I do feel a bit like Watford rushed their appointment. Forest Green looked great for a lot of the season but they limped over the line at the end, only winning 4 of their last 17 games, losing 6 and drawing 7. They ended up only winning the title on goal difference (level with Matt Taylor's Exeter) and I feel like if the season had gone on a couple of weeks longer Bristol Rovers might have overtaken them. Some people are turning their noses up at Taylor signing for us as a League One manager but Watford have brought him in as a Championship manager with aims to be back in the Premier League after a year, a L2 manager with two thirds of an excellent season behind him. I hope he does well, I like him, but they've really not hung around on what is quite an ambitious appointment for him
I do feel a bit like Watford rushed their appointment. Forest Green looked great for a lot of the season but they limped over the line at the end, only winning 4 of their last 17 games, losing 6 and drawing 7. They ended up only winning the title on goal difference (level with Matt Taylor's Exeter) and I feel like if the season had gone on a couple of weeks longer Bristol Rovers might have overtaken them. Some people are turning their noses up at Taylor signing for us as a League One manager but Watford have brought him in as a Championship manager with aims to be back in the Premier League after a year, a L2 manager with two thirds of an excellent season behind him. I hope he does well, I like him, but they've really not hung around on what is quite an ambitious appointment for him
Unlike the Watford board to be rash in their decision making!
Cor woman cant manage men because of biological differences. JESUS christ what century are we in. Ive had female managers for the entirety of my 'career'. Some have managed me okay, some have managed me brilliantly one was a incompetent disaster. Nothing to do with a biological difference.
On a side note the only man who ever managed me for any period of time was a crystal palace supporting acholic bully.
Biological differences between men and women cor blimey wheres is the cave man mallet.
A close friend of mine (late 60's) Managed boys football teams when her lads were young. As they got older she continued and even when they packed in she continued. Don't get me wrong it wasn't Chelsea FC, but she was respected and headhunted at times, by rival men's teams, as she got numerous promotions etc. He son in his 40's was a UK national title speedskater and remains so in veterans class. As such her ability to coach and support sportsmen and women, is based on her people skills. She has gone toe to toe with blokes that got upset at being subbed or not picked and they've usually come back and apologised.
I'm not suggesting that a novice woman should manage Charlton, but an experienced female coach shouldn't be discounted.
As for men and women playing together (no innuendo) that is not going to happen.
Whoever we get I just hope that they are bloody successful and we secure promotion.
I do feel a bit like Watford rushed their appointment. Forest Green looked great for a lot of the season but they limped over the line at the end, only winning 4 of their last 17 games, losing 6 and drawing 7. They ended up only winning the title on goal difference (level with Matt Taylor's Exeter) and I feel like if the season had gone on a couple of weeks longer Bristol Rovers might have overtaken them. Some people are turning their noses up at Taylor signing for us as a League One manager but Watford have brought him in as a Championship manager with aims to be back in the Premier League after a year, a L2 manager with two thirds of an excellent season behind him. I hope he does well, I like him, but they've really not hung around on what is quite an ambitious appointment for him
When he was announced my mate said it makes him statistically the person least likely to be Watford manager, in the world at Christmas.
Another factor is will TS be giving out more these performance based contracts?
Not sure Beale would be happy to leave Villa if he gets very little compensation should we not make the play-offs.
It’s one thing to require the new manager to change the entire playing philosophy, which usually takes years, it’s another thing to expect immediate results.
I'd be happy with Carrick, Warburton, Beale or Taylor
Emma Hayes may well be the best candidate and someone somewhere will take a punt on her sooner rather than later - she's clearly very good at her job, but personally I think we are enough of a basket case club without the inevitable circus that will follow whichever professional men's team do appoint her. That and I don't particularly like her when I've heard her as a pundit etc. I'd rather appoint one of the other 4 mentioned and go quietly about our business assembling a team of free transfers to storm the league
Another factor is will TS be giving out more these performance based contracts?
Not sure Beale would be happy to leave Villa if he gets very little compensation should we not make the play-offs.
It’s one thing to require the new manager to change the entire playing philosophy, which usually takes years, it’s another thing to expect immediate results.
I think the contract Jackson got was because Thomas didn't want him in the first place and had already written off the season. If we had just missed out on the play offs he probably thought it would be worth sticking with him.
Another factor is will TS be giving out more these performance based contracts?
Not sure Beale would be happy to leave Villa if he gets very little compensation should we not make the play-offs.
It’s one thing to require the new manager to change the entire playing philosophy, which usually takes years, it’s another thing to expect immediate results.
I think the contract Jackson got was because Thomas didn't want him in the first place and had already written off the season. If we had just missed out on the play offs he probably thought it would be worth sticking with him.
Potentially, but Thomas spoke a lot about how much it cost him to sack Nigel. I don’t think he wants to incur that sort of cost again.
I’d be shocked if he didn’t follow the same sort of pattern with his next appointment, albeit less harsh deliverables.
Another factor is will TS be giving out more these performance based contracts?
Not sure Beale would be happy to leave Villa if he gets very little compensation should we not make the play-offs.
It’s one thing to require the new manager to change the entire playing philosophy, which usually takes years, it’s another thing to expect immediate results.
I think the contract Jackson got was because Thomas didn't want him in the first place and had already written off the season. If we had just missed out on the play offs he probably thought it would be worth sticking with him.
Another factor is will TS be giving out more these performance based contracts?
Not sure Beale would be happy to leave Villa if he gets very little compensation should we not make the play-offs.
It’s one thing to require the new manager to change the entire playing philosophy, which usually takes years, it’s another thing to expect immediate results.
You're right. We haven't even got to the contract wranglings yet. I fear another summer spent miles off the pace.
I do feel a bit like Watford rushed their appointment. Forest Green looked great for a lot of the season but they limped over the line at the end, only winning 4 of their last 17 games, losing 6 and drawing 7. They ended up only winning the title on goal difference (level with Matt Taylor's Exeter) and I feel like if the season had gone on a couple of weeks longer Bristol Rovers might have overtaken them. Some people are turning their noses up at Taylor signing for us as a League One manager but Watford have brought him in as a Championship manager with aims to be back in the Premier League after a year, a L2 manager with two thirds of an excellent season behind him. I hope he does well, I like him, but they've really not hung around on what is quite an ambitious appointment for him
When he was announced my mate said it makes him statistically the person least likely to be Watford manager, in the world at Christmas.
Agree. I might need a recount but Rob Edwards will be the 17th manager in 10 years and that doesn't include Hayden Mullins twice as caretaker. Pozzo has had more managers than Katie Price has had lovers ? That last sentence may be incorrect.
My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them here
My villa supporting mate who goes on villa life or whatever their equivalent is that there's a few rumblings of beale maybe leaving, probably just reaction to the Cawley stuff but thought it was worth mentioning.
My villa supporting mate who goes on villa life or whatever their equivalent is that there's a few rumblings of beale maybe leaving, probably just reaction to the Cawley stuff but thought it was worth mentioning.
Chelsea's women team manager is a bigger job then ours
People can laugh all they want on here but it’s true.
How do you define bigger then?
Higher profile, better paid, better infrastructure, she's still got ambitions around the Champions League and competing with Barcelona.
It's lower profile, isn't it? Compare the gates at The Valley and attendances at ordinary Chelsea Women's matches.
Infrastructure I wouldn't know about, but ours isn't bad, and set to improve.
Pay? How do you know?
Her ambitions about the Women's Champions League and competing with Barcelona, are not comparable with playing in the men's the Champions League and competing with Barcelona.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big supporter of women's football, but I don't think it's yet reached the stage where Chelsea's women's team is a bigger deal than Charlton.
Unfortunately, no one has told the BBC that, and they appear to truly believe that the woman's Premier League is second only to the mens. I am amazed that people are proposing a female manager. An it’s not about sexism, it’s easy to see on the internet, that the USA World Cup winning side, play some college boys teams of under 17 age group. They have never won one of those games….
Would we be happy to see an under 17 Manager of any sex, at any level, given the First Team coach role at Charlton… ?
My villa supporting mate who goes on villa life or whatever their equivalent is that there's a few rumblings of beale maybe leaving, probably just reaction to the Cawley stuff but thought it was worth mentioning.
Regarding any timing with Beale. When Gerrard was appointed Villa were on a 5 game losing streaks and worried about relegation. Therefore you would assume that Gerrard, and possibly his coaching team are on a bonus for securing safety, which would presumably be paid once.the season is complete.
That being the case, there's no way Beale would be leaving before the season ends on 22nd May, and possibly not leaving before the end of the month.
My villa supporting mate who goes on villa life or whatever their equivalent is that there's a few rumblings of beale maybe leaving, probably just reaction to the Cawley stuff but thought it was worth mentioning.
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The South London Press has been told that paying the compensation for Beale to leave Villa is not likely to be an issue for the US-based Dane.
I assume he means that we'd just be buying him out of his contract.
I'm not suggesting that a novice woman should manage Charlton, but an experienced female coach shouldn't be discounted.
As for men and women playing together (no innuendo) that is not going to happen.
Whoever we get I just hope that they are bloody successful and we secure promotion.
Emma Hayes may well be the best candidate and someone somewhere will take a punt on her sooner rather than later - she's clearly very good at her job, but personally I think we are enough of a basket case club without the inevitable circus that will follow whichever professional men's team do appoint her. That and I don't particularly like her when I've heard her as a pundit etc. I'd rather appoint one of the other 4 mentioned and go quietly about our business assembling a team of free transfers to storm the league
His reputation and name is surely at that level where he gets a Championship job right out the gate (similar to Rooney, Lampard etc).
I’d be shocked if he didn’t follow the same sort of pattern with his next appointment, albeit less harsh deliverables.
I fear another summer spent miles off the pace.
Agree.
I might need a recount but Rob Edwards will be the 17th manager in 10 years and that doesn't include Hayden Mullins twice as caretaker.
Pozzo has had more managers than Katie Price has had lovers ? That last sentence may be incorrect.
That being the case, there's no way Beale would be leaving before the season ends on 22nd May, and possibly not leaving before the end of the month.
sounds like Stevie G isn’t the messiah after all
or Villa are just shit