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Laurence Bassini - Telegraph claims he's bought Birmingham subject to EFL approval (p8)

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  • Rothko said:
    What did happen with the winding up petition? 
    It got wound up
  • Sullivan - Bassini - Harris - the circus never ends.
    Surely this has no chance of getting through the "Owners Test" ? the bit that made me laugh is "If Bassini fails to meet the repayments" lol
  • Rothko said:
    What did happen with the winding up petition? 
    Got laughed in the paper recycling bin
  • Well, good luck Bowyer at Brum.

    Good news is Warburton was set, according to twitter rumours, to join BCFC under their new owners 😀 
  • Football is f*cked. How is that even allowed?
    I think Sullivan is selling or has sold West Ham
  • Football is f*cked. How is that even allowed?
    Presumably because all David Sullivan is here is a finance company. Nothing to do with BCFC. He only takes ownership of the real estate should the finance terms not be met. Security for his loan if you like.  
  • Presumably because all David Sullivan is here is a finance company. Nothing to do with BCFC. He only takes ownership of the real estate should the finance terms not be met. Security for his loan if you like.  
    Dodgy AF
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  • Mind you, I doubt Bassini will buy the club 
  • It all sounds a bit dodgy, that's obvious because Bassini is involved. Not sure on EFL rules but will probably be cleared if it's merely a loan (issue arises when Bassini fails to repay).  
  • clive said:

    EXCLUSIVE: David Sullivan is funding Laurence Bassini's proposed £35m bid to buy Birmingham City - and West Ham owner could regain control at St Andrew's if prospective buyer fails to repay £33m loan


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10802831/West-Ham-owner-David-Sullivan-funding-Laurence-Bassinis-proposed-35m-bid-buy-Birmingham-City.html
    that couldn't possibly be allowed, owning one club and having a controlling interest in another? 
  • Sounds to me like a purchase by Sullivan via the back door. He can’t own two clubs at once and he can’t sell WHU until next year without paying a hefty windfall tax.

    So he loans Bassini money to purchase Brum now and will effectively take it off him next year when Bassini can’t pay the loan repayments just after he flogs WHU, simples.
    It’s overwhelmingly certain that Sullivan has getting his hands on Birminghams real estate at the forefront of his decision to loan Bassini the money but even if Bassini defaults on the loan, Sullivan wouldn’t own BCFC any more than Duchatelet owns Charlton right now. The issue of owning two clubs doesn’t arise. 
  • It’s overwhelmingly certain that Sullivan has getting his hands on Birminghams real estate at the forefront of his decision to loan Bassini the money but even if Bassini defaults on the loan, Sullivan wouldn’t own BCFC any more than Duchatelet owns Charlton right now. The issue of owning two clubs doesn’t arise. 
    The EFL rules go further than just owning two clubs though. Also means someone can't be involved in certain affairs and there are also rules on lending/gifting money/guaranteeing debts. 
  • The EFL rules go further than just owning two clubs though. Also means someone can't be involved in certain affairs and there are also rules on lending/gifting money/guaranteeing debts. 
    Since when did Bassini or Sullivan care about rules?
  • The EFL rules go further than just owning two clubs though. Also means someone can't be involved in certain affairs and there are also rules on lending/gifting money/guaranteeing debts. 
    It won’t be Sullivan transferring the money out of his current account though will it. No doubt a vehicle company will be in place to make the loan and take ownership should the terms of the loan are not met. I have no doubt that if Sullivan wants this to go ahead it will. Thinking there are not ways around the inadequacy of EFL’s rules is very naive.
  • It won’t be Sullivan transferring the money out of his current account though will it. No doubt a vehicle company will be in place to make the loan and take ownership should the terms of the loan are not met. I have no doubt that if Sullivan wants this to go ahead it will. Thinking there are not ways around the inadequacy of EFL’s rules is very naive.
    but surely just knowing that ultimately its Sullivan's money means the fa couldn't possibly approve the takeover.
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    but surely just knowing that ultimately its Sullivan's money means the fa couldn't possibly approve the takeover.
    It would be the companies money not Sullivans. I’m not saying this is how it would be done but it’s seems most likely to me. There are plenty of people on this site that will be better informed about this sort of thing than me.
  • It won’t be Sullivan transferring the money out of his current account though will it. No doubt a vehicle company will be in place to make the loan and take ownership should the terms of the loan are not met. I have no doubt that if Sullivan wants this to go ahead it will. Thinking there are not ways around the inadequacy of EFL’s rules is very naive.
    I'm not being naive thank you. I don't trust the EFL but I think the FA are stronger. No it's not Sullivan's current account but it is a company he clearly owns, he's not trying to hide it. I have no doubt Sullivan will easily be able to take control of Birmingham's assets similar to the Roland comparison you make. Anything further will be blocked IMO. 
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    I'm not being naive thank you. I don't trust the EFL but I think the FA are stronger. No it's not Sullivan's current account but it is a company he clearly owns, he's not trying to hide it. I have no doubt Sullivan will easily be able to take control of Birmingham's assets similar to the Roland comparison you make. Anything further will be blocked IMO. 
    So assuming this goes ahead and Bassini defaults on the arrangement. Sullivan then takes Birminghams real estate into his ownership. Sells his share in WHU to David Gold in a friends arrangement where Gold then puts WHU up for sale and when the Hammers are sold he shares the profits with Sullivan and then both move in on BCFC. Possible ? 
  • So assuming this goes ahead and Bassini defaults on the arrangement. Sullivan then takes Birminghams real estate into his ownership. Sells his share in WHU to David Gold in a friends arrangement where Gold then puts WHU up for sale and when the Hammers are sold he shares the profits with Sullivan and then both move in on BCFC. Possible ? 
    It's possible defendant on the original deal with Bassini and Sullivan's company
  • It's possible defendant on the original deal with Bassini and Sullivan's company
    Well I’m sure Sullivan knows how to trade this deal so that he makes a good few million profit. 
  • Well I’m sure Sullivan knows how to trade this deal so that he makes a good few million profit. 
    Possibly. I don't know why Birmingham are only going for 32mil, I'm guessing it's due to debts. Allowing Bassini to take control risks the future of the club, are the assets going to be bring much profit? I doubt it. 
  • Possibly. I don't know why Birmingham are only going for 32mil, I'm guessing it's due to debts. Allowing Bassini to take control risks the future of the club, are the assets going to be bring much profit? I doubt it. 
    Gold and Sullivan sold BC for £81.5 million. If they sell WHU they’ll make a huge profit. Owning Birminghams stadium and training ground would give them good leverage to oust Bassini if it him that still owns the football club. They effectively get BC for peanuts making profits all along the route from owning BC to buying WHU to getting BC back again. Luvvly jubbly.
  • Gold and Sullivan sold BC for £81.5 million. If they sell WHU they’ll make a huge profit. Owning Birminghams stadium and training ground would give them good leverage to oust Bassini if it him that still owns the football club. They effectively get BC for peanuts making profits all along the route from owning BC to buying WHU to getting BC back again. Luvvly jubbly.
    If getting Birmingham for around 32mil is “peanuts”, why are the current owners selling for that amount? 
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    With my sceptical hat on, it’s just just a coincidence that Birmingham host the commonwealth games this summer with the Alexander Athletics Stadium having improvements meaning it can hold 30,000 with temporary seating after the event.
    Surely it can’t happen again.
  • Sounds to me like a purchase by Sullivan via the back door. He can’t own two clubs at once and he can’t sell WHU until next year without paying a hefty windfall tax.

    So he loans Bassini money to purchase Brum now and will effectively take it off him next year when Bassini can’t pay the loan repayments just after he flogs WHU, simples.
    With bassini getting a nice "thank you"
  • With my sceptical hat on, it’s just just a coincidence that Birmingham host the commonwealth games this summer with the Alexander Athletics Stadium having improvements meaning it can hold 30,000 with temporary seating after the event.
    Surely it can’t happen again.
    Ask Britney.... 
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