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Sandgaard is not Charlton

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    sammy391 said:
    Bed wetters out as usual.

    we’ve protested over managers being told what players to pick, delayed games due to huge under funding and money ball transfers…

    now we have boycotters over a poor manager being sacked, and sacked via anything other than face to face.

    Jesus wept 
    Boycotting is basically part of Charlton fan culture now!
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,549
    Piss poor. How silly does he look playing his stupid guitar on the pitch now
  • BaileyHintonTocknell
    BaileyHintonTocknell Posts: 20
    The “failure” of Bowyer, Adkins and JJ in the post as Manager reflects very poorly on the club. We tried inexperienced and experienced, insiders and outsiders. Do we know what we want? 
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    It doesn't mean I agree with it  however I was made redundant by phone from none other than a UK University...its the way things are done nowadays.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,436
    edited May 2022
    Of course Sandgaard isnt Charlton... He's never lived in the area so why would he be a supporter of the club - This is something that the Accrington owner warned us of a few years ago.

    To an extent I cant see Andrew Barclay etc. being any different, other than the fact he'd have PV to potentially advise him - He'd still probably do what he thinks is best for himself, before the club. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    Redmidland said:
    It doesn't mean I agree with it  however I was made redundant by phone from none other than a UK University...its the way things are done nowadays.
    Exactly; we received some devastating news over the phone on Saturday night / Sunday morning, from the NHS. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Was he hired by phone, had meeting by phone etc?

    I wouldn't like be sacked by phone but if my boss lives 5,000 miles away, then surely its part for the course!

    how did Adkins get sacked, I think Tommy was in the country at that point. Most agreed on here that Tommy should have sacked him earlier, would it have been acceptable if Tommy sacked Adkins by phone two weeks earlier?
    What if your boss has been in the country and you’d seen him days before?
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,629
    Redmidland said:
    It doesn't mean I agree with it  however I was made redundant by phone from none other than a UK University...its the way things are done nowadays.
    That doesn't mean it is right
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  • Orpingtony
    Orpingtony Posts: 281
    There's a bad smell about this. 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Sandgaard is not Charlton.

    Charlton is not Charlton at present.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    edited May 2022
    I firmly believe that if JJ had stayed in charge we would not be promoted next year, but then I don’t think we will be anyway.
    I think we still have two seasons to go in this league and promotion will coincide with our current youth players maturing into the side.
    The expectations of some sort of quick fix of our Club after years of abuse were wishful but unrealistic in my opinion. I believe we are moving in the right direction by going with Cat 1 and improving the coaching and medical teams.
    Our youth teams under Hamza are playing the way that TS says he wants, and both teams (especially the under 18’s) are easy on the eye and play some fantastic football. It is why I wanted Jason Euell and not JJ.
    Still do. I get those who don’t want a Charlton link again, but I think he has talent, the ideas, the enthusiasm, together with the coaching experience, to be a very good manager.

  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    tangoflash said:
    I have it on good authority that he sacked JJ via a tick tock video................
    I heard he hired a plane with a banner.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    edited May 2022
    Prince Andrew would lose his shit if he heard about this method of communication

    Sandgaurd has lost honourable points 


  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    People messing their nappy about whether it was done over the blower. Same people that whine when they get dumped by text. The outcome is the same irrespective of the method. It’s business ffs.
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    tangoflash said:
    I have it on good authority that he sacked JJ via a tick tock video................
    I heard he hired a plane with a banner.
    Reports say it was done by drone in his front garden! 
  • RoanRedNY
    RoanRedNY Posts: 1,149
    se9addick said:
    sammy391 said:
    Bed wetters out as usual.

    we’ve protested over managers being told what players to pick, delayed games due to huge under funding and money ball transfers…

    now we have boycotters over a poor manager being sacked, and sacked via anything other than face to face.

    Jesus wept 
    Boycotting is basically part of Charlton fan culture now!
    I am going to boycott the second syllable in protest, so henceforth I am a fervent supporter of Charl and maybe in sympathy watch only the first half which, with a bit of luck, will include the good 10 minutes.

  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    tangoflash said:
    I have it on good authority that he sacked JJ via a tick tock video................
    I heard he hired a plane with a banner.

  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    Personally if i was being made redundant, i'd rather it was done by phone. Avoids the face to face awkwardness, fake handshakes, then having to get up and leave the room.

    You can just say my agent will be in touch regarding the pay off settlement, put the phone down and it's done.
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,465
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Personally if i was being made redundant, i'd rather it was done by phone. Avoids the face to face awkwardness, fake handshakes, then having to get up and leave the room.

    You can just say my agent will be in touch regarding the pay off settlement, put the phone down and it's done.
     To a man that's given the service he has?

    Bit shit house isn't it?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Redrobo said:
    I firmly believe that if JJ had stayed in charge we would not be promoted next year, but then I don’t think we will be anyway.
    I think we still have two seasons to go in this league and promotion will coincide with our current youth players maturing into the side.
    The expectations of some sort of quick fix of our Club after years of abuse were wishful but unrealistic in my opinion. I believe we are moving in the right direction by going with Cat 1 and improving the coaching and medical teams.
    Our youth teams under Hamza are playing the way that TS says he wants, and both teams (especially the under 18’s) are easy on the eye and play some fantastic football. It is why I wanted Jason Euell and not JJ.
    Still do. I get those who don’t want a Charlton link again, but I think he has talent, the ideas, the enthusiasm, together with the coaching experience, to be a very good manager.

    I would imagine this situation makes Euell even less likely to want the job than he has before.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    carly burn said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Personally if i was being made redundant, i'd rather it was done by phone. Avoids the face to face awkwardness, fake handshakes, then having to get up and leave the room.

    You can just say my agent will be in touch regarding the pay off settlement, put the phone down and it's done.
     To a man that's given the service he has?

    Bit shit house isn't it?
    Everyone will have their own preference (of course the preference is to not be sacked at all), but for me avoiding the awkwardness is better. I honestly wouldn't care if it was a phone call, it's not like it'd be a long conversation anyway.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,268
    edited May 2022
    Phone call, Zoom call, whatever, the honeymoon for Sandgaard is clearly over, some fans wanted Jackson out and that decision will be better looked at with a lot of hindsight. Sandgaard is running out of faith, with the fans, and time to realise his long term plan, get the next decisions wrong and the sacking of Jackson will be reassessed just as Adkins sacking is now. 
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    The incoming will be cheap and desperate. This is not an owner who is going to shock us all. Unless of course he appoints a woman. 
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,828
    edited May 2022
    masicat said:
    The incoming will be cheap and desperate. This is not an owner who is going to shock us all. Unless of course he appoints a woman. 
    Lady
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    masicat said:
    The incoming will be cheap and desperate. This is not an owner who is going to shock us all. Unless of course he appoints a woman. 
    Do we want another “big” past their best like Adkins? Recruitment didn’t help him, but JJ got more out this squad than Adkins did.

    Personally I’d rather we gambled on Beale or someone doing well and playing good football at a smaller club.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,003
    I always got the feeling that TS never wanted JJ as permanent boss, which that is why he took a while to make it so and mainly because of the fans. Probably why he gave him a contract that if he did not do well he could sack him with less compensation
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,013
    ross1 said:
    I always got the feeling that TS never wanted JJ as permanent boss, which that is why he took a while to make it so and mainly because of the fans. Probably why he gave him a contract that if he did not do well he could sack him with less compensation
    Yup, that’s how I saw it.  
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,019
    Let’s face it, we don’t know how it happened. What we do know is that TS was over at the weekend and will have met with JJ. We also know, I think, that JJ’s contract required a top 8 finish. TS will have been waiting to see how near we were going to get but it’s been clear for some time that top 8 was not achievable.

    I suspect the writing was on the wall before the Ipswich game which may explain the capitulation. Remember we got stuffed 3-0 in Russell Slade’s last game, no doubt for similar reasons.

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