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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Personally, I am not sure Taylor is the best choice, has done a cracking job at Exeter, but I think Charlton might be a job too big for him..
My personal choice would be Michael Beale, no experience of managing yet, but has expeirence of working within big clubs and high expectations, I feel he has learned the trade, understanding of different styles and approaches from different managers and coaches.
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Craig David now in to 10/1.Cafc43v3r said:
He would start on Monday, most of the players would be injured by Tuesday, the rest by Wednesday.catfordmorry said:Marcelo Bielsa?19 -
He slept at the training ground when he was at Leeds. Chuck him in the portacabins.catfordmorry said:Marcelo Bielsa
We’ve got a fabulous academy for him to work with.
His teams play attacking football.
The Valley would be full.
The club teams he has managed have always been a challenge for him, which he obviously thrives on.
He would fully understand and buy into the Addicks story.
Pretty much the whole football world loves him.
Has the club still got that lovely apartment in Docklands?
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I think Michael Beale would be the most exciting appointment and would be a clear sign of intent from TS.DubaiCAFC said:Personally, I am not sure Taylor is the best choice, has done a cracking job at Exeter, but I think Charlton might be a job too big for him..
My personal choice would be Michael Beale, no experience of managing yet, but has expeirence of working within big clubs and high expectations, I feel he has learned the trade, understanding of different styles and approaches from different managers and coaches.
But that shouldn’t mean Taylor would be a bad appointment. I think the players we have currently at the club would definitely benefit from his style of management.19 -
DubaiCAFC said:Personally, I am not sure Taylor is the best choice, has done a cracking job at Exeter, but I think Charlton might be a job too big for him..
My personal choice would be Michael Beale, no experience of managing yet, but has expeirence of working within big clubs and high expectations, I feel he has learned the trade, understanding of different styles and approaches from different managers and coaches.
Who ever gets the gig is under pressure to deliver a top 6 position.
At least 50% of the fan/critic base will probably be negative because you are more likely to be correct whether it's Taylor or anyone else.
That why Golfie has a good record of being correct !
I try not to give Sandgaard stick but his comments last time around about Michael Beale surely meant there was no chance of the assistant coach at Villa coming to Cafc now.
In my experience of football and life if you say negative comments which aren't constructive comments it will always linger and comeback to bite you. Using Michael as a yardstick sounded like a faux pas to me.
I would've really praised Michael Beale after he applied last time but just said the time wasn't right but sure it will be for Michael soon; or not mention his name as it could've affected his job at Rangers or the Villa job.
Probably the latter as I thought the guys who don't get the job would want it in the public domain if still employed.
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Michael Beale after he ends the Summer transfer window with a handful of QPR rejects, a couple of acne-ridden loanees and a big money signing recovering from two ACLs and a bout of limes disease.49 -
But it floods the thread for no real reason. Surely just easier to set up a new discussion and go from there?soapboxsam said:king addick said:Why are managers in the premiership being spoke about on a thread created to speak about the next potential Charlton boss?
Because there wouldn't be any posts as Sandgaard is interviewing and all the candidates have been mentioned with opinions about them: pro and cons.
I know more about Mark Warburton and Michael Beale than I do about guys I have known for decades.
Please add new information on anyone that hasn't been mentioned ?0 -
Respect that view but don't want Beale personally. He comes across as an exceptional football coach but being a manager is a different skillset. He could easily be a Les Reed in waiting.DubaiCAFC said:Personally, I am not sure Taylor is the best choice, has done a cracking job at Exeter, but I think Charlton might be a job too big for him..
My personal choice would be Michael Beale, no experience of managing yet, but has expeirence of working within big clubs and high expectations, I feel he has learned the trade, understanding of different styles and approaches from different managers and coaches.1 -
"After a long and rigorous selection process, it was clear to me that Martin was the best candidate for the club. We interviewed some young and experienced candidates, but Martin's enthusiasm and knowledge of football could not be matched".ken_shabby said:8 -
Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.8
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It's just fortunate that the kicking is not as hard as how he can kick a football.Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.2 -
Total dickhead by all accounts.Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.5 -
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Dear diary,
I keep on coming here every day with a prayer in my heart for the resurrection of our new manager - saviour - Shepherd !!! One to dog us round and round league one's meadows.
Alas, baaaa, maybe there won't be one. Maybe there's never was one, maybe we're not sheep at all, maybe just a horse with no name? Or a core with no flame, door with no aim, whores with no game..?0 -
And he's got a really hard shotwmcf123 said:
"After a long and rigorous selection process, it was clear to me that Martin was the best candidate for the club. We interviewed some young and experienced candidates, but Martin's enthusiasm and knowledge of football could not be matched".ken_shabby said:0 -
Which accounts are those?Redvaliant said:
Total dickhead by all accounts.Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
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People who have to put up with him.Garrymanilow said:
Which accounts are those?Redvaliant said:
Total dickhead by all accounts.Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.0 -
**INSERT POPCORN GIF HERE**Redvaliant said:
People who have to put up with him.Garrymanilow said:
Which accounts are those?Redvaliant said:
Total dickhead by all accounts.Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.0 -
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.47 -
That’s not what @EmmaSalesEastStand said…RyanSalesWestStand said:
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.12 -
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Wycombe mainly play ‘shithouse’ football. Can’t stand ‘em.ElfsborgAddick said:
Gareth Ainsworth would be nice, although I imagine he is on a big contract at Wycombe.Covered End said:
Or we are still interviewing candidates,Scoham said:
Or some candidates have been away for a short break after the season ended, like Jackson did.jimmymelrose said:Covered End said:
Most fans think it's B.jimmymelrose said:
I've come in for criticism here so I shall explain my reasoning:paulie8290 said:
I'm curious as to why you think this.jimmymelrose said:It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.
The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.
I literally just said this to someone.
When Roland employed Luzon/Riga i cant remember which its blurred that time, everyone was moaning saying it was to quick him and KM didnt do a good enough search.
So why now TS is looking properly is it apparently to long.
Surely its better he gets the correct appointment even if it takes 7-14 days from the day JJ was sacked?
Are you just looking for a reason to moan?
A stick to beat TS with?
We are not the only club without a manager atm
Lincoln haven't had a manager for 10 days
Fleetwood magical 7 day(according to you) is up tomorrow.
Does that mean they have been poorly managed or do they not count, as Ts doesn't own them
It had been clear for several months that we weren't going either up or down a division.
For those last few months we were generally in 13th- 17th place, weren't we? Therefore TS either thought:
A. This is bad but I trust that JJ can sort it out for next season.
B. This is bad and I need to change manager.
If it were B then he should have replaced him with a month or more to go so that the new manager can make his assessments.
If it were A then he appears to have changed his mind at the last minute, probably due to the Ipswich result. My opinion is that this is what's happened. That's why I call it a petulant decision. It can't be because of our final position as we finished the season in almost the highest position we'd reached all season.
I may be wrong. What I know for sure was that I thought TS was great when he bought the club and I'm still thankful for that. What I now think is that he doesn't have a clue how to run a football club, and that we'll finish lower next season and then the next and so on until he changes his ways.
The reason being Washington was as good as told this a few weeks before the Ipswich game.
The most likely reason JJ wasn't sacked sooner, was because TS would have had to pay out less (if any) compensation by waiting until the season ended and JJ had "failed" the agreed contract.
Fair enough but it's now two weeks since he sacked Jackson and he still hasn't appointed a new manager. If it's B then he should have appointed someone by now. The only good reason why not would be if it's a manager of a play-off team.
Perhaps 'most fans' are wrong and it's A.
Or some are coaches at Prem clubs so their season hasn’t ended
Or we were negotiating but someone turned it down (more of a bad reason but could be the case)
etc
Or we are still negotiating terms,
Or numerous other possible reasons.
But guaranteed it isn't true, that the only possible reason we haven't appointed a manager, is because they are a manager of a play off team. It's one of many possibilities.7 -
I play football with a physio of a league one club, was not complimentary at all about Ainsworth as a person.JamesSeed said:
Wycombe mainly play ‘shithouse’ football. Can’t stand ‘em.ElfsborgAddick said:
Gareth Ainsworth would be nice, although I imagine he is on a big contract at Wycombe.Covered End said:
Or we are still interviewing candidates,Scoham said:
Or some candidates have been away for a short break after the season ended, like Jackson did.jimmymelrose said:Covered End said:
Most fans think it's B.jimmymelrose said:
I've come in for criticism here so I shall explain my reasoning:paulie8290 said:
I'm curious as to why you think this.jimmymelrose said:It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.
The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.
I literally just said this to someone.
When Roland employed Luzon/Riga i cant remember which its blurred that time, everyone was moaning saying it was to quick him and KM didnt do a good enough search.
So why now TS is looking properly is it apparently to long.
Surely its better he gets the correct appointment even if it takes 7-14 days from the day JJ was sacked?
Are you just looking for a reason to moan?
A stick to beat TS with?
We are not the only club without a manager atm
Lincoln haven't had a manager for 10 days
Fleetwood magical 7 day(according to you) is up tomorrow.
Does that mean they have been poorly managed or do they not count, as Ts doesn't own them
It had been clear for several months that we weren't going either up or down a division.
For those last few months we were generally in 13th- 17th place, weren't we? Therefore TS either thought:
A. This is bad but I trust that JJ can sort it out for next season.
B. This is bad and I need to change manager.
If it were B then he should have replaced him with a month or more to go so that the new manager can make his assessments.
If it were A then he appears to have changed his mind at the last minute, probably due to the Ipswich result. My opinion is that this is what's happened. That's why I call it a petulant decision. It can't be because of our final position as we finished the season in almost the highest position we'd reached all season.
I may be wrong. What I know for sure was that I thought TS was great when he bought the club and I'm still thankful for that. What I now think is that he doesn't have a clue how to run a football club, and that we'll finish lower next season and then the next and so on until he changes his ways.
The reason being Washington was as good as told this a few weeks before the Ipswich game.
The most likely reason JJ wasn't sacked sooner, was because TS would have had to pay out less (if any) compensation by waiting until the season ended and JJ had "failed" the agreed contract.
Fair enough but it's now two weeks since he sacked Jackson and he still hasn't appointed a new manager. If it's B then he should have appointed someone by now. The only good reason why not would be if it's a manager of a play-off team.
Perhaps 'most fans' are wrong and it's A.
Or some are coaches at Prem clubs so their season hasn’t ended
Or we were negotiating but someone turned it down (more of a bad reason but could be the case)
etc
Or we are still negotiating terms,
Or numerous other possible reasons.
But guaranteed it isn't true, that the only possible reason we haven't appointed a manager, is because they are a manager of a play off team. It's one of many possibilities.4 -
Redvaliant said:
People who have to put up with him.Garrymanilow said:
Which accounts are those?Redvaliant said:
Total dickhead by all accounts.Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
You might want one of these
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Why? Believe me or don't, I know what I've been told and I'm not saying anymore.CL_Phantom said:Redvaliant said:
People who have to put up with him.Garrymanilow said:
Which accounts are those?Redvaliant said:
Total dickhead by all accounts.Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
You might want one of these9 -
That may all be true but that's not what his dad keeps saying. There is no one other than Thomas to blame for the accusation that Martin is in charge of recruitment because he keeps saying it.RyanSalesWestStand said:
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.0 -
You’re right, it’s my opinion that Thomas’s messaging isn’t helping the situation and is spiralling things out of control. If you look at Charlton twitter these days you’d think ESI owned us still 😂Cafc43v3r said:
They may all be true but that's not what his dad keeps saying. There is no one other than Thomas to blame for the accusation that Martin is in charge of recruitment because he keeps saying it.RyanSalesWestStand said:
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.5 -
The his dad should have explained his role better.RyanSalesWestStand said:
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.2 -
I agree. Just passing on what I know. I’m all for criticism of the ownership, but I know some of the criticism isn’t strictly fair.The Red Robin said:
The his dad should have explained his role better.RyanSalesWestStand said:
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.10 -
Nice to have some input from someone new.RyanSalesWestStand said:
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…Mendonca In Asdas said:Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.8 -
I have concluded the selection process is akin to the apprentice and candidates are being eliminated one by one as they fail tasks.
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