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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Let's face it whoever gets appointed is going to cause a meltdown on here 🤭7
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Garrymanilow said:
Are we sure he doesn't already work for us?TootingRedArmy said:I asked a QPR mate what he thought of Warburton.......he sent several texts......made interesting reading...
"He's good. You'll pass it around from the back and play nice passing football. He improves players and talks eloquently. On the downside we have had several runs of 6/7 losses in a row and the reason he left was because he didn't seem to be able to motivate the players to grind out a result when you need to. His calm nature then gets a little repetitive and his lack of a plan B can frustrate. He has left us in a lot better place than we were. He likes keepers that can pass out from the back."
"We lost 60+ goals from BOS, Eze, Nakhi Wells and Jordan Hugill and should've got in the playoffs regardless. He's worked miracles really. Our recent form has been catastrophic - far far worse than the bottom club so we almost didn't have a choice. All our players got injured tailend of the season and with AFCON destroyed us. That and we're on our SEVENTH keeper of the season. Unbelievable. The whole thing has been incredibly depressing. At a guess 7 points out of the last 42?"
"Calendar year of 2021 we were automatic promotion form. His runs are great when you're winning. Definitely a good manager to grab if you can."
"Last 18 games: W3 D3 L12."I think it's more a case that we tend to imagine that it's only us who makes bad decisions, have injury troubles, go on bad runs, sign players who don't do well for us etc. etc., when the truth is this goes on up and down the game at every club. Some clubs suffer from a bit more (they tend to be near the bottom of the table), while others suffer a bit less (and tend to be near the top of the table), but I'm not sure it's always because of some grand plan, luck comes into it too, not that is all just luck either.Man City effed up a 2 goal cushion in a Champions League semi final with only injury time to play - that sounds like about the most "Charlton" thing possible (other than the Champions League bit, obviously, or the semi-final bit for that matter), but instead it happened to the richest club in the world while being managed by, arguably, the coach of his generation. Sometimes shit happens.6 -
The more I think about it, the more I want Michael Beale.3
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Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.1 -
Yes my grammar was poor ................ much like your spelling. But this is a public forum not an examination.Covered End said:
charltonbob you mispoke.charltonbob said:
I think you may have misinterpreted my post (or my bad English). When I said taken a back seat I meant from recruitment & was now seen more as just the negotiator. Again my opinion, no factual evidence.ShootersHillGuru said:
What evidence is there you can share that Gallen has taken a back seat in negotiating? That’s his strong point according to the owner. Still crack on with the endless stream of negativitycharltonbob said:
Bit late to the party as usual but think the same, why would a decent quality manager want to come to a club where the owner/CEO is based in the States with no experience of running a football club but won't employ or listen to experienced football people & our recruitment boffin is his son who again has no experience in football other than having a hard shot. Gallen appears to have taken a back seat as negotiator. It's a recipe for disaster & we'll end up with someone simply happy to take a wage & eventual pay off.carly burn said:Quite how we are going to sign a manager with any real quality when our current head of scouting and recruitment was a travelling medical salesman less than two years ago is anyone's guess?
"You said Gallen appears to have taken a back seat as negotiator".
Now you say you meant a back seat from recruitment.
Gallen is THE negotiator and also involved in the recruitment.
It isn't a case of "Now I say" as though I have changed my mind. I made the point that it appears sandgaard jnr is getting more involved in recruitment while Gallen has taken a step backwards & seems to be viewed as a negotiator more than anything going by quotes I've seen recently by Sandgaard Snr. It made sense to me as I rushed to post before going out, next time I'll try & take a little more care. Many apologies for confusing you.
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Like Lavelle did you mean?paulfox said:
I’ve not once said that, simply playing devils advocate,I’m saying it’s not as much as a big pull as it once may have been, there are a lot of people on here telling us TS doesn’t know what he’s doing, so based on that why would someone want to leave the stability of an improving side and the potential of another, good season off the back of promotion that isn’t unusual to see. I really doesn’t matter what I believe the proof will be in the pudding next season, however you are welcome to think,what ever I believe to suit your narrative. It doesn’t matter how big a club we think we may be if we keep losing 20 odd games in league 1.cafcfan1990 said:
So, genuinely you do not believe leaving Exeter for Charlton would be a step up?paulfox said:
My original point was, it’s unfair to disregard Exeter from progressing up the ladder because they are a small club, we were not loaded when we went up with curbs and regarded as not being that large a club. Just because we have had relative success quite a while ago now, we should not expect a lower league manager to think it’s a great upward progression. The loling on here because someone doesn’t agree is becoming fucking rediculous, disagreeing is fine, but if it makes people feel better the fill ya boots.🤣Scoham said:
Bournemouth had a rich ambitious owner funding them. There will be plenty of examples of managers leaving smaller League 1 clubs for the bigger clubs in the division, regardless of whether that bigger club finished mid table. Managers think they’ll be the one to turn them around. And if the club has been a basket case in recent seasons then they have an ideal excuse if it doesn’t happen.paulfox said:
And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back. Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were.Jints said:
They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition.paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table0 -
The Red Robin said:The more I think about it, the more I want Michael Beale.
Don't think he's coming.0 -
Oh dear, it's gonna drag on ain't it?
Same old same old Charlton!0 -
You're persistent, I'll give you that.carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
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cafcfan1990 said:
Like Lavelle did .paulfox said:
I’ve not once said that, simply playing devils advocate,I’m saying it’s not as much as a big pull as it once may have been, there are a lot of people on here telling us TS doesn’t know what he’s doing, so based on that why would someone want to leave the stability of an improving side and the potential of another, good season off the back of promotion that isn’t unusual to see. I really doesn’t matter what I believe the proof will be in the pudding next season, however you are welcome to think,what ever I believe to suit your narrative. It doesn’t matter how big a club we think we may be if we keep losing 20 odd games in league 1.cafcfan1990 said:
So, genuinely you do not believe leaving Exeter for Charlton would be a step up?paulfox said:
My original point was, it’s unfair to disregard Exeter from progressing up the ladder because they are a small club, we were not loaded when we went up with curbs and regarded as not being that large a club. Just because we have had relative success quite a while ago now, we should not expect a lower league manager to think it’s a great upward progression. The loling on here because someone doesn’t agree is becoming fucking rediculous, disagreeing is fine, but if it makes people feel better the fill ya boots.🤣Scoham said:
Bournemouth had a rich ambitious owner funding them. There will be plenty of examples of managers leaving smaller League 1 clubs for the bigger clubs in the division, regardless of whether that bigger club finished mid table. Managers think they’ll be the one to turn them around. And if the club has been a basket case in recent seasons then they have an ideal excuse if it doesn’t happen.paulfox said:
And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back. Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were.Jints said:
They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition.paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table0 - Sponsored links:
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Just popped in to see what the latest is.
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Yes.Redrobo said:
Plymouth?JamesSeed said:
Not for long ;-)shirty5 said:
Taylor’s family are based in the North WestJamesSeed said:
He’ll probably join us to cut down on the travelling.paulfox said:
I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.Clem_Snide said:I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.
But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
[PS ;-) doesn’t me I know something, sadly.]Exter must cover more miles on their travels than practically any other club I’m guessing. Apart from Torquay maybe?
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Is that right?Swisdom said:
FunnyThe Red Robin said:
He should be the new Dr WhoSwisdom said:Matt Taylor deserves credit for what he’s done at Exeter and it will be interesting to see how he does there next season. If he stays
on a separate note I played golf with him just before he left us and he was one of the nicest blokes I’ve met! He actually spoke to us as opposed to just standard cliched answers. He was open and honest which we’d all agree we want in a manager. Who knows if he’s got the necessary steel in him to manage some of the bigger characters we have in comparison to Exeter???
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Yeah... it be emptyCallumcafc said:This utopian vision that is taking hold won’t have any basis in reality.Fans are fickle. Can you imagine the Covered End if we were still nowhere near getting out of this league in April 2025?0 -
No it won’t .. think by end of next week we will have a new managersoapy_jones said:Oh dear, it's gonna drag on ain't it?
Same old same old Charlton!2 -
That's a guarantee that it will take ages...RonnieMoore said:
No it won’t .. think by end of next week we will have a new managersoapy_jones said:Oh dear, it's gonna drag on ain't it?
Same old same old Charlton!4 -
I want some more Exeter discussion.0
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I have a feeling it will be someone of his ilk.redbuttle said:The Red Robin said:The more I think about it, the more I want Michael Beale.
Don't think he's coming.
Will we offer competitive contracts to get the best in, that's my concern.
I think TS sees us as a scale up organisation, you try the cheap options first then spend if/when that fails. I'm not sure after trying the cheap that he'll be able to afford the spending required as even the cheap costs millions per season.0 - Sponsored links:
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To be fair Thomas has spent on the expensive options. Adkins, Stockley, Kirk, Aneke and Fraser were not cheap by league 1 standards at all.Dazzler21 said:
I have a feeling it will be someone of his ilk.redbuttle said:The Red Robin said:The more I think about it, the more I want Michael Beale.
Don't think he's coming.
Will we offer competitive contracts to get the best in, that's my concern.
I think TS sees us as a scale up organisation, you try the cheap options first then spend if/when that fails. I'm not sure after trying the cheap that he'll be able to afford the spending required as even the cheap costs millions per season.
You can question how he has spent it but he hasn't tried to do it all on the cheap.
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Most the signings made towards the start of the window have turned out to be good ish signings. It was the summer signings after the Wigan defeat which have been terrible. Arter, Leko etc (Lavelle being a obvious exception). It’s obvious what went wrong and hope the board and new manager won’t make that mistake again.Cafc43v3r said:
To be fair Thomas has spent on the expensive options. Adkins, Stockley, Kirk, Aneke and Fraser were not cheap by league 1 standards at all.Dazzler21 said:
I have a feeling it will be someone of his ilk.redbuttle said:The Red Robin said:The more I think about it, the more I want Michael Beale.
Don't think he's coming.
Will we offer competitive contracts to get the best in, that's my concern.
I think TS sees us as a scale up organisation, you try the cheap options first then spend if/when that fails. I'm not sure after trying the cheap that he'll be able to afford the spending required as even the cheap costs millions per season.
You can question how he has spent it but he hasn't tried to do it all on the cheap.1 -
Who ever get the gig at Charlton, I hope they are luckier than Bows, Natkins, and JJ when it comes to injuries.
On the law of averages if we can sign fitter, players to start with then the 'curse' may disappear because we used to get players that played every match.
I say curse because Corey Gibbs played 100 games after leaving Cafc where he didn't play and Page has played 70 odd games in the last two seasons.
I don't blame the medical staff as different medical staff had the same thing happen.0 -
It did take quite a radical change of system to get the best out of them. Good players certainly. The right players at the right time? Still question marks for me.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Most the signings made towards the start of the window have turned out to be good ish signings. It was the summer signings after the Wigan defeat which have been terrible. Arter, Leko etc (Lavelle being a obvious exception). It’s obvious what went wrong and hope the board and new manager won’t make that mistake again.Cafc43v3r said:
To be fair Thomas has spent on the expensive options. Adkins, Stockley, Kirk, Aneke and Fraser were not cheap by league 1 standards at all.Dazzler21 said:
I have a feeling it will be someone of his ilk.redbuttle said:The Red Robin said:The more I think about it, the more I want Michael Beale.
Don't think he's coming.
Will we offer competitive contracts to get the best in, that's my concern.
I think TS sees us as a scale up organisation, you try the cheap options first then spend if/when that fails. I'm not sure after trying the cheap that he'll be able to afford the spending required as even the cheap costs millions per season.
You can question how he has spent it but he hasn't tried to do it all on the cheap.1 -
I think Bowyers obsession with Bielsa’s murder-ball probably hurt a few players fitness! It seems we went to far the other way under Nige and by the time JJ got on board the players didn’t have a fucking clue what was expected of them!Nsoapboxsam said:Who ever get the gig at Charlton, I hope they are luckier than Bows, Natkins, and JJ when it comes to injuries.
On the law of averages if we can sign fitter, players to start with then the 'curse' may disappear because we used to get players that played every match.
I say curse because Corey Gibbs played 100 games after leaving Cafc where he didn't play and Page has played 70 odd games in the last two seasons.
I don't blame the medical staff as different medical staff had the same thing happen.
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IMO without two decent full backs on either side we were always going to struggle. Those are the key positions which needed recruitment in both windows and never happened. Surely anyone in football would have noticed and identified that. We got lucky with CBT towards the end.Cafc43v3r said:
It did take quite a radical change of system to get the best out of them. Good players certainly. The right players at the right time? Still question marks for me.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Most the signings made towards the start of the window have turned out to be good ish signings. It was the summer signings after the Wigan defeat which have been terrible. Arter, Leko etc (Lavelle being a obvious exception). It’s obvious what went wrong and hope the board and new manager won’t make that mistake again.Cafc43v3r said:
To be fair Thomas has spent on the expensive options. Adkins, Stockley, Kirk, Aneke and Fraser were not cheap by league 1 standards at all.Dazzler21 said:
I have a feeling it will be someone of his ilk.redbuttle said:The Red Robin said:The more I think about it, the more I want Michael Beale.
Don't think he's coming.
Will we offer competitive contracts to get the best in, that's my concern.
I think TS sees us as a scale up organisation, you try the cheap options first then spend if/when that fails. I'm not sure after trying the cheap that he'll be able to afford the spending required as even the cheap costs millions per season.
You can question how he has spent it but he hasn't tried to do it all on the cheap.3 -
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To say Popovic isnt in the same class, is quoting the obvious, but is being very disrespectful to the OZ A League. Most players that come here ( Carl Jenkinson M F for newly cowned champion leaders Melbourne City )would surely attest, that it is a far higher standard and intensity than most thinkozaddick said:
Ange is a brilliant manager. His style and tactical knowledge is superb. He's had success pretty much everywhere he's gone, over many many years.paulg1947 said:I dont know many managers over there but Ange Postecoglou from Melbourne Australia took on Glasgow Celtic last year, and has now been voted Scottish manager of the year.
I have an uncanny feeling in my water that ex Palarce CB Tony Popovich now manging Melbourne Victory and has taken them on i think 13 matches undefeated (unfortuately being a City supporter) Is a bolter to watch in future, Remember the name
A more realistic choice would have to be Powell or Curbs There seems something wrong with a London team ,run by a manager with a Northern accent .Dont worry Ange and Poppa have accents similar to Sarf London
Popovich isn't in the same class, but a decent manager at A league level. Can't see TS's net casting that wide tbh.
Aussies sounding like us...?! 🤣🤣 I've been here nearly 30 years, and people wonder how I still speak with a London accent after all these years, and I tell them, I don't want to sound stupid!
And because man management is a very high prority for a good manager. Is it really that important what league they work in ?
I hate Victory, and feel that they will at least reach the final (Play offs)--- Poppa, has them running like a well oiled machine, built around a solid defense, like all successful teams are. With a high press.--- Top 3 finishings, with 3 ex Premier league players as managers
Melbourne City Managed by Paddy Kisnorbo
Melbourne Victory Managed by Tony Popovich
Western United Managed by John Allouisi
I am not saying that any of the above ,would realistically be in the running for Charlton, but i have a gut feeling that TP is only just starting as a manager ,and one to watch .He has gone 15 games without defeat now .If Graham Arnold gets booted out of the National team coaching job (likely if OZ fail to reach the W C finals, after 2 team play offs) Poppa may get his job.
If the final is between City and Victory (2-3 weeks time) i urge our scouting staff to check out 3 under 23s for Victory ,and 2-3 the same for City-- Connor Metcalf (City) is already off to Hearts--- Sorry its a bit off topic, but i'l nominate my choice any way
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Do you think the CL pages record is going to be broken on this post??
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It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.
The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.
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