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Seth Plum's (the real one) 1923 England cap now in the Museum
Henry Irving
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You know all that money we raise from selling stuff on here and ebay or from your donations?
Well, we raise the money so that when we are offered an unique item from the club's history we can buy it.
Seth Plum was part of the Charlton giant killing side of 1923 and that was a factor in him being called up to play for England.v France. England won 4 - 1 with Plum at right half.
Despite the result he was never picked again for his country but he will forever be our first ever international.
So when we were offered the chance to buy his cap we couldn't pass up the opportunity.
Thanks to @seth plum who made a very generous donation to the cost of his namesake's headwear but any other Addicks feel free to chip in too.
Caps then were colour coded for each game and not the uniform blue with the three lions issued now hence why it is strawberry and cream.
It has gone straight on display, in an alarmed cabinet, in the Museum.
Well, we raise the money so that when we are offered an unique item from the club's history we can buy it.
Seth Plum was part of the Charlton giant killing side of 1923 and that was a factor in him being called up to play for England.v France. England won 4 - 1 with Plum at right half.
Despite the result he was never picked again for his country but he will forever be our first ever international.
So when we were offered the chance to buy his cap we couldn't pass up the opportunity.
Thanks to @seth plum who made a very generous donation to the cost of his namesake's headwear but any other Addicks feel free to chip in too.
Caps then were colour coded for each game and not the uniform blue with the three lions issued now hence why it is strawberry and cream.
It has gone straight on display, in an alarmed cabinet, in the Museum.
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thought that was the only sort of cabinet we had now?
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Well done the Museum!! And well played @sethplum - typical generosity. I would also like to contribute, if I may. Bulls-eye on its way.
Pwopa Charlton still as strong as ever.
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I went along to the excellent museum be reunited with my old headgear, but the bastards made me leave it behind.11
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By strange co-incidence, our @seth plum also has a cap dating back to about 1923, as well as a scarf and a nice pair of hobnail boots.
But his neck is not as long and black as the poor guy in the photo....
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GHF a generous contribution yourself sir.
Charlton Athletic a club founded in the grim industrial Thameside streets by 15 year old boys has its first full England international within 18 years.2 -
Excellent work by all at the museum. *doffs cap*1
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You mean @seth plum is imaginary.0
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He has a great imagination 😁thai malaysia addick said:You mean @seth plum is imaginary.1 -
How much does an item like this cost?
It's a joy that the museum are able bring all these bit of memorabilia together.0 -
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When he’s not gambling...Henry Irving said:
He has a great imagination 😁thai malaysia addick said:You mean @seth plum is imaginary.1 -
The seller had bought it for £200.PopIcon said:How much does an item like this cost?
It's a joy that the museum are able bring all these bit of memorabilia together.
He offered it to the museum for £2,500.
We had it valued independently and offered £1200 which is what it was likely to fetch in a football auction and it was accepted.
£1200 is a hell of a lot of money for the Museum but it's a very special item from our very early history.3 -
If the cap fits.......2
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99 years ago today Seth Plum became our first ever international.2
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Little know fact but massive meat eater was Seth, particularly horse meat. Nickname was The Butcher4
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…the bastard.0
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Think you might me confusing him with William "porky" Bonner, founding member of the club and great grandfather of the current Cambridge manager.AFKABartram said:Little know fact but massive meat eater was Seth, particularly horse meat. Nickname was The Butcher
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Why did the great Seth Plum only get one cap ?
You play in a 4-1 win for England and get 7.2 average mark on the players scores; confirmed by Lancs lad. Cafc were good in the cup in those days ( blimey, must've been a long time ago) which brought Seth to the attention of the selectors !)
Was Frank Moss of Villa or Harry Panting of Sheffield United better Right halves than our Seth who at 23 was only going to improve; that's a rhetorical question as the answer is NO.
A guy called Jimmy Seed was an inside right for England in 1923 who was decent (uncertain what happened to him ?) and a centre forward called Charles Buchan.
A plumsted born boy who played for his local team ? Woolwich Arsenal before having a good career at Sunderland and being a Journalist, remembered by the senior CL members: Charles Buchan football Monthly.
They say in life it's not where you start but where you end up. Charles Buchan was born in Plumsted and ended up in Monte Carlo.
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Actually, KillerJerryLee researched this for the Valiant 1000
Plum did well but wouldn't stop going on about Irish home rule and the league of nations in the dressing room so he was banned by the selection committee.
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I n the 1901 census Charles Buchan was a youngster living in Nyanza Street Plumstead. In 1911 he is shown as a boarder in a hotel in Sunderland having joined them from Arsenal.0
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The great nephew of Seth Plum visited the museum today to see his ancestor's England cap.
He's looking forward to Enfield Town drawing Charlton in the London Senior Cup
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He's a lot taller than his relativeHenry Irving said:The great nephew of Seth Plum visited the museum today to see his ancestor's England cap.
He's looking forward to Enfield Town drawing Charlton in the London Senior Cup0 -
That's brilliant - well done the Museum.1
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Is it an argumentative cap ?0
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Interesting that his relative follows Enfield.Henry Irving said:The great nephew of Seth Plum visited the museum today to see his ancestor's England cap.
He's looking forward to Enfield Town drawing Charlton in the London Senior Cup
His relative played for their great historic rivals Barnet before he joined us.0
