadline that will meet our valuation.
  • Aneke picks up an injury tonight we're stuck with Washington only. 
    And if Washington and Aneke run into each other tonight we'll have to get Jason Euell out of retirement
    Miles Leaburn might get a game. Indeed Carlo might be needed
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Heard Arsenal n all
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    Dazzler21 said:
    He's gone. 

    So much for not selling our rising stars. 

    Bet the fee will be risable. 
    No-one ever said this.
    Wasn't one of the positives that we would be able to hold onto prospects and demand a better fee? 

    This just calls back to the Roland days of shipping a youth player out the moment a bid comes in. 
    We've not even had a fee suggested and people are comparing Sandgaard to Roland!
    The deadline day sale of a top prospect does seem to ring a bell from Roland yes. 
    We’ve been doing this for decades. Way before Roland. Parker and Reid come immediately to mind, albeit Reid wasn’t a “prospect”. 
    Thats not correct in Parker’s case. Chelsea moved in early. The entire club fought tooth and nail for almost the entire window to keep Parker, and at least finally got Putin, sorry, Abramovic to pay full whack. 
    We still sold him at the end of the transfer window. 
    After he refused point blank to play any more. And let's remember he was way older and more experienced than Burstow at the time, and had already thrown his toys out of the pram a season earlier when there was talk of a bid. 

    234 minutes of League One football. That's all we will have seen of Mason Burstow. What's the point of the academy system when this shit happens? 

    Well the Q&A with Thomas will make for interesting listening. I'll certainly have questions....
  • Sandgaard says two bids and neither have met our valuation.

    Suspect we've allowed Mason to talk to the clubs based on the fact that we expect a bid to come in before the deadline that will meet our valuation.
    Where has Sandgaard said this? - That tweet seems to try and contradict what Cawley and Jackson have said. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,247
    What gets up my nose with this 

    Not one premier league side is so impoverished and desperate for an 18 year old centre forward they can't behave themselves better in the January window. 

    Not one of us has a right to blame Mason Burstow who seems like a lovely kid but all this "he could get a career ending injury next week" is flannell. How often does that happen? 

    I'll be gutted when he goes because he's good I suppose at least we aren't selling him in the middle of a battle either end if the table. But we now have no other strikers having rightly let Josh go and get some minutes elsewhere 

    I'd love us to temper the predictable last day of the window loss of one of our better players by announcing the sneaky signing of Mandron, Oliver, Bishop or Matt Stevens but in reality we just need to get deals done ready to announce in the summer 
  • Sandgaard says two bids and neither have met our valuation.

    Suspect we've allowed Mason to talk to the clubs based on the fact that we expect a bid to come in before the deadline that will meet our valuation.
    Where has Sandgaard said this? - That tweet seems to try and contradict what Cawley and Jackson have said. 
    Alex Crook is on Talksport
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  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
    Come and watch Charlton and see the premier league stars of the future for 5 games. 
  • So Jackson tells Sky that Burstow is talking to a club but Sandgaard tells Jim White they haven't met our valuation.

    How's he allowed to talk to a club if we haven't accepted a bid?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Carter said:
    What gets up my nose with this 

    Not one premier league side is so impoverished and desperate for an 18 year old centre forward they can't behave themselves better in the January window. 

    Not one of us has a right to blame Mason Burstow who seems like a lovely kid but all this "he could get a career ending injury next week" is flannell. How often does that happen? 

    I'll be gutted when he goes because he's good I suppose at least we aren't selling him in the middle of a battle either end if the table. But we now have no other strikers having rightly let Josh go and get some minutes elsewhere 

    I'd love us to temper the predictable last day of the window loss of one of our better players by announcing the sneaky signing of Mandron, Oliver, Bishop or Matt Stevens but in reality we just need to get deals done ready to announce in the summer 
    Josh Parker’s available 
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    You would think Charlton are in a strong bargaining position (relatively speaking) here. No premiership team needs an 18 year old who's only scored 2 league goals and only played 4 hours of league football. Therefore the only reason there's bids are coming in today is because the bidding clubs think the price will rise significantly if they wait til the summer. That means we can stick to our price now, and wait for an acceptable bid.
  • I know there’s a bit of a penchant for bringing back former players back, I hear Josh Parkers available..
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    Easy to say when we’re not writing the cheques but this is hugely disappointing after only a handful of games.

    If there is no loan back for the rest of the season, it leaves us with only Washington and Aneke as strikers at present and the hope that neither or both pick up an injury. With just 5 points above the drop zone, I hope that we don’t find ourselves sucked into a dogfight, which I fear is a real possibility.


  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    If Sandgaard expects him to stay he should be at the fucking ground and on the pitch!

    Simple.  Just say no!
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    Fact is, he's not a youth player walking away after years of coaching. It might actually help persuade players like Kanu to sign up, as we won't stand in the way of moving on if a fair offer is made. Be gutted to see him leave so soon, but hopefully we have another forward lined up to replace him and spend a bit more $$
  • I know there’s a bit of a penchant for bringing back former players back, I hear Josh Parkers available..
    Always gave 100% which I more than can be said for a lot of our current squad
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    This transfer, assuming it happens, will show our other academy prospects the value (in every sense) of first team football exposure. Should make getting them to sign their contacts that much easier.