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Oh I agree to a point but then its the manager/coaches job to iron this out. Not excusing the players though as they were poor majority of the season.RoanRedNY said:
The manager can only do so much or accept part of the blame for that though. People on the pitch have got to do their jobs, and in our case the repetitive errors, lack of positional sense and indifference was on them imho.king addick said:
I think the manner of losing was an issue. Those losses we went down with a wimper and rolled over for teams. We wont win every game & play well but when we do lose, you want to at least see that the effort was there.MuttleyCAFC said:Personally, and I have to be honest, if we win and the football is terrible, I don't really care. Obviously, the football was generally terrible last season and we didn't win enough but it is the not winning enough which bothers me.0 -
I honestly think he'd look worse for it, since it would be playing into one of his biggest weaknesses.Scoham said:
It is but if we played it into his feet rather than pumping it in the general direction of his head he’d look better for it.Chunes said:
It's hard to imagine us playing that stuff when Stockley is the focal point of our teambalham red said:
I want to see some controlled possession with progressive passing and, on a good day, maybe some 1 touch stuff on occasion. Don't say you can't expect that in League One because I saw our opponents seem to do it every other week!king addick said:
I think the manner of losing was an issue. Those losses we went down with a wimper and rolled over for teams. We wont win every game & play well but when we do lose, you want to at least see that the effort was there.MuttleyCAFC said:Personally, and I have to be honest, if we win and the football is terrible, I don't really care. Obviously, the football was generally terrible last season and we didn't win enough but it is the not winning enough which bothers me.0 -
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Ultimately, I just want our new manager sorted sooner rather than later, and I would hope that timeliness of this appointment is playing into TS' thoughts about getting someone in place. Appreciate that we don't want to rush in to this, but time is against us - under NA, we had pre-season fixtures in early July and that is not far away. It's going to be delicate, but I can't imagine people like, for example - Manning, are going to be in any hurry to get on the phone in any good time if they have remaining games/playoffs/commitments. I kinda wish, like others have said, that TS had made this decision to bin JJ earlier, but I suspect he had this in his head and wanted to keep the players honest for the remaining games.
NA had a transfer window and full pre-season and still balls'd it up - new guy coming in will have less time for prep and players, plus added pressure of playoff minimum, expectation of high press football and probably a modest (albeit higher than most in L1) budget. It sounds less and less appealing for many managers, the more I think about it.0 -
Who’s tenner did this then?20
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So which bucket does he fit in, a young coach or experienced manager?..0
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If i put another score on, he will be odds on favourite, and knock Lennon into touch...Callumcafc said:Who’s tenner did this then?
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Experienced young ex CharltonScoham said:So which bucket does he fit in, a young coach or experienced manager?..1 -
Perfect - an appointment 100% of the fanbase simultaneously back and are unhappy about at the same time.ShootersHillGuru said:
Experienced young ex CharltonScoham said:So which bucket does he fit in, a young coach or experienced manager?..8 -
Good video that, have seen this guy talking before and he seems very good and level headed no matter what club he's talking about. A good insight there.Cafc43v3r said:0 - Sponsored links:
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I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.1
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No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table4 -
How about Gary Cahill as player coach with an experienced No 2, seemed to work in the past1
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Nah he's played for Palace to recently - Cant trust him.barstool said:How about Gary Cahill as player coach with an experienced No 2, seemed to work in the past4 -
Matt Taylor deserves credit for what he’s done at Exeter and it will be interesting to see how he does there next season. If he stays
on a separate note I played golf with him just before he left us and he was one of the nicest blokes I’ve met! He actually spoke to us as opposed to just standard cliched answers. He was open and honest which we’d all agree we want in a manager. Who knows if he’s got the necessary steel in him to manage some of the bigger characters we have in comparison to Exeter???
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I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table7 -
He should be the new Dr WhoSwisdom said:Matt Taylor deserves credit for what he’s done at Exeter and it will be interesting to see how he does there next season. If he stays
on a separate note I played golf with him just before he left us and he was one of the nicest blokes I’ve met! He actually spoke to us as opposed to just standard cliched answers. He was open and honest which we’d all agree we want in a manager. Who knows if he’s got the necessary steel in him to manage some of the bigger characters we have in comparison to Exeter???0 -
What rose tinted glasses... I didnt even mention us in that post?paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
I'm just basing my opinion on what Exeter have achieved in the past, combined with the fact they're fan owned - If they can get promoted to the Championship then they'll have done an excellent job, but I'd be surprised if they achieved it.
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You were eluding to the fact as I read it, that a move to us would be a step up, I was merely playing devils advocate and saying that maybe we see ourselves above others unnecessarily now. We as a fan base would have got the right arse if people had said we’d reached our ceiling when in the championship, to then get promoted to the prem. all I’m saying is we no longer have a right to put tickets on ourselves as a club. We are being caught up and overtaken.ForeverAddickted said:
What rose tinted glasses... I didnt even mention us in that post?paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
I'm just basing my opinion on what Exeter have achieved in the past, combined with the fact they're fan owned - If they can get promoted to the Championship then they'll have done an excellent job, but I'd be surprised if they achieved it.0 -
This page has convinced me Matt Taylor is the guy to lead us to the Prem. All aboard the Matt Taylor bandwagon.10
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Exeter City have never been higher than L1/D3 in their history.
They have spent the vast majority of their history in L2.
Charlton have played in The Premier League and D1 and have won the FA Cup.
Charlton have never played in L2.
Moving to Charlton would obviously be a step up, end of story, unless you think Exeter are on a par with Charlton, Sunderland, Sheff W, Ipswich, Portsmouth etc.
They are temporarily in the same division, nothing more and nothing less.
You may as well say Brentford to Liverpool or Man U wouldn't be a step up.15 -
I think Exeter will look at Burton, Yeovil, Wycombe etc and think that could be them within a season or three.Yes it’s more common than not that such teams find it hard to break through to the next level but I’m sure Taylor believes they have the set-up in place to emulate those other team’s successes.
Edit to add the below paragraphs:Taylor would need to be convinced that Sandgaard’s intentions are serious to consider moving at this point in time IMO.
It’s not impossible though. Look at Wilder who left Northampton for Sheff Utd the season after getting them promoted.3 -
They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition.paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table3 -
And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back. Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were.Jints said:
They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition.paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table1 -
I think you'll find Exeter have never played in The Premier League and aren't owned by a stinking rich owner.2
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after watching that clip, i want Warburton...7
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Your putting words in my mouth with the last bit of bollox, all the wonderful history you give as an argument doesn’t mean fuckall while we are finishing mid table league 1. Maybe look at the company we were keeping in the last league table,not the examples of sides you are comparing us to for the reality. That’s where we are at the moment.Covered End said:Exeter City have never been higher than L1/D3 in their history.
They have spent the vast majority of their history in L2.
Charlton have played in The Premier League and D1 and have won the FA Cup.
Charlton have never played in L2.
Moving to Charlton would obviously be a step up, end of story, unless you think Exeter are on a par with Charlton, Sunderland, Sheff W, Ipswich, Portsmouth etc.
They are temporarily in the same division, nothing more and nothing less.
You may as well say Brentford to Liverpool or Man U wouldn't be a step up.1 -
Are you saying it will never happen for a fact? No you can not. It could happen to any number of clubs. Bournemouth didn’t always have that rich owner.Covered End said:I think you'll find Exeter have never played in The Premier League and aren't owned by a stinking rich owner.2 -
Bournemouth had a rich ambitious owner funding them. There will be plenty of examples of managers leaving smaller League 1 clubs for the bigger clubs in the division, regardless of whether that bigger club finished mid table. Managers think they’ll be the one to turn them around. And if the club has been a basket case in recent seasons then they have an ideal excuse if it doesn’t happen.paulfox said:
And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back. Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were.Jints said:
They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition.paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table1 -
But the original point that was being made is that right now Exeter are unlikely to be able to push a great deal higher with their resources. It's entirely possible that Taylor is sat around thinking 'I'll never leave, what if a billionaire buys us tomorrow!' but more likely he would view Charlton and Exeter the way he did when he was a player, which is that one has the resources and set-up to climb higher in the pyramid than the other, which likely makes Charlton a more attractive prospect. It's not disrespectful to recognise a gulf in resource.paulfox said:
Are you saying it will never happen for a fact? No you can not. It could happen to any number of clubs. Bournemouth didn’t always have that rich owner.Covered End said:I think you'll find Exeter have never played in The Premier League and aren't owned by a stinking rich owner.
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