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JOHNNIE JACKSON - managed AFC Wimbledon to 2025 League 2 Play-off Final victory(p46)
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We excelled in high block and low press.JamesSeed said:“We for instance had a very hard time breaking down the low block.”
Sorry, but I’ve no idea what this ‘low block’ is.Is it the opposite of the high press?5 -
Have been out all day and only just found out. Posting before reading any details about this.
I am not usually shocked with CAFC but with this I am.
On the TS thread someone speculated he wouldn't be shocked if JJ was let go this week and I responded that I would be shocked if he was.
I bow to his intuition.
Is it a case of Jackson wanted his own players and TS has said you get what your given and there was a stand off or is it because TS wanted a different manager from the off when Adkins was sacked. I don't know.
Without knowing the inside track all I can say is it stinks from the point of TS making comments that he gets on with Jackson and they are planning for next season.
Whether Jackson was right or wrong for the managers role was open to debate as has been the case but this, both timing and stringing someone along has a stench about it and doesn't sit well with me.4 -
I don't disagree with your concerns, but I do agree with TS.roseandcrown said:ButtleJR said:“I obviously did not interfere with team selections for the games but I’m very convinced that more pressing high up on the pitch would give us a higher probability of getting promoted,” the Dane continued.
Quotes like this form TS are coming more and more concerning. Who is advising of this, his son the guru of football? I would understand if it this was coming from a director of football or technical director who has football experience.
I am starting to get uneasy with how this is starting to play out. TS is well intended but I fear he is so confident in his own ability and stubborn to change.
We started off under JJ pressing teams and won every game.
JJ got appointed full time and we stopped pressing the opposition and started losing.
I also agree with TS that the tactics need to have some flexibility.5 -
It’s almost as if TS hasn’t got a clue what he’s talking about.NabySarr said:
We are 6th in league 1 for passes per defensive action which is a good measure of how much a team presses. I don’t get Sandgaards reasoning at all. We don’t really have the players for it, with not enough mobility up front to press well (Stockley) and not enough pace at the back for a high line. But our pressing was probably the one thing Jackson improved most from AdkinsElliotCAFC said:
He wants a manager to play a high press, fluid football with Stockley and Aneke up front. Kirk isn’t a runner, neither is DJ.Callumcafc said:Blimey that’s a genuine surprise. Although does go some way to explaining the contract situations…
Will never understand the complaints about the style of football. We are in League One. In League One it’s never been pretty. Under Powell, under Bowyer. Look at Wigan and Rotherham this season. Both played 3-5-2 with big lumps at either end of the pitch.
If we want to take the MK Dons route here, it’s going to be a long old road and many years of getting it wrong before it all clicks. No doubt it’s probably the better choice in the long term but it’s risky.Doesn’t seem to be much alignment with what he wants and the actions he takes to get there.
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Jackson did not have any involvement in Summer recruitment and its not clear he had much involvement for January's. He then has to achieve with players he may not gave wanted. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the decision, Sandgaard ... Thomas and Martin are as, if not more culpable for this seasons failures.2
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This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.29
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8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.12 -
God forbid that TS thinks the squad is largely up to the task, and the failure to achieve the objective of promotion is down to Jackson. So add one or two an a couple of loans, an we piss the league.Surprised he has gone. But, have to say after watching this seasons up and down performances, and some of the I’ll discipline and square pegs in round holes, I’m not sorry.2
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Lets start a campaign to get Jim Ratcliffe (Ineos) to buy us-he's just missed out on Chelsea. TS gets his just reward (financial) for saving us from crooks and escapes with his cash, Jim gets a London club which would quickly respond to the cash he could pump in, and the credit/quodos from a successful rejuvenation.Bailey said:I can't help thinking that Mr Sandgaard is starting to realise that Charlton Athletic is the money pit that he was probably warned about. He now has lost three managers, one by the managers decision to walk, two by the hand of the chairman either down to results or allegedly down to the fact the chairman doesn't like the style of play. Whatever people thought, Sandgaard, like many other chairman in the league, thought he could pick up a club that had a ground and fanbase that could, with a little help, move up the leagues and be sold at a profit. His bank account is now telling him he is running out of time to realise his assets. Sadly I think he will soon resort to the sale of our youngsters to balance the books, just at a time when we have seemed to produce the best collection of future first team players since the sixties. The sacking of Jackson is not a clear the decks as some people believe but a clear indication that Sandgaard is running out of time and money, with no prospect of recovering his losses because quite simply he owns nothing of value and the value of nothing is nothing.0 -
The next two managers could be crucial.18
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Which is what we thought was the case.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.1 -
It was achievable with Stockley, Washington, Lavelle and Inniss fit for 90% of the games he was in charge. Without them he was fucked. And here we are.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.16 -
This squad isn’t even in the best 8 in the league. So not sure how you can expect a manager to pick them up in 22nd after 13 games and then finish in the top 8. Top half would have been more reasonable, I don’t think JJ under-achieved with this squad I think he performed as expected really. It’s a top half squad and under JJ our record is that of a top half teamDazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.8 -
Exactly! Injuries made it impossible. I still don't understand his complete faith in 3-5-2 but seriously anybody expecting miracles from the hand he was dealt are mental.PragueAddick said:
It was achievable with Stockley, Washington, Lavelle and Inniss fit for 90% of the games he was in charge. Without them he was fucked. And here we are.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.2 -
I would just question the timing of all this,regardless of whether the sacking is justified,the playing style has been the same all season and results where not really improving.So why leave it until now,why not make the decision weeks ago,when it was clear no improvement was coming.Possibly so that many JJ supporters would renew their tickets before deadline day,the timing is suspicious.I think we have all been led a bit of a dance here,no one more than JJ himself who must have gone home after the Dinner without the slightest suspicion.TS has really gone down in my estimation,you just do not treat loyal employees in this way.Also to the players,and you know who you are,who contributed to this situation.2
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Wtf could jacko do? He took over with us in a relegation battle and took us well into safety with a squad that wasn’t his.Personally hacked off he didn’t get the summer to build his squad and have a crack at it next season.This is not the way to treat a man who was stuck with the club through literally everything.20
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8th was achievable. We've seen other sides do it.supaclive said:
I've seen you play @Dazzler21 and just like your footballing skills, you don't really know what you're doing.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.
Jacko showed his belief in the current set up with the amount of minutes he played loan signings he didn't choose.
Gunther
Watson
Arter
Matthews
Yid loanee
Chelsea loanee
Elliot Lee
Injuries to Stockley, Washington, Aneke, Lavelle and Innis.
And yet he should have got EIGHTEEN MORE POINTS??!
TOP TWO FORM
WITH THIS SQUAD?!5 -
We were 22nd when Jackson took over. He NEEDED automatic promotion form to get to 8th.....Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Not autos. 8th.supaclive said:
I've seen you play @Dazzler21 and just like your footballing skills, you don't really know what you're doing.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.
Jacko showed his belief in the current set up with the amount of minutes he played loan signings he didn't choose.
Gunther
Watson
Arter
Matthews
Yid loanee
Chelsea loanee
Elliot Lee
Injuries to Stockley, Washington, Aneke, Lavelle and Innis.
And yet he should have got EIGHTEEN MORE POINTS??!
TOP TWO FORM
WITH THIS SQUAD?!
Sigh.2 -
Re-read your comment. Why couldn't we do it when others have.supaclive said:
We were 22nd when Jackson took over. He NEEDED promotion form to get to 8th.....Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Not autos. 8th.supaclive said:
I've seen you play @Dazzler21 and just like your footballing skills, you don't really know what you're doing.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.
Jacko showed his belief in the current set up with the amount of minutes he played loan signings he didn't choose.
Gunther
Watson
Arter
Matthews
Yid loanee
Chelsea loanee
Elliot Lee
Injuries to Stockley, Washington, Aneke, Lavelle and Innis.
And yet he should have got EIGHTEEN MORE POINTS??!
TOP TWO FORM
WITH THIS SQUAD?!
Sigh.4 -
Wigan Manager - 42Lordflashheart said:There is plenty out there to choose from - ex Derby boss Cocu, ex Norwich Farke, Warburton, Mowbray
We need experience, not young, if we are to get out of Lge 1
If only Curbs could be tempted out of retirement - on Charlton Live he speaks so much sense
Rotherham Manager - 48
Sunderland Manager - 40
MK Dons Manager - 36
Wycombe Manager - 48
Sheff Wed Manager - 46
You want a manager that has been involved with coaching/playing fairly recently. No dinosaurs.5 -
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I'm amazed that so many people are shocked at this news. I really hoped JJ would succeed but it became obvious early on that he was out of his depth. If it wasnt for the history he has with the club there isnt a chance he would have got away with the performances this season. Those people harping on about his win ratio etc ffs he was managing Charlton in league one ! I should think he would have a better win ratio than managers who managed in the championship or in Curbs case the premiership. His style of football was tedious and without any imagination. Unfortunately as has been said before he should have gone and learnt his trade lower down the leagues. That all sounds harsh but it is a harsh world. Please God may we now open up the vacancy to people who perhaps might not have a proven history with the club. Being a legend doesnt automatically deem you get a shot at managing. I think the delay in contracts for players can now be understood. Not a chance we havent already got someone lined up to take over withington the next week or so imo1
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Haha football wise I don't think he's got a clue ......................... except that his son has a hard shot.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Blimey. Big call from Sandgaard. Let's hope he knows what he is doing.3 -
Shocked at how many people are against this decision.
Huge job to get us back up next season, JJ unfortunately showed he couldn't get results or performances good enough on the pitch.
Good decision from TS.8 -
This 100%. Will be Adkins all over again if we get an experienced manager dropping down from the Championship. Not what we need at all.ValleyGary said:
Wigan Manager - 42Lordflashheart said:There is plenty out there to choose from - ex Derby boss Cocu, ex Norwich Farke, Warburton, Mowbray
We need experience, not young, if we are to get out of Lge 1
If only Curbs could be tempted out of retirement - on Charlton Live he speaks so much sense
Rotherham Manager - 48
Sunderland Manager - 40
MK Dons Manager - 36
Wycombe Manager - 48
Sheff Wed Manager - 46
You want a manager that has been involved with coaching/playing fairly recently. No dinosaurs.
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Morecambe fans doing oh lay chants when 3-1 up at The Valley is probably amongst the lowest moments of supporting Charlton. Getting taunted by relegation guff at home was embarrassing.J BLOCK said:Shocked at how many people are against this decision.
Huge job to get us back up next season, JJ unfortunately showed he couldn't get results or performances good enough on the pitch.
Good decision from TS.13 -
BECAUSE OUR SQUAD ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH!!!Dazzler21 said:
Re-read your comment. Why couldn't we do it when others have.supaclive said:
We were 22nd when Jackson took over. He NEEDED promotion form to get to 8th.....Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Not autos. 8th.supaclive said:
I've seen you play @Dazzler21 and just like your footballing skills, you don't really know what you're doing.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.
Jacko showed his belief in the current set up with the amount of minutes he played loan signings he didn't choose.
Gunther
Watson
Arter
Matthews
Yid loanee
Chelsea loanee
Elliot Lee
Injuries to Stockley, Washington, Aneke, Lavelle and Innis.
And yet he should have got EIGHTEEN MORE POINTS??!
TOP TWO FORM
WITH THIS SQUAD?!
Sigh.
THE SQUAD JACKO DIDN'T CHOOSE
THE LOAN PLAYERS HE DIDN'T RATE
THE INJURIES WE HAD
YET YOU THINK IT IS / WAS ????
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Does sandgaard have another son ?Macronate said:With Jackson going, looks like it’s going to be a complete rebuild because any incoming manager will want sizeable input.
Wonder if it’s going to be a young Dane?
All the best Johnnie.0 -
You're getting very aggressive here.supaclive said:
BECAUSE OUR SQUAD ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH!!!Dazzler21 said:
Re-read your comment. Why couldn't we do it when others have.supaclive said:
We were 22nd when Jackson took over. He NEEDED promotion form to get to 8th.....Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Not autos. 8th.supaclive said:
I've seen you play @Dazzler21 and just like your footballing skills, you don't really know what you're doing.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.
Jacko showed his belief in the current set up with the amount of minutes he played loan signings he didn't choose.
Gunther
Watson
Arter
Matthews
Yid loanee
Chelsea loanee
Elliot Lee
Injuries to Stockley, Washington, Aneke, Lavelle and Innis.
And yet he should have got EIGHTEEN MORE POINTS??!
TOP TWO FORM
WITH THIS SQUAD?!
Sigh.
THE SQUAD JACKO DIDN'T CHOOSE
THE LOAN PLAYERS HE DIDN'T RATE
THE INJURIES WE HAD
YET YOU THINK IT IS / WAS ????9 -
Can't comment on this season really, just gutted it's not worked out for Johnnie. If we get another manager like Nigel Adkins I'll be fuming, and if one's not been identified already then that's criminal. I don't want a manager whose success was 10 years ago, and certainly one who studies the game but still insists on playing the same winless noughties 433 formation week in week out.0
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Because you're talking nonsenseDazzler21 said:
You're getting very aggressive here.supaclive said:
BECAUSE OUR SQUAD ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH!!!Dazzler21 said:
Re-read your comment. Why couldn't we do it when others have.supaclive said:
We were 22nd when Jackson took over. He NEEDED promotion form to get to 8th.....Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Not autos. 8th.supaclive said:
I've seen you play @Dazzler21 and just like your footballing skills, you don't really know what you're doing.Dazzler21 said:
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.The Red Robin said:This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.
Jacko showed his belief in the current set up with the amount of minutes he played loan signings he didn't choose.
Gunther
Watson
Arter
Matthews
Yid loanee
Chelsea loanee
Elliot Lee
Injuries to Stockley, Washington, Aneke, Lavelle and Innis.
And yet he should have got EIGHTEEN MORE POINTS??!
TOP TWO FORM
WITH THIS SQUAD?!
Sigh.
THE SQUAD JACKO DIDN'T CHOOSE
THE LOAN PLAYERS HE DIDN'T RATE
THE INJURIES WE HAD
YET YOU THINK IT IS / WAS ????
In no world could this current squad get promoted
Yet "others have"
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