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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited May 2022
    I think I need a lie down having read these quotes. Whatever anyone thinks of JJ as manager, this is absolute tosh.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-claims-johnnie-jacksons-departure-will-not-affect-charltons-recruitment-plans/
    It’s nonsense, what if the new manager/head coach doesn’t rate an expensive signing?

    What if the player doesn’t fit his system?

    Or what if we miss out on good players because they want to know who the manager/head coach is?

    Can only hope TS has someone lined up and like Adkins they’ll be in place very soon. Jackson was rumoured to be going at the start of this month a while ago so no doubt TS has been thinking about his plans and hopefully having conversations.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Beale is interesting in that his star has waned a bit since the last time he was linked.

    Villa don't look much cop under Gerrard so if he's supposedly "the brains" of the operation, what does that say?
    That the Premier League is (as we've always suspected) a tougher competition than the Scottish Premier League.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,883
    Id have no issue with Appleton. Done okay with Lincoln and ground out some cracking results. Who knows what he would do with a bigger budget as it comes across that not much phases him.
    Warburton would be decent as that is a very experienced guy. The drop in form that QPR had though was extremely poor.
    Michael Beale would be interesting due to his pedigree as a coach. Les Reed was a good coach though......

    Lee Johnson is a massive no. Just a little twat and generally unlikeable. 
    Darren Ferguson is also a no. 



    Personally feel we need experience. Understand Adkins had that but was out the game too long.  
    Opposition fans said the same about bowyer, he got us promoted!!
  • Reading those quotes from TS, confirms my suspicions. The guy is a clown. 

    Not the 2 years of baseless waffle and bullshit he's churned out preceding this then.  Deary me the circus continues.

      
    All the best Johnny you're better off out of the perpetual clown show that is CAFC.


    Making it up as we go along. Who is calling the shots and targeting players in the interim, Gallen and Sandgaard's son?

    And how are we going to convince them to sign and what the vision is when there's no manager lined up yet by inference of that SLP article?

    I'll eat my words if this turns out to be a good move with some rationale well executed strategy to follow but reading that article just feels more "hit n hope". 

    FFS.



  • Leaburn Forever
    Leaburn Forever Posts: 351
    edited May 2022
    Darren Ferguson is favourite at 4/1.  I see Roy Keane is 8/1 ... That would be interesting 😂
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    I think those comments are poorly expressed by Sandgaard but ultimately it boils down to the owner wanting to appoint a manager who plays a certain style. Long-term that's a good thing; lots of teams have a consistent playing philosophy and identify players and managers to suit it so that when one goes you don't have to tear everything up. We did look a bit silly buying players for Bowyer, to then appointing Adkins and playing a LB on the right wing to fit the 4231, to then buying him a load of wingers, to then sacking Adkins and shoving those wingers in at wing-back because Jackson wanted two strikers over everything else. I wish he'd pipe down a bit about the specifics as that's stretching a little further than I'd like to see in the immediate aftermath of a sacking, but we would definitely benefit from a consistent style going forward for both recruitment and manager hiring.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,002
    stonemuse said:
    Michael Beale or Neil Harris for me. 
    So you basically want order in the world, or just want to sit back and watch the world burn on here?
    Yup  :D

    To be fair, I actually think Harris would have a shot of getting us up. But Beale would be the perfect long-term approach. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    If we get Lee Johnson i'm supporting a new football club

    I've just checked how much a season ticket is for Nantwich Town.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,235
    Personally I’d love Farke. Someone mentioned Neil Lennon to me but I think/hope they were taking the piss. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,883
    bobmunro said:
    If we get Lee Johnson i'm supporting a new football club

    I've just checked how much a season ticket is for Nantwich Town.
    You tease! You can't make a statement like that and not say what the cost is!
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    bobmunro said:
    If we get Lee Johnson i'm supporting a new football club

    I've just checked how much a season ticket is for Nantwich Town.
    I've heard Mark Warburton is going to be their next Manager

    Naan-twich Town... GETTIT!!
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,802
    There are lot of sharp u-turns being done on Neil Harris, people were losing their nuts at the thought he would get the job, and I suspect a lot of the affection is built on him slagging his players off on the telly at the weekend. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    bobmunro said:
    If we get Lee Johnson i'm supporting a new football club

    I've just checked how much a season ticket is for Nantwich Town.
    You tease! You can't make a statement like that and not say what the cost is!

    It's about £200 - but that gets a reserved seat in the main (ok, only) stand and free parking.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    What about Neil Warnock - Cmon he's never actually going to retire is he!!
  • Michael Beale or Liam manning 
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited May 2022
    Rothko said:
    There are lot of sharp u-turns being done on Neil Harris, people were losing their nuts at the thought he would get the job, and I suspect a lot of the affection is built on him slagging his players off on the telly at the weekend. 
    He'd be a good fit for a number of reasons.
    1. He's an affable person.
    2. He's overcome adversity on a personal level.
    3. He'd bring stability.
    4. Recent jobs means he'd have contacts for potential signings from those clubs (Ben Thompson and Mahlon Romeo are two former players of ours that would be more than decent signings for you).
    5. He knows how to put together both a challenging for the play-offs team and also a promotion winning one.
    6. Whatever anyone thinks of his playing style, he gets the team/squad playing for each other and with tenacity and an actual shape.
    7. Isn't afraid to blood youngsters if he thinks they're good enough.
    The above are probably in a horrific order but I'm shooting from the hip here  :)
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    Probably best to ask the most in the know person DFT from Into the Valley. Just waiting for Euell to be sacked now. Isn't he your mate @blackpool72?
    He’s a total knob!
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    CH4RLTON said:
    Shaun Dyche , what a statemen that would be :):):)
    Not a very good one as I've never heard of him... Sean Dyche on the other hand ;)
    Ouch!
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Sean Dyche is free....
    Think we will go for Eddie Howe.
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Rothko said:
    There are lot of sharp u-turns being done on Neil Harris, people were losing their nuts at the thought he would get the job, and I suspect a lot of the affection is built on him slagging his players off on the telly at the weekend. 
    I heard a flimsy whisper about Neil Harris as long ago as Wycombe away. Which I reported on here.
    Most people in response hated the notion.
    However for some of us the view we have of Harris goes back to a time before the weekend Gillingham rant.
    On a personal level I used to see him a lot at U23 games, and he never came over as objectionable, but that kind of view is not objective.
    The objective view would be to look at his managerial career.

    This wiki article is something that might help get a view of his abilities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Harris_(footballer,_born_1977)

  • We wouldn’t be able to afford Beale’s wages, more like Ian Beale
  • East Kent Addick
    East Kent Addick Posts: 1,350
    Does it matter who we get if they have to inherit a hand picked squad of misfits chosen by Sandgaard and his son.
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,022
    The fact that the new manager won't choose their squad rules out a lot of more experienced names. You're either looking at someone experienced and desperate or someone relatively inexperienced from a League 2 or smaller League 1 club who is happy to make the step up within those parameters. 
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Don’t want warburton or lee johnson
  • bobmunro said:
    If we get Lee Johnson i'm supporting a new football club

    I've just checked how much a season ticket is for Nantwich Town.
    I will be getting a season ticket down Bromley if this appointment happens.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    PWOR

    Curbs 16/1
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063
    It sounds worrying that the appointment of a manager won't affect player recruitment. The manager should be the one identifying the players to sign.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
     Convinced now that this is a rouse to bring in the players he wants without some meddling manager.
    F*******g nonsense
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Concerning that no one is seemingly lined up. Makes a mockery of all whole planning for the summer. You cannot do that with no manager in charge its got disaster written all over it