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Post Match thread: Charlton Athletic vs Sunderland | Saturday 5th March 2022
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Not sure why Burstow is still getting in the team. Injuries yes but he won't be here next season and just my opinion but I can't see the potential. Obviously there's something Chelsea have identified and hope the lad goes on to do really well being a local Charlton lad/fan. Really hope Washington is back next week or maybe try Kanu?2
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"some posters are disappointed when we don't lose just because they can't say I told you so."colthe3rd said:
Have I made anything up about other people? Go back and read it again.Cafc43v3r said:
So it's OK for you to make things up about other people. Hypocrisy at its best.colthe3rd said:
How do you explain those who only have negative comments after a result like that? Absolutely it's possible to say that we didn't play that well, lack of goal threat etc. But there are undoubtedly some positives to take against a team who are coming off a very good win and are challenging for playoffs.Cafc43v3r said:
Really?colthe3rd said:Certainly feels as though some posters are disappointed when we don't lose just because they can't say I told you so.
We had this last season. No one, absolutely no one, wants us to lose just to say I told you so.
You know what's even worse than that hypothetical situation? People accusing other people of wanting us to lose for some strange little game they have made up in their own little, warped mind. It's pathetic.
Also thanks for your diagnosis of my mental health Dr Freud. Stay classy.
No one is negative about the result. People are rightly or wrongly not overly enthusiastic about the performance.
Before the match I said Stewart would be licking his lips playing against Pearce and Gunter. What do you think I would have preferred, him scoring the chances he missed and saying "I told you so" or him missing them and us getting a point?
I'm also not attempting to label anyone with things like "pathetic" or saying they have "warped minds". That's all you so don't try and deflect.1 -
With respect, we actually looked a like a team. Not enough quality to trouble Sunderland but there was some graft & togetherness...however you look at the point, it is a platform. Biggest challenge is building on it and showing consistency.Gribbo said:8 -
We were pretty awful but we fought hard. Having Stockley back made a difference.
Sunderland wasted a lot of headers.1 -
Still very poor creatively, our passing was terrible. No shots on target at home is rubbish really.
We were poor defensively in the first half too, Stewart should have scored from one of the free headers he had - poor marking by Lavelle, though not all down to him.
In the second half we did improve though, with better marking at set pieces, and a number of good blocks. We still relied on McG to make a number of good saves though.
I'm happy with the point, but the game did show why Sunderland have struggled this year2 -
I have dropped a line to Thomas to see what he can do about the weather, or the possibility of installing heated seats and will let you know if I get a reply. He’s gotta take some responsibility!golfaddick said:
You weren't there mate so pipe down.Scoham said:
It was cold, boring & insipid. Too much more of that & you can sell my seat to some other mug.7 -
Nothing to do with the game at all...masicat said:I don’t know what the whole question is, but the answer is VARNEY as Chairman. We should be begging him. Then, Saandgard take his son and his bloody guitar and let the professionals get the job done.3 -
Is it fuck, it’s a dumpJamesSeed said:
Quite a nice part of the world. Lovely coastline. Whitburn’s very pretty.ricky_otto said:
All good points - then you realise you live in Sunderland.balham red said:Assessment from Sunderland forum:
"Bitterly disappointing, that we couldn't comfortably beat, an absolute pile of dogshit."
"You can see why these are where they are mind. They are absolutely woeful."
"Even by League One standards, this is a whole different level of pathetic from Charlton."
"These are f***ing shocking"
"These are awful like"1 -
Good 👍golfaddick said:
You weren't there mate so pipe down.Scoham said:
It was cold, boring & insipid. Too much more of that & you can sell my seat to some other mug.0 -
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I'd try him in midfield. We are so weak therepaulg1947 said:Now something to build on, but where does Clare fit in, now that he will be available2 -
You've cut a significant part of that quote off. Try again pal.Cafc43v3r said:
"some posters are disappointed when we don't lose just because they can't say I told you so."colthe3rd said:
Have I made anything up about other people? Go back and read it again.Cafc43v3r said:
So it's OK for you to make things up about other people. Hypocrisy at its best.colthe3rd said:
How do you explain those who only have negative comments after a result like that? Absolutely it's possible to say that we didn't play that well, lack of goal threat etc. But there are undoubtedly some positives to take against a team who are coming off a very good win and are challenging for playoffs.Cafc43v3r said:
Really?colthe3rd said:Certainly feels as though some posters are disappointed when we don't lose just because they can't say I told you so.
We had this last season. No one, absolutely no one, wants us to lose just to say I told you so.
You know what's even worse than that hypothetical situation? People accusing other people of wanting us to lose for some strange little game they have made up in their own little, warped mind. It's pathetic.
Also thanks for your diagnosis of my mental health Dr Freud. Stay classy.
No one is negative about the result. People are rightly or wrongly not overly enthusiastic about the performance.
Before the match I said Stewart would be licking his lips playing against Pearce and Gunter. What do you think I would have preferred, him scoring the chances he missed and saying "I told you so" or him missing them and us getting a point?
I'm also not attempting to label anyone with things like "pathetic" or saying they have "warped minds". That's all you so don't try and deflect.1 -
Would take a draw all day long after the run we’ve been on.3
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We drew.
Not totally convincingly but we didn't lose.
We were second best but there was a lot more fight, perhaps because Pearce and Stockley were back, and confidence grew the longer the game went
on.
And we almost nicked a 94th minute winner. As if that could happen v Sunderland.
Man of the Match DJ. Rarely got forward but stuck to his defensive role really well.6 -
Certainly feels means you do feel. Doesn't change the meaning. Sorry pal.colthe3rd said:
You've cut a significant part of that quote off. Try again pal.Cafc43v3r said:
"some posters are disappointed when we don't lose just because they can't say I told you so."colthe3rd said:
Have I made anything up about other people? Go back and read it again.Cafc43v3r said:
So it's OK for you to make things up about other people. Hypocrisy at its best.colthe3rd said:
How do you explain those who only have negative comments after a result like that? Absolutely it's possible to say that we didn't play that well, lack of goal threat etc. But there are undoubtedly some positives to take against a team who are coming off a very good win and are challenging for playoffs.Cafc43v3r said:
Really?colthe3rd said:Certainly feels as though some posters are disappointed when we don't lose just because they can't say I told you so.
We had this last season. No one, absolutely no one, wants us to lose just to say I told you so.
You know what's even worse than that hypothetical situation? People accusing other people of wanting us to lose for some strange little game they have made up in their own little, warped mind. It's pathetic.
Also thanks for your diagnosis of my mental health Dr Freud. Stay classy.
No one is negative about the result. People are rightly or wrongly not overly enthusiastic about the performance.
Before the match I said Stewart would be licking his lips playing against Pearce and Gunter. What do you think I would have preferred, him scoring the chances he missed and saying "I told you so" or him missing them and us getting a point?
I'm also not attempting to label anyone with things like "pathetic" or saying they have "warped minds". That's all you so don't try and deflect.0 -
Personally, I don’t think I would’ve been as angry as I have been in previous weeks, but I see where you’re coming from.FishCostaFortune said:
I would like to believe that, I really do, but I honestly think if Sunderland had won that 1-0 (which they really could have) there wouldn’t be as many people praising the fight of the team then.cabbles said:
Yes. Pleased in the sense it’s his first full time job as manager, has inherited a largely poor squad and has been without a forward line for the 3 or 4 games. Do I think he’s absolved of any responsibility as a result of the recent run? No.RaplhMilne said:Pleased for Jackson..? Today is a very limp plaster over the gaping wound that is a very shit squad being, in the most part badly managed across the board.However, he cares. He’s someone that gave 110% in the shirt and will give a 110% as manager.5 successive defeats can really crush the spirit. Despite us still not scoring in 7 hours, today we worked harder. It’s the least we can expect, but when it’s been missing and you see it come back into the team, in isolation, today I’ll give them some credit for that.DJ a good example. I don’t think he’s that good, however, he was getting stuck in today and Sunderland built a lot of decent attacks down their left. Had we got the sort of performance we had against Oxford, we could’ve easily capitulated again.I’m not going to suddenly believe this mob have turned a corner, but I won’t dig out their fight todayThis works both ways. I’ve watched a lot games this season where we win, and I think, people are giving them too much praise for what have been pretty average performances.2 -
Can’t fault the effort and the single fact we are not now OTT slitting wrists over the next couple of days on another defeat I suspect a huge plus. But it was a tough watch at times The biggest cheer we got in the first half was when a clearance hit the East Stand roof.
It was noticebly improved by having Shockley back, but we still never looked like scoring. Barstow had our only non-set piece effort and it was pretty painful. If he was playing with instinct he would have took it first time and lifted it over the keeper. If he was playing with confidence he would have took another touch or two. He did neither and showed the signs of someone clearly not ready for this yet.
Elsewhere, the keeper did well and I thought DJ put a shift in. Fraser looked considerably short of match fitness. Not too much else to highlight, Sunderland should be asking real questions on how they didn’t capitalise on a clearly limited back 3.7 -
Played like the away team sitting back hoping to hit them on the counter ..nick one on a set piece and hitting Stockley..not enjoyable0
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I will also add, Sunderland should’ve finished us off.cabbles said:
Personally, I don’t think I would’ve been as angry as I have been in previous weeks, but I see where you’re coming from.FishCostaFortune said:
I would like to believe that, I really do, but I honestly think if Sunderland had won that 1-0 (which they really could have) there wouldn’t be as many people praising the fight of the team then.cabbles said:
Yes. Pleased in the sense it’s his first full time job as manager, has inherited a largely poor squad and has been without a forward line for the 3 or 4 games. Do I think he’s absolved of any responsibility as a result of the recent run? No.RaplhMilne said:Pleased for Jackson..? Today is a very limp plaster over the gaping wound that is a very shit squad being, in the most part badly managed across the board.However, he cares. He’s someone that gave 110% in the shirt and will give a 110% as manager.5 successive defeats can really crush the spirit. Despite us still not scoring in 7 hours, today we worked harder. It’s the least we can expect, but when it’s been missing and you see it come back into the team, in isolation, today I’ll give them some credit for that.DJ a good example. I don’t think he’s that good, however, he was getting stuck in today and Sunderland built a lot of decent attacks down their left. Had we got the sort of performance we had against Oxford, we could’ve easily capitulated again.I’m not going to suddenly believe this mob have turned a corner, but I won’t dig out their fight todayThis works both ways. I’ve watched a lot games this season where we win, and I think, people are giving them too much praise for what have been pretty average performances.0 -
rubbish performance or not, a point against a promotion chaser albeit a team that one, as I have said previously, are our whipping boys, must be encouraging after 5 consecutive losses .. welcome back Lavelle and Stockley, they give our side a nice bit of very welcome determination and muscle3
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This was by far the best performance since the last win and it’s all because Stockley and Pearce were there. Man of the match yet again goes to George Dobson. DJ is a much better tackler than he thinks and thank the lord that Matthews was not playing.5
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Agree about what you say around praising average performances as well.cabbles said:
I will also add, Sunderland should’ve finished us off.cabbles said:
Personally, I don’t think I would’ve been as angry as I have been in previous weeks, but I see where you’re coming from.FishCostaFortune said:
I would like to believe that, I really do, but I honestly think if Sunderland had won that 1-0 (which they really could have) there wouldn’t be as many people praising the fight of the team then.cabbles said:
Yes. Pleased in the sense it’s his first full time job as manager, has inherited a largely poor squad and has been without a forward line for the 3 or 4 games. Do I think he’s absolved of any responsibility as a result of the recent run? No.RaplhMilne said:Pleased for Jackson..? Today is a very limp plaster over the gaping wound that is a very shit squad being, in the most part badly managed across the board.However, he cares. He’s someone that gave 110% in the shirt and will give a 110% as manager.5 successive defeats can really crush the spirit. Despite us still not scoring in 7 hours, today we worked harder. It’s the least we can expect, but when it’s been missing and you see it come back into the team, in isolation, today I’ll give them some credit for that.DJ a good example. I don’t think he’s that good, however, he was getting stuck in today and Sunderland built a lot of decent attacks down their left. Had we got the sort of performance we had against Oxford, we could’ve easily capitulated again.I’m not going to suddenly believe this mob have turned a corner, but I won’t dig out their fight todayThis works both ways. I’ve watched a lot games this season where we win, and I think, people are giving them too much praise for what have been pretty average performances.My point is, I didn’t see any less fight today then I’ve seen since Jackson took over, less intensity for sure, but not less fight (though we will never know if it would have remained that way if we went a goal down).I just feel if we had lost that 1-0, because one of Sunderland’s set piece chances went in, then the general discourse of this thread would be a lot different to what it is now.1 -
Positives = we defended well and kept a clean sheet.
Negatives = 0 shots on target and created very little at all from open play. This against a side who in recent weeks have conceded 2 against Doncaster and Cheltenham, 3 against Lincoln and Wycombe and 6 at Bolton. Wimbledon and Burton also scored against them but we couldn't even create a single shot on target in a home game.
I'm honestly bored watching our games now, i really don't see anything at all that encourages me for next season. We're still playing players i hope won't be here next season, there's no real style of play, it's not as if we're just being unlucky in games. We're just really really average.8 -
It would have been daylight robbery but we had two great chances at the end. And Burstow had a couple of good chances too thinking about it.2
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@Notts_Addick instead of going through laughing at other people's efforts, why don't you have some input?1
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Burstow is a boy playing against men. I'm not so much talking about his age, but the way he plays. That is what it looks like. We really need Washington back quickly.5
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Nice to see a bit of fight. There was a 20 minute or so patch in the second half where we showed some proper intensity, albeit completely lacking in quality.DJ is a much better defender than he is anything else. Stockley makes a big difference and seemed to instil a bit of fight in the rest of them.Surprised at all the negativity on here tbh, we’re a poor league one team looking to safely get to the end of the season, we’re hardly going to be playing anyone off the park with what we’ve got.2
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I reckon his mind has moved on to Stamford Bridge .. taking no risks he DOES NOT want to sustain an injury .. I've said before, he should not be in the teamMuttleyCAFC said:Burstow is a boy playing against men. I'm not so much talking about his age, but the way he plays. That is what it looks like. We really need Washington back quickly.5 -
Missed the first half to watch the Strade Bianche, but glad for the point. What was evident in my opinion -
- the defence is definitely better organized when Pearce plays, despite his lack of pace.- Burstow is not a starter on this team once we get anyone back.- too many misplaced passes from the midfield.2 -
Pleased with the point but God that was awful.
If Sunderland could hit a cows arse with a shovel, we may have been well beaten.
To me other teams look much more hungry and fitter.
Finally what is the point of Leko, he comes on fresh as a daisy and does less work than anyone.2
