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I cant find the interview where Thomas spoke about the presentation Jason Euell did that he said he was so impressed with. He was on my original top 5 of who I thought it would be. Cawley has ruled one out and another won't get a work permit......ForeverAddickted said:Going to be Jason Euell at this rate isnt it.1 -
I had that thought today too. Feels like a last resort, but probably preferable to a lot of 'external' options too...
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Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.2
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We don’t know that for sure though do we. Bowyer was completely different to Robinson for exampleShootersHillGuru said:Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.
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They could spin some BS about the more they looked, the more they kept going back to Euell. Then they could contradict that with clauses in his contract to get rid if it isn't working in a timely fashion. But we wouldn't focus on those and then he either succeeds or fails but at least if it is the latter we still have a chance to try somebody else and still affect our season. And he could very well succeed. Why not?0
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Most managers would have a high percentage rate managing “ra sellik” or Rangers purely on the basis of serious competition.
Look at it like this, I dislike Lennon intensely, because he is a vile maggot, NOT because he is a former ***tic manager, for instance, I would take Brendan Rodgers in a heartbeat (ridiculous as that is)
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Exactly right. Euell will have his own ideas.cafcfan1990 said:
We don’t know that for sure though do we. Bowyer was completely different to Robinson for exampleShootersHillGuru said:Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.0 -
YesKBslittlesis said:Is it just the Celtic thing that put people off Lennon?
Genuinely interested in the answer.0 -
If Euell was the most impressive candidate then what’s he problem. If we’re honest, he’s more experienced and qualified than Jacko and should probably have been given the chance ahead of Jackson last time round. He’s also an England U20 coach.Having said all that, I don’t think it will be him as I doubt TS can be bothered with the backlash of some thinking it’s no different.1
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For what it's worth I think jason Euell has had a more independent trajectory than some might think.
Euell was U23 when Robinson was here, and he was left in situ when Jacko and Bowyer was around. Then Bowyer worked with Jacko, then Adkins worked with Jacko, then Jacko worked with Euell, but was still minded to bring in Skivington.
In the interim Euell has had some side hustles in relation to England I believe.
I have no idea if Jason Euell would work out, but I believe he sees himself as his own man, he did well with the U23's so that might indicate something.2 - Sponsored links:
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I’m 90% sure the interview is from the Player Of The Year Dinner where he’s talking about Jason Pearce, not Jason Euell.Cafc43v3r said:
I cant find the interview where Thomas spoke about the presentation Jason Euell did that he said he was so impressed with. He was on my original top 5 of who I thought it would be. Cawley has ruled one out and another won't get a work permit......ForeverAddickted said:Going to be Jason Euell at this rate isnt it.I think Pearce presented to him in relation to getting a coaching role at the club. Happy to be proven wrong as I haven’t listened to it since.6 -
We don’t indeed, but if we were to employ someone for example like a Matt Taylor we are more likely to have more of an idea about how they will perform - and if at least if they can be successful - in the actual manager role. Where as for me, currently Euell has just been part of the same coaching set up that has been producing terrible football for a long time now.cafcfan1990 said:
We don’t know that for sure though do we. Bowyer was completely different to Robinson for exampleShootersHillGuru said:Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.
Of course there are not guarantees either way, and l am not saying that Euell may not be an exceptional manager. But I would rather whoever we did employ had a body of work, working in the actual role then taking a punt on someone who has not*.In short I don’t feel like we can take a punt on someone who has not had proven success in the role at the current juncture of where we are.*That being said I would of course very much welcome Beale, so what do I know.0 -
Sorry I completely disagree, no one on here has a clue who has been interviewed, or is still, maybe, to be interviewed, if you stick a tenner on just one of the candidates the odds will shorten dramatically! Even the bookies are struggling to have a 'cast iron favourite' as odds keep changing with no one as a complete stand out 'hot' name.Cafc43v3r said:
It's possible but I am sure if that was the case it would have leaked by now. Too many people would know.Redmidland said:I don't wish to go against many peoples opinions on here, but could it be, I know this maybe a little whimsical, that we have selected our next manager already and they in turn have handed a player shopping list to TS, but we haven't made an announcement yet due to them being at a club that's still playing?
Just a thought.
TS and Co seem to be doing things under the radar....not a bad thing in my opinion.
Afterall look at the arguments on here about who it should/shouldn't be. Only time will tell if I might be right, but it's not a bad theory.2 -
I read it somewhere it could have been a transcript of that interview and mistranscribed.ElliotCAFC said:
I’m 90% sure the interview is from the Player Of The Year Dinner where he’s talking about Jason Pearce, not Jason Euell.Cafc43v3r said:
I cant find the interview where Thomas spoke about the presentation Jason Euell did that he said he was so impressed with. He was on my original top 5 of who I thought it would be. Cawley has ruled one out and another won't get a work permit......ForeverAddickted said:Going to be Jason Euell at this rate isnt it.I think Pearce presented to him in relation to getting a coaching role at the club. Happy to be proven wrong as I haven’t listened to it since.0 -
That was my recollectionElliotCAFC said:
I’m 90% sure the interview is from the Player Of The Year Dinner where he’s talking about Jason Pearce, not Jason Euell.Cafc43v3r said:
I cant find the interview where Thomas spoke about the presentation Jason Euell did that he said he was so impressed with. He was on my original top 5 of who I thought it would be. Cawley has ruled one out and another won't get a work permit......ForeverAddickted said:Going to be Jason Euell at this rate isnt it.I think Pearce presented to him in relation to getting a coaching role at the club. Happy to be proven wrong as I haven’t listened to it since.0 -
Has that ever happened? I think there’s way too many loose lips in football nowadays for a manager to go behind his own clubs back and neither party leak it.Redmidland said:
Sorry I completely disagree, no one on here has a clue who has been interviewed, or is still, maybe, to be interviewed, if you stick a tenner on just one of the candidates the odds will shorten dramatically! Even the bookies are struggling to have a 'cast iron favourite' as odds keep changing with no one as a complete stand out 'hot' name.Cafc43v3r said:
It's possible but I am sure if that was the case it would have leaked by now. Too many people would know.Redmidland said:I don't wish to go against many peoples opinions on here, but could it be, I know this maybe a little whimsical, that we have selected our next manager already and they in turn have handed a player shopping list to TS, but we haven't made an announcement yet due to them being at a club that's still playing?
Just a thought.
TS and Co seem to be doing things under the radar....not a bad thing in my opinion.
Afterall look at the arguments on here about who it should/shouldn't be. Only time will tell if I might be right, but it's not a bad theory.If it was at a club still playing, it would have to be League Two level. I can’t see us being interested in poaching a manager from Swindon, Port Vale or Mansfield.0 -
I know we’re restless and hungover from last season but is it really taking that long when you consider Barnsley, Blackburn, Burnley, Crawley, Forest Green, Hartlepool, QPR and Salford are all in the same position? And that’s not including others whose owners haven’t sacked them yet! Just a thought. As long as it’s done before the first day of training for me, and as long as it’s right.0
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Could be Prem....Beale?ElliotCAFC said:
Has that ever happened? I think there’s way too many loose lips in football nowadays for a manager to go behind his own clubs back and neither party leak it.Redmidland said:
Sorry I completely disagree, no one on here has a clue who has been interviewed, or is still, maybe, to be interviewed, if you stick a tenner on just one of the candidates the odds will shorten dramatically! Even the bookies are struggling to have a 'cast iron favourite' as odds keep changing with no one as a complete stand out 'hot' name.Cafc43v3r said:
It's possible but I am sure if that was the case it would have leaked by now. Too many people would know.Redmidland said:I don't wish to go against many peoples opinions on here, but could it be, I know this maybe a little whimsical, that we have selected our next manager already and they in turn have handed a player shopping list to TS, but we haven't made an announcement yet due to them being at a club that's still playing?
Just a thought.
TS and Co seem to be doing things under the radar....not a bad thing in my opinion.
Afterall look at the arguments on here about who it should/shouldn't be. Only time will tell if I might be right, but it's not a bad theory.If it was at a club still playing, it would have to be League Two level. I can’t see us being interested in poaching a manager from Swindon, Port Vale or Mansfield.0 -
If they were already employed they would know, half a dozen people at Charlton would know, half a dozen people at their club would know. Someone would probably be tapped up for the job they currently had so potentially that's half a dozen more.Redmidland said:
Sorry I completely disagree, no one on here has a clue who has been interviewed, or is still, maybe, to be interviewed, if you stick a tenner on just one of the candidates the odds will shorten dramatically! Even the bookies are struggling to have a 'cast iron favourite' as odds keep changing with no one as a complete stand out 'hot' name.Cafc43v3r said:
It's possible but I am sure if that was the case it would have leaked by now. Too many people would know.Redmidland said:I don't wish to go against many peoples opinions on here, but could it be, I know this maybe a little whimsical, that we have selected our next manager already and they in turn have handed a player shopping list to TS, but we haven't made an announcement yet due to them being at a club that's still playing?
Just a thought.
TS and Co seem to be doing things under the radar....not a bad thing in my opinion.
Afterall look at the arguments on here about who it should/shouldn't be. Only time will tell if I might be right, but it's not a bad theory.
Someone potentially having an interview, probably by zoom, could potentially be a handful of people if that.
That's before you factor in anyone approached on the shopping list.0 -
As I said on the "name the day" thread.Redmidland said:I don't wish to go against many peoples opinions on here, but could it be, I know this maybe a little whimsical, that we have selected our next manager already and they in turn have handed a player shopping list to TS, but we haven't made an announcement yet due to them being at a club that's still playing?
Just a thought.
Its Klopp.2 - Sponsored links:
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PatheticGribbo said:
YesKBslittlesis said:Is it just the Celtic thing that put people off Lennon?
Genuinely interested in the answer.15 -
I’m inclined to agree with everything you’ve said. The main issue is the “proven success” part. Genuinely cannot think of anyone recently promoted from league 1 who is both suitable and realisticFishCostaFortune said:
We don’t indeed, but if we were to employ someone for example like a Matt Taylor we are more likely to have more of an idea about how they will perform - and if at least if they can be successful - in the actual manager role. Where as for me, currently Euell has just been part of the same coaching set up that has been producing terrible football for a long time now.cafcfan1990 said:
We don’t know that for sure though do we. Bowyer was completely different to Robinson for exampleShootersHillGuru said:Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.
Of course there are not guarantees either way, and l am not saying that Euell may not be an exceptional manager. But I would rather whoever we did employ had a body of work, working in the actual role then taking a punt on someone who has not*.In short I don’t feel like we can take a punt on someone who has not had proven success in the role at the current juncture of where we are.*That being said I would of course very much welcome Beale, so what do I know.0 -
Apart from Paul Warne how many current managers have more than 1 league 1 promotion. I think if we had appointed Richardson from Wigan when we got Adkins there would have been up roar.cafcfan1990 said:
I’m inclined to agree with everything you’ve said. The main issue is the “proven success” part. Genuinely cannot think of anyone recently promoted from league 1 who is both suitable and realisticFishCostaFortune said:
We don’t indeed, but if we were to employ someone for example like a Matt Taylor we are more likely to have more of an idea about how they will perform - and if at least if they can be successful - in the actual manager role. Where as for me, currently Euell has just been part of the same coaching set up that has been producing terrible football for a long time now.cafcfan1990 said:
We don’t know that for sure though do we. Bowyer was completely different to Robinson for exampleShootersHillGuru said:Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.
Of course there are not guarantees either way, and l am not saying that Euell may not be an exceptional manager. But I would rather whoever we did employ had a body of work, working in the actual role then taking a punt on someone who has not*.In short I don’t feel like we can take a punt on someone who has not had proven success in the role at the current juncture of where we are.*That being said I would of course very much welcome Beale, so what do I know.
Almost everyone that gets promoted then ends up, ultimately, failing in the championship.
If Powell did what he did here at say Huddersfield and his name came up now people would say but yeah he got sacked in the championship because he couldn't cut it.
Now we know that that isn't true. It's like Lennon and Ferguson failing in some jobs, without context it's meaningless.0 -
What about anyone from the Watford 900 over the last few years?0
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I wonder if he interviewed for the Wimbledon job ?The Red Robin said:If Euell was the most impressive candidate then what’s he problem. If we’re honest, he’s more experienced and qualified than Jacko and should probably have been given the chance ahead of Jackson last time round. He’s also an England U20 coach.Having said all that, I don’t think it will be him as I doubt TS can be bothered with the backlash of some thinking it’s no different.1 -
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-michael-beale-charlton-24002963
$tevie G MBE on Beale being link to us.11 -
Ferguson is probably the only one that stands out with league 1 promotions alongside Warne. Ainsworth could obviously join them over the weekend. In reality, Ferguson should probably be a solid candidateCafc43v3r said:
Apart from Paul Warne how many current managers have more than 1 league 1 promotion. I think if we had appointed Richardson from Wigan when we got Adkins there would have been up roar.cafcfan1990 said:
I’m inclined to agree with everything you’ve said. The main issue is the “proven success” part. Genuinely cannot think of anyone recently promoted from league 1 who is both suitable and realisticFishCostaFortune said:
We don’t indeed, but if we were to employ someone for example like a Matt Taylor we are more likely to have more of an idea about how they will perform - and if at least if they can be successful - in the actual manager role. Where as for me, currently Euell has just been part of the same coaching set up that has been producing terrible football for a long time now.cafcfan1990 said:
We don’t know that for sure though do we. Bowyer was completely different to Robinson for exampleShootersHillGuru said:Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.
Of course there are not guarantees either way, and l am not saying that Euell may not be an exceptional manager. But I would rather whoever we did employ had a body of work, working in the actual role then taking a punt on someone who has not*.In short I don’t feel like we can take a punt on someone who has not had proven success in the role at the current juncture of where we are.*That being said I would of course very much welcome Beale, so what do I know.
Almost everyone that gets promoted then ends up, ultimately, failing in the championship.
If Powell did what he did here at say Huddersfield and his name came up now people would say but yeah he got sacked in the championship because he couldn't cut it.
Now we know that that isn't true. It's like Lennon and Ferguson failing in some jobs, without context it's meaningless.1 -
Im not necessarily thinking success to be judged as promotion from league 1. It could be to have come up from league 2 and done well in on league 1 - or even managed to get a ‘weaker’ team close to or in the play offs.cafcfan1990 said:
I’m inclined to agree with everything you’ve said. The main issue is the “proven success” part. Genuinely cannot think of anyone recently promoted from league 1 who is both suitable and realisticFishCostaFortune said:
We don’t indeed, but if we were to employ someone for example like a Matt Taylor we are more likely to have more of an idea about how they will perform - and if at least if they can be successful - in the actual manager role. Where as for me, currently Euell has just been part of the same coaching set up that has been producing terrible football for a long time now.cafcfan1990 said:
We don’t know that for sure though do we. Bowyer was completely different to Robinson for exampleShootersHillGuru said:Nothing against Jason but I hope it’s not him. We need a new approach and I’m sorry but Jason won’t give us that.
Of course there are not guarantees either way, and l am not saying that Euell may not be an exceptional manager. But I would rather whoever we did employ had a body of work, working in the actual role then taking a punt on someone who has not*.In short I don’t feel like we can take a punt on someone who has not had proven success in the role at the current juncture of where we are.*That being said I would of course very much welcome Beale, so what do I know.0 -
Ironically Euell might not be a bad option given the setup here now
He did very well with the U23s which was very much a role where he didnt get much of a say on Recruitment
At least I'd presume not..4 -
Gerrard doesn’t exactly dismiss the thought of Beale leaving. Interesting.6
