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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    what about Sutton united`s manager. would come on the cheap I would guess.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    Scoham said:
    Steve Evans anyone?



    Would rather shit in my hands and clap than have him.

    Goes for Lee Johnson aswell..
  • JohnfromNorfolk
    JohnfromNorfolk Posts: 1,324
    Long shot. Danial Farke.
    Wouldn't mind Chris Powell returning. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Leuth said:
    PWADDICK said:

    Found the odds
    Oh god!! - I know I'd want Warburton, and it probably isnt, but that list almost feels like the League One version of: Pulis | Hughes | Pardew | Hodgson | Allardyce
    Ferguson and Warburton is a good start and Keane would be bantz but the rest, urgh. If we appoint Lee Johnson I'm going to investigate unbuying my season ticket
    No thanks to Ferguson, want someone with longevity, not someone just to get us out of League One

    His record in the Championship is abysmal
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Leuth said:
    PWADDICK said:

    Found the odds
    Oh god!! - I know I'd want Warburton, and it probably isnt, but that list almost feels like the League One version of: Pulis | Hughes | Pardew | Hodgson | Allardyce
    Ferguson and Warburton is a good start and Keane would be bantz but the rest, urgh. If we appoint Lee Johnson I'm going to investigate unbuying my season ticket
    No thanks to Ferguson, want someone with longevity, not someone just to get us out of League One

    His record in the Championship is abysmal
    That's fair. Beale/Duff/some other young coach/manager would as everyone's said be ideal
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Darren Ferguson 4/1
    Mark Warburton 5/1
    Lee Johnson 6/1 (please no)
    Roy Keane 8/1
    Neil Harris 8/1
    Michael Appleton 8/1
    Lee Bowyer 12/1
    Michael Beale 12/1
    Michael Duff 14/1
    John Eustace 14/1
    Rob Page 16/1
    Sean Dyche 16/1
    Mark Bonner 16/1
    Michael Carrick 20/1
    David Unsworth 20/1
    25/1 everyone else


  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,802
    msomerton said:
    what about Sutton united`s manager. would come on the cheap I would guess.
    Matt Gray was mentioned when Adkins went, not sure it's an upgrade though? 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    Leuth said:
    PWADDICK said:

    Found the odds
    Oh god!! - I know I'd want Warburton, and it probably isnt, but that list almost feels like the League One version of: Pulis | Hughes | Pardew | Hodgson | Allardyce
    Ferguson and Warburton is a good start and Keane would be bantz but the rest, urgh. If we appoint Lee Johnson I'm going to investigate unbuying my season ticket
    what if, during the unveiling of Johnson as our new manager, he publicly said that gilbey would be sent to train with the u-23's for the season?
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  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    There are some good, progressive young managers around, like Duff, Bonner and Matt Taylor, but who knows.

    I do, however, think we'll have someone in place within a week. Given the way these things work, it's very likely that potential candidates have been informally sounded out and that a shortlist already exists.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070

    “Obviously the coach is very important. If we can find someone that is a really good coach and can help drive more intensity into the training and drive the right mentality into the players – and a playing style that might not be as stiff , a bit more fluid than what we have right now; maybe be better how we press and formation flexibility etc.

    “We need someone who is a good man-manager and good at keeping the dressing room under control, which was not Johnnie’s problem at all.

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,672
    Jon Bon Jovi is 16 to 1 on Betfair. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    edited May 2022

    Asked if he would appoint a head coach or manager next time, Sandgaard said: “Obviously the coach is very important. If we can find someone that is a really good coach and can help drive more intensity into the training and drive the right mentality into the players – and a playing style that might not be as stiff , a bit more fluid than what we have right now; maybe be better how we press and formation flexibility etc.

    “We need someone who is a good man-manager and good at keeping the dressing room under control, which was not Johnnie’s problem at all.

    “Some people are good coaches and some people are good managers. Ideally we find a combination of people or one person who can give us all those qualities.”



    First paragraph seems like a very succinct way of explaining why Jackson got the boot. 

  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Jon Bon Jovi is 16 to 1 on Betfair. 

    Living on a prey mate. 
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    And as for the article talking about us having a greater probability of promotion if we played a high press... dearie me... how many players have we got with the tactical understanding, spatial awareness, speed or stamina to play a high press from the front.

    This is just trotting out footballing clichés and trend language without actually thinking through any practical detail. No manager is going to come in and convert us into a high press side without making more than 10 new signings. It's so easy to say this stuff.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    the players need to be held responsible aswell that defence on saturday was a shambles and should never play professional football again. 
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,811
    Ted Lasso.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    And as for the article talking about us having a greater probability of promotion if we played a high press... dearie me... how many players have we got with the tactical understanding, spatial awareness, speed or stamina to play a high press from the front.

    This is just trotting out footballing clichés and trend language without actually thinking through any practical detail. No manager is going to come in and convert us into a high press side without making more than 10 new signings. It's so easy to say this stuff.

    Agreed almost like someone has played Football Manager and wants a go for real. 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited May 2022
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    I think I’m switching off for a couple of weeks. I have a longer tether than most but Thomas is not doing himself any favours.

    All that’s needed is thanking Jacko for his time and service. Stop giving your opinion on areas where you are not qualified. I can’t think of a club that has been successful and harmonious where the owner is so vocal about on field matters.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Suspect he will end up at Blackburn, but would love Daniel Farke.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    And as for the article talking about us having a greater probability of promotion if we played a high press... dearie me... how many players have we got with the tactical understanding, spatial awareness, speed or stamina to play a high press from the front.

    This is just trotting out footballing clichés and trend language without actually thinking through any practical detail. No manager is going to come in and convert us into a high press side without making more than 10 new signings. It's so easy to say this stuff.
    Safe to say he is not happy with the fitness stats or the injuries we get.  This has been a problem for a long time.

    I'd say I am disappointed Jacko is gone but not hugely surprised - Saturday was dire and he looked a bit like a dead man walking.  Contrast with Ipswich - when we played them at the Valley they were dreadful.  Poor body language and crap performance.  They were a completely different team this time around and from talking to some of their hierarchy they are absolutely delighted with their new gaffer.  The love his style of play, his personality, his methods.  Everything.  

    Sometimes you need to take a few steps backwards to progress and it seems we need to make a number of appointments and start afresh


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    I think I’m switching off for a couple of weeks. I have a longer tether than most but Thomas is not doing himself any favours.

    All that’s needed is thanking Jacko for his time and service. Stop giving your opinion on areas where you are not qualified. I can’t think of a club that has been successful and harmonious where the owner is so vocal about on field matters.
    have to agree, right decision getting rid of JJ but until reading the above I thought he might have someone already lined-up. If we get close to the beginning of pre season with no appointment then you can write off next season too. Might have to anyway as it seems that yet again we will be signing players and then telling the manager to get on with it. Hasn't worked so far.
  • Beale all day for me. Hopefully. But I can see Thomas doing something slightly left field. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    edited May 2022
    “The process could be relatively short or we might go very close up to pre-season.”

    Sandgaard indicated that even if an appointment is some way down the line it will not affect the club’s recruitment. They also have a number of players – including Conor Washington, Adam Matthews, Ryan Inniss and Ben Purrington – out of contract.

    “The matchday selection of the squad is one thing [that is down to the manager] but the recruitment of players, some of them contracted for many seasons which has been more typical of late, that doesn’t change at all,”  


    Things that make you concerned reading that:

    1. Doesn’t look like we’ve got someone lined up, so potentially ANOTHER summer of indecision and late planning.

    2. It doesn’t sound like TS thinks it’s important that a manager picks his squad. Presumably his son’s word is good enough.

    …oh dear 


  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    That is as much nonsense as when I look in a mirror and think I don't need to lose weight.  Yes we can still sign players but the incoming person still needs to rate them to play them.
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    And as for the article talking about us having a greater probability of promotion if we played a high press... dearie me... how many players have we got with the tactical understanding, spatial awareness, speed or stamina to play a high press from the front.

    This is just trotting out footballing clichés and trend language without actually thinking through any practical detail. No manager is going to come in and convert us into a high press side without making more than 10 new signings. It's so easy to say this stuff.

    Agreed almost like someone has played Football Manager and wants a go for real. 
    My head is literally in my hands. Of course I would love to watch Charlton Athletic play free flowing high press attacking football but we are in League 1 and have one of the most ill-balanced, mediocre and mentally weak groups of players I have seen in 30 years. We are so far away from being able to play a system based on high intensity press it is unreal. It would require millions to implement it properly. Meanwhile in the last 6 months we've spent significant transfer fees on players like Aneke and Fraser who have no place in such a system. 

    As you say, this is Football Manager stuff now and I am absolutely bricking it.
  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 514
    It's easy running a football club so I think the arrogant one will put his son in charge, after all he is heading up everything else.