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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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sholland said:shirty5 said:So ideally the majority would rather see Warburton or Beale in charge. So is the job role as a manager or as it appears to be a head coach if we say players are having contracts renewed and new players are signed before a new incumbent is announced.
In my opinion that would rule Warburton out and as Brownie said in todays SLP a young coach like Beale for example who would work with the players at his disposal.
If it’s not Beale then he will it in my view a young coach from abroad that we never heard of
"insert Colorado Rapids coach here"
I did ponder initially if that type of move for a coach from MLS could be possible. Would be incredibly incredibly left field. Not saying it couldn't work but it would seriously worry me initially.0 -
Have you been in a dark room for fifteen years?The Red Robin said:
Because he’s crapChunes said:Why would Neil Lennon be a divisive decision?
So are we!1 -
Is Lennon going to improve that then?carly burn said:
Have you been in a dark room for fifteen years?The Red Robin said:
Because he’s crapChunes said:Why would Neil Lennon be a divisive decision?
So are we!1 -
Are we sure he doesn't already work for us?TootingRedArmy said:I asked a QPR mate what he thought of Warburton.......he sent several texts......made interesting reading...
"He's good. You'll pass it around from the back and play nice passing football. He improves players and talks eloquently. On the downside we have had several runs of 6/7 losses in a row and the reason he left was because he didn't seem to be able to motivate the players to grind out a result when you need to. His calm nature then gets a little repetitive and his lack of a plan B can frustrate. He has left us in a lot better place than we were. He likes keepers that can pass out from the back."
"We lost 60+ goals from BOS, Eze, Nakhi Wells and Jordan Hugill and should've got in the playoffs regardless. He's worked miracles really. Our recent form has been catastrophic - far far worse than the bottom club so we almost didn't have a choice. All our players got injured tailend of the season and with AFCON destroyed us. That and we're on our SEVENTH keeper of the season. Unbelievable. The whole thing has been incredibly depressing. At a guess 7 points out of the last 42?"
"Calendar year of 2021 we were automatic promotion form. His runs are great when you're winning. Definitely a good manager to grab if you can."
"Last 18 games: W3 D3 L12."
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Garrymanilow said:
Are we sure he doesn't already work for us?TootingRedArmy said:I asked a QPR mate what he thought of Warburton.......he sent several texts......made interesting reading...
"He's good. You'll pass it around from the back and play nice passing football. He improves players and talks eloquently. On the downside we have had several runs of 6/7 losses in a row and the reason he left was because he didn't seem to be able to motivate the players to grind out a result when you need to. His calm nature then gets a little repetitive and his lack of a plan B can frustrate. He has left us in a lot better place than we were. He likes keepers that can pass out from the back."
"We lost 60+ goals from BOS, Eze, Nakhi Wells and Jordan Hugill and should've got in the playoffs regardless. He's worked miracles really. Our recent form has been catastrophic - far far worse than the bottom club so we almost didn't have a choice. All our players got injured tailend of the season and with AFCON destroyed us. That and we're on our SEVENTH keeper of the season. Unbelievable. The whole thing has been incredibly depressing. At a guess 7 points out of the last 42?"
"Calendar year of 2021 we were automatic promotion form. His runs are great when you're winning. Definitely a good manager to grab if you can."
"Last 18 games: W3 D3 L12."
Well, take the highlighted points in para one and he sounds just like good old smiler Nige bless him..😎0 -
If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.1
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It's just rubbish. Like people saying Sandgaard forced JJ to play 352 when actually he was clearly against it!MuttleyCAFC said:If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.7 -
Does show that maybe Charlton are not unique in having injuries or somehow uniquely lax in managing them.Garrymanilow said:
Are we sure he doesn't already work for us?TootingRedArmy said:I asked a QPR mate what he thought of Warburton.......he sent several texts......made interesting reading...
"He's good. You'll pass it around from the back and play nice passing football. He improves players and talks eloquently. On the downside we have had several runs of 6/7 losses in a row and the reason he left was because he didn't seem to be able to motivate the players to grind out a result when you need to. His calm nature then gets a little repetitive and his lack of a plan B can frustrate. He has left us in a lot better place than we were. He likes keepers that can pass out from the back."
"We lost 60+ goals from BOS, Eze, Nakhi Wells and Jordan Hugill and should've got in the playoffs regardless. He's worked miracles really. Our recent form has been catastrophic - far far worse than the bottom club so we almost didn't have a choice. All our players got injured tailend of the season and with AFCON destroyed us. That and we're on our SEVENTH keeper of the season. Unbelievable. The whole thing has been incredibly depressing. At a guess 7 points out of the last 42?"
"Calendar year of 2021 we were automatic promotion form. His runs are great when you're winning. Definitely a good manager to grab if you can."
"Last 18 games: W3 D3 L12."
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Anyone watching the Swansea v QPR game.
Warburton wearing what looks like a Castore top.6 -
There is a small group of “fans” intent on creating lies to fit their agenda against TS. I think they enjoyed the faux-infamy the received when they stood up to ESI and will now do anything to get that attention again. I truly believe it wouldn’t matter who owned us, these lies would be created.MuttleyCAFC said:If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.29 - Sponsored links:
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All these different rumours that people in the end take as facts are tedious. If JJ was being forced to play certain players in games or play formations that he didnt think was right then that adds even more weight to the point that he was out of his depth if any of that was true imo he would have come out at the time with the cryptic type statement that other managers have used like it was a club decision. If it is the case and he kept quiet then that was a big mistakeMuttleyCAFC said:If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.0 -
AndyG said:
All these different rumours that people in the end take as facts are tedious. If JJ was being forced to play certain players in games or play formations that he didnt think was right then that adds even more weight to the point that he was out of his depth if any of that was true imo he would have come out at the time with the cryptic type statement that other managers have used like it was a club decision.MuttleyCAFC said:If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.So TS gets rid of him for playing a system that he asked him to play …. Whoever wrote that needs to read it again and have a lay down lol0 -
Which channel?Henry Irving said:Anyone watching the Swansea v QPR game.
Warburton wearing what looks like a Castore top.0 -
You normally post a lot of sense on here but I can't agree with you on this.Covered_End_Lad said:
There is a small group of “fans” intent on creating lies to fit their agenda against TS. I think they enjoyed the faux-infamy the received when they stood up to ESI and will now do anything to get that attention again. I truly believe it wouldn’t matter who owned us, these lies would be created.MuttleyCAFC said:If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.
All Charlton fan's want is for us to be run in a professional manner and get back to the championship as soon as possible.
Should we have a successful season next season then people who are calling Sandgaard out at present would in my opinion stop doing so.
If next season is as bad as the one just finished then they will be entitled to carry on moaning.14 -
Any manager of even the most basic kind can say to somebody (owner) who tells them how they should play, or who they should play, something like ‘yeah, we were going to but the weather conditions/there was an injury in the warm up/late fitness test/early change when seeing the opposition line up and shape, so it didn’t happen this time, maybe next’.
Or ignore them.
Karl Robinson could blind them with science in an hour long explanation.
I reckon ignoring them and doing your own thing with the hand you’re dealt is what I would do.
I really struggle to understand the current debate about removing the autonomy from the person who prepares the players and picks the team.
It is a fundamental as far as I can see.3 -
PrickHenry Irving said:
WowRonnieMoore said:
Perhaps the person he wants is still in a job and has to wait till end of season and there contract running downbromleyjohn said:I really thought sandgard would have the new manager in place by now. It’s not as if he didn’t know that he was going to sack jj some time ago. Being a business man he surely sees what a precious commodity time is
No one else could have the vision to see that as a possibility
Thanks Colin0 -
Unless you accept the adage “the league position over a full season doesn’t lie” in which case they were 3rd best. Most attractive maybe, but not the best……?PValleyOfTears said:
Totally agree. I'd go as far as to say MK Dons were the best team in this league.SELR_addicks said:
Of the two I would rather be watching Charlton play like MK Dons than Wycombe. Bet most people would too.Scoham said:2 -
Wish I was as confident. Some of the stuff coming out of his mouth recently doesn’t fill me with the same confidence. He has a uncanny knack of talking bollox with a hint of lobbing people under the oncoming big red public transport. The way JJ went I suspect there is a deeper division in what we need and what he is prepared to do and it wouldn’t surprise me if that rumour was true. May make me naive or a cynic, but by the same token I may be right to doubt the efficacy of some of the old wallop being fed to us at present.Chunes said:
It's just rubbish. Like people saying Sandgaard forced JJ to play 352 when actually he was clearly against it!MuttleyCAFC said:If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.0 -
Not seen Jon Dahl Tomasson mentioned.
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Believe it or not, some of us don't have an agenda other than Charlton, have concerns about the structure, actions and obviously quality of team. To whit some of us are not moaning, are fans without “inverted commas” and are just a little concerned about who is paddling the canoe and which end of the paddle he’s using3
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Won the Swedish League in charge of Malmo the last two yearsScoham said:Not seen Jon Dahl Tomasson mentioned.
Why would he swap Champions League Football for League One - Although I'd still rate him higher than our Strikers5 -
To be fair he didn't say anything about moaning, he was referring to the things people make up.blackpool72 said:
You normally post a lot of sense on here but I can't agree with you on this.Covered_End_Lad said:
There is a small group of “fans” intent on creating lies to fit their agenda against TS. I think they enjoyed the faux-infamy the received when they stood up to ESI and will now do anything to get that attention again. I truly believe it wouldn’t matter who owned us, these lies would be created.MuttleyCAFC said:If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.
All Charlton fan's want is for us to be run in a professional manner and get back to the championship as soon as possible.
Should we have a successful season next season then people who are calling Sandgaard out at present would in my opinion stop doing so.
If next season is as bad as the one just finished then they will be entitled to carry on moaning.1 -
For those readers who might be taking this seriously (I bet there are quite a few), AC had a minor role in Quadrophenia where he is cast as a mod who throws a table through a cafe window in Brighton.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Didn't seem to hold Curbishley back. I've seen video evidence of him launching a table through a brighton cafe window having it with some rockers in '79.SoundAsa£ said:
Going back to around 1966/67 I’d say, an old pal of mine who had come up through the youth team and was playing regularly for the reserves (as it was then), came to grief with the club.NomadicAddick said:
Cannabis, ecstasy and packet. Can certainly testify that isn't performance enhancing just in case anyone was wondering...addick1956 said:
After his racist antics after he left, more aDazzler21 said:
Was Bowyer ever a 'Club Legend'shirty5 said:
Like Lee Bowyer and Chris Powell?JamesSeed said:
That’s exactly what we need! Another club legend, untried at this level.sm said:Has anyone mentioned Claus Jensen, done a pretty good job managing a small club in Denmark for the past two years, that may be near the limits of its potential and all the obvious connections. TS must know him - and he does like being popular.Although I expect you’re whooshing here?
Leg End.
And being caught out on dope testing as a yoof player.
He went down to Brighton or Margate for a weekend away clubbing it with some pals from the Lewisham Mods scene.
Biggest mistake of his life.
He swallowed some Doobs, Purple Hearts (SKF’s), I was never exactly sure of how the info got back to The Valley but sadly for him somehow it did.
Now this fella was clearly looking like he was going to make the grade all the way but he was history in seconds flat.
How times have changed!
Al’s elder brother Bill of course manages The Who and that was his link to appearing in the movie.6 -
ForeverAddickted said:
Won the Swedish League in charge of Malmo the last two yearsScoham said:Not seen Jon Dahl Tomasson mentioned.
Why would he swap Champions League Football for League One - Although I'd still rate him higher than our Strikers
Appears he's left Malmö so might not too be daft , but would be very very left field.2 -
I'm trying to find out if any truth in the above, my mate works with the first team at Malmo, I've just texted him. Will report back if I hear anything.ForeverAddickted said:
Won the Swedish League in charge of Malmo the last two yearsScoham said:Not seen Jon Dahl Tomasson mentioned.
Why would he swap Champions League Football for League One - Although I'd still rate him higher than our Strikers6 -
Oh yes - He departed in December - Makes me feel better seeing them in third at the momentMarcusH26 said:ForeverAddickted said:
Won the Swedish League in charge of Malmo the last two yearsScoham said:Not seen Jon Dahl Tomasson mentioned.
Why would he swap Champions League Football for League One - Although I'd still rate him higher than our Strikers
Appears he's left Malmö so might not too be daft , but would be very very left field.
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Would he be able to get a work permit now UK not in the EU?0
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Yes he did leave, he resigned last Dec I think. I know for a fact he was being touted as coming to the UK to work, that's what I've contacted my mate about, because Jon mentioned to my mate about following him to his next role, wherever that was going to be.ForeverAddickted said:
Oh yes - He departed in December - Makes me feel better seeing them in third at the momentMarcusH26 said:ForeverAddickted said:
Won the Swedish League in charge of Malmo the last two yearsScoham said:Not seen Jon Dahl Tomasson mentioned.
Why would he swap Champions League Football for League One - Although I'd still rate him higher than our Strikers
Appears he's left Malmö so might not too be daft , but would be very very left field.1 -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9246955/Brexit-BLOCK-foreign-bosses-FAs-new-rules-threaten-change-face-English-football.htmlHenry Irving said:Would he be able to get a work permit now UK not in the EU?
Reading this, yes I know but it's the only source I could find, I think he could. Laudrup however couldn't.0 -
I never knew that. Must've seen the film 5 or 6 times. This is the most interesting comment on this thread to be honest!SoundAsa£ said:
For those readers who might be taking this seriously (I bet there are quite a few), AC had a minor role in Quadrophenia where he is cast as a mod who throws a table through a cafe window in Brighton.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Didn't seem to hold Curbishley back. I've seen video evidence of him launching a table through a brighton cafe window having it with some rockers in '79.SoundAsa£ said:
Going back to around 1966/67 I’d say, an old pal of mine who had come up through the youth team and was playing regularly for the reserves (as it was then), came to grief with the club.NomadicAddick said:
Cannabis, ecstasy and packet. Can certainly testify that isn't performance enhancing just in case anyone was wondering...addick1956 said:
After his racist antics after he left, more aDazzler21 said:
Was Bowyer ever a 'Club Legend'shirty5 said:
Like Lee Bowyer and Chris Powell?JamesSeed said:
That’s exactly what we need! Another club legend, untried at this level.sm said:Has anyone mentioned Claus Jensen, done a pretty good job managing a small club in Denmark for the past two years, that may be near the limits of its potential and all the obvious connections. TS must know him - and he does like being popular.Although I expect you’re whooshing here?
Leg End.
And being caught out on dope testing as a yoof player.
He went down to Brighton or Margate for a weekend away clubbing it with some pals from the Lewisham Mods scene.
Biggest mistake of his life.
He swallowed some Doobs, Purple Hearts (SKF’s), I was never exactly sure of how the info got back to The Valley but sadly for him somehow it did.
Now this fella was clearly looking like he was going to make the grade all the way but he was history in seconds flat.
How times have changed!
Al’s elder brother Bill of course manages The Who and that was his link to appearing in the movie.2
