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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    sam3110 said:
    Why is Jason Euell posting an old picture of himself with Ian Evatt (Bolton Manager) on Instagram?
    I noticed that. Wouldn’t surprise me if he jumped ship 
    Might not be a bad thing, like others have said... Proper restart from top to bottom
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    sm said:
    cfgs said:
    Uboat said:
    I want some more Exeter discussion. 
    Nice place, usually warmer than here and drier.  The University is very secluded but still only a short walk from the city centre, it even has a duck crossing.  
    Disagree - it's wetter.
    Statistically you’re right. 

    Matt Taylor is back ON. 
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    Victor
    Hasselbaink 3/1
    Warburton 4/1
    Bowyer 5/1
    Lennon 5/1
    Beale 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Taylor 10/1

    Will Hill
    Warburton 4/1
    Lennon 4/1
    Bowyer 6/1
    Hasselbaink 8/1
    Beale 9/1
    Ferguson 10/1
    Taylor 10/1
    nice to see Lyle in the betting,player manager perhaps? TBH im still shocked Bowyer has gone
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Victor
    Hasselbaink 3/1
    Warburton 4/1
    Bowyer 5/1
    Lennon 5/1
    Beale 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Taylor 10/1

    Will Hill
    Warburton 4/1
    Lennon 4/1
    Bowyer 6/1
    Hasselbaink 8/1
    Beale 9/1
    Ferguson 10/1
    Taylor 10/1
    nice to see Lyle in the betting,player manager perhaps? TBH im still shocked Bowyer has gone
    We're a little ambitious trying to get Alex Ferguson out of retirement though
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.

    The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.

    A. we don't have a new manager but are taking time to appoint one.

    B. We don't have a manager because no one wants to join us. 

    C. We don't have a manager because our targets season hasn't ended yet.

    D. We have a manager in place, just not yet announced as players are on holiday.

    E. It was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking and we have started from scratch.

    Just highlighting the other options A-D feel much more likely.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited May 2022
    Victor
    Hasselbaink 3/1
    Warburton 4/1
    Bowyer 5/1
    Lennon 5/1
    Beale 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Taylor 10/1

    Will Hill
    Warburton 4/1
    Lennon 4/1
    Bowyer 6/1
    Hasselbaink 8/1
    Beale 9/1
    Ferguson 10/1
    Taylor 10/1
    So Victor is the favourite- what are his odds though? And as for Will Hill - Benny’s son no doubt.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Victor
    Hasselbaink 3/1
    Warburton 4/1
    Bowyer 5/1
    Lennon 5/1
    Beale 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Taylor 10/1

    Will Hill
    Warburton 4/1
    Lennon 4/1
    Bowyer 6/1
    Hasselbaink 8/1
    Beale 9/1
    Ferguson 10/1
    Taylor 10/1
    nice to see Lyle in the betting,player manager perhaps? TBH im still shocked Bowyer has gone
    We're a little ambitious trying to get Alex Ferguson out of retirement though
    This is us.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

    John Lennon 
    Ian Beale 
    Sarah Ferguson
    Elizabeth Taylor
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    Victor
    Hasselbaink 3/1
    Warburton 4/1
    Bowyer 5/1
    Lennon 5/1
    Beale 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Taylor 10/1

    Will Hill
    Warburton 4/1
    Lennon 4/1
    Bowyer 6/1
    Hasselbaink 8/1
    Beale 9/1
    Ferguson 10/1
    Taylor 10/1
    nice to see Lyle in the betting,player manager perhaps? TBH im still shocked Bowyer has gone
    We're a little ambitious trying to get Alex Ferguson out of retirement though
    This is us.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

    John Lennon 
    Ian Beale 
    Sarah Ferguson
    Elizabeth Taylor
    Ian Beale - Ive Got Nothing Left on Make a GIF

    Same Ian...Same...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Victor
    Hasselbaink 3/1
    Warburton 4/1
    Bowyer 5/1
    Lennon 5/1
    Beale 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Taylor 10/1

    Will Hill
    Warburton 4/1
    Lennon 4/1
    Bowyer 6/1
    Hasselbaink 8/1
    Beale 9/1
    Ferguson 10/1
    Taylor 10/1
    nice to see Lyle in the betting,player manager perhaps? TBH im still shocked Bowyer has gone
    We're a little ambitious trying to get Alex Ferguson out of retirement though
    This is us.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

    John Lennon 
    Ian Beale 
    Sarah Ferguson
    Elizabeth Taylor
    God imagine Sandgaard thinking that he was interviewing John - "Always knew that your assassination was a conspiracy theory, wanna make a comeback and join my band" 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    sam3110 said:
    Why is Jason Euell posting an old picture of himself with Ian Evatt (Bolton Manager) on Instagram?
    I noticed that. Wouldn’t surprise me if he jumped ship 
    Might not be a bad thing, like others have said... Proper restart from top to bottom
    I’d be a little disappointed that we’re losing all the proper Charlton people one by one. Chris Parkes, JJ, Euell, etc. 

    I’m happy for a fresh start but I think the club operates best when theirs a connection between the fans and management team.
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  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    sam3110 said:
    Why is Jason Euell posting an old picture of himself with Ian Evatt (Bolton Manager) on Instagram?
    I noticed that. Wouldn’t surprise me if he jumped ship 
    Might not be a bad thing, like others have said... Proper restart from top to bottom
    I’d be a little disappointed that we’re losing all the proper Charlton people one by one. Chris Parkes, JJ, Euell, etc. 

    I’m happy for a fresh start but I think the club operates best when theirs a connection between the fans and management team.
    Rose tinted nonsense
  • RoanRedNY
    RoanRedNY Posts: 1,147
    Dazzler21 said:
    It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.

    The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.

    A. we don't have a new manager but are taking time to appoint one.

    B. We don't have a manager because no one wants to join us. 

    C. We don't have a manager because our targets season hasn't ended yet.

    D. We have a manager in place, just not yet announced as players are on holiday.

    E. It was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking and we have started from scratch.

    Just highlighting the other options A-D feel much more likely.
    To be fair, any one of A-D is not necessarily mutually exclusive to E
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    RoanRedNY said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.

    The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.

    A. we don't have a new manager but are taking time to appoint one.

    B. We don't have a manager because no one wants to join us. 

    C. We don't have a manager because our targets season hasn't ended yet.

    D. We have a manager in place, just not yet announced as players are on holiday.

    E. It was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking and we have started from scratch.

    Just highlighting the other options A-D feel much more likely.
    To be fair, any one of A-D is not necessarily mutually exclusive to E
    maybe not, but unlikely imo. 
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    I think we need to always remember the hours we were away from extinction. Then 'enter sandman' and we not only remained in existence but brought quality in many. areas of the club. Developing players, improving the excellent youth set up and infrastructure of the club. It's on a sound footing. Sandman didn't come in with a sledgehammer firing everyone. He gave current incumbent Lee Bowyer the benefit of the doubt (good decision). Didn't stand in his way (good decision) when he went to Brum. Hired what seemed a safe and experienced and proven pair of hands in Smiley Nige (good decision after the limited tactics of Bowyer). Acted to stop the decline and fired him (another good decision). Gave the untried JJ his first taste of management and didn't hurry to give him a contract but gave him a prolonged period of caretaker boss (another good decision) His first glaringly poor decision I feel was bowing to the unrelenting clamour from 'experts' aka fans! and gave him the job permanently. First whiff of pressure and the whole thing nose-dived. And saying JJ was part of his plans for next season only weeks ago (wrong decision) He owns the club. And while he can't simply do as he wants a la Roland Shathouse of yesteryear. He CAN hire and fire who he deems is right or not right for the progress of the club. And overall, silly comments aside, I think he has done a lot right. And firing JJ was also the right decision. He was righting the wrong decision of hiring him on a permanent in the first place. 

    I am confident that he will hire THE RIGHT guy for this time. He has seen enough to know that tired old managers well past their best are no good. And untried glorified team coaches are not suitable either. And if he IS the RIGHT guy, he will get this club up in a year. I'd lose the whole frontline and bring in quality. So many games last season were lost not simply by JJ ineptitude but misfiring strikers. Missington particularly. But Stuckley too. 

    Would really like to see Warburton. Definitely. would NOT want Hasselblad, Hughton, Evans or Ferguson take the reigns. 






    The problem is if he did interview them all, they all probably all talk a good game, otherwise they wouldn’t have got jobs, how does he differentiate between them all, apart from them telling him what he wants to hear?
    Yes I agree and my biggest fear is that Hasselblad would talk just the right talk for the progressive TS. TS likes the Blairite smooth cack as we saw with the appt of fake Smiley Nige. TS can control these types. But bring in a John Terry or a Joey Barton (now THAT would be fun!) Or a Cloughie or Fergie and there be war! 
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    RedRobin said:
    I feel going down the younger coach route would be the way forward to build something at the club. 

    Does anyone think any of our existing coaches would throw their hat in the ring, i.e. Anthony Hayes or Hamza Serrar? 
    Hamza Serrar looks good. If Warburton is out of our range I'd give Serrar a crack. I've got a feeling that that "manager to take us up the pyramid" is under our noses all along!  Can't see TS going for it. Hamza seems like his own man with his own ideas. Far too "dangerous" for the likes of TS I'd guess. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.

    The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.

    'The fact'

    Except....its not is it.
    You mean someone has been appointed? 


  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.

    The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.

    I'd say his sacking was absolutely none of those.
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.

    The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.

    I'd say his sacking was absolutely none of those.
    He'd be the same person saying it was disgraceful to negotiate with another manager while JJ was still in charge.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,033
    Could be rubbish but Warburton apparently in talks with Birmingham

  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Think the pool we are fishing in is 

    Out of work or lower league managers.

    Can’t see anyone coming from a good club with TS calling all the shots. Not enough football DNA involved in football decisions. 
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited May 2022
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chunes said:
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    Out of order that, next clubs will be announcing players before the window opens.  Oh just us then.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Think the pool we are fishing in is 

    Out of work or lower league managers.

    Can’t see anyone coming from a good club with TS calling all the shots. Not enough football DNA involved in football decisions. 
    Also can’t see Sandgaard paying compensation for anyone. Hope I’m wrong. 
  • charltonman2016
    charltonman2016 Posts: 1,118
    Not saying he would come to us but Warburton would be mad to go to Birmingham. No hope of lasting long there.
  • charltonman2016
    charltonman2016 Posts: 1,118
    I see it's between Lee Johnson and Michael Appleton for the Hibernian Job.
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    Really can't see Warburton coming.
    From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.

    No way he'd come to this nut house.
    More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    Think the pool we are fishing in is 

    Out of work or lower league managers.

    Can’t see anyone coming from a good club with TS calling all the shots. Not enough football DNA involved in football decisions. 
    Do you think we are the only club where the owner is involved in decision making? 

    Afc Wimbledon have a committee of non footballing people who make all decisions on player contracts and transfers.

    that's one example. I reckon there are a lot more out of the 92. It's not 1970 where the local skip firm director buys the local club, funds it and takes a back seat. 

    Sandgaard invests £7m a year just to keep the club going, do yo blame him for wanting to know where his money is going or wanting to be involved in the process?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Not saying he would come to us but Warburton would be mad to go to Birmingham. No hope of lasting long there.
    Possibly, but they’ll have new owner, a division above us, will pay more than us and expectations are low. If he does well it sets him up nicely for his next job. Nothing to lose for him.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Warburton supposedly off to Birmingham.
    JFH ruled out.
    Lennon doesn’t fit the style of play mantra.

    I make it between Beale, Ferguson and Bonner .

    Beale after his first manager role?  

    Ferguson like him or not he does play attacking football.  Experience at this level.

    Bonner, done very well with limited resources, young and might see now as the best time to jump ship as the sharks are circling for their players.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I see nobody has mentioned Shadab Iftikhar yet.