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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    Swisdom said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Swisdom said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    cfgs said:
    Swisdom said:
    We may still be interviewing to give us alternatives / plan B in case plan A doesn’t accept or we just want to be thorough.  There were a LOT of applicants 

    a new manager isn’t going to have made much impact with the previous season still ongoing so we’ve really not missed out on much I wouldn’t think.  The players are all away, the recruitment team are beavering away on an assortment of targets and things will get into action in a couple of weeks - presumably with a new manager in place by then.

    until then I’m not alarmed.  If we are being thorough I am not alarmed.  If we have plenty of interest I am not alarmed

    if lots of people are rejecting us, I’m alarmed but don’t believe this to be the case.


    Everyone keep calm and listen to the voice of swisdom.
    The same voice who told us we should see how Paul Elliott gets on with running the club and later described him as a good egg?
    I think you may be mistaken.  I never met that Paul Elliott - I met the former central defender version (Richard Rufus’ mate)

    all I’m likely to have said is to give the guy a chance. As with everything now people make a snap decision / I’d always prefer to judge for myself rather than what I’m told I should feel about someone.
    I also said to the Roland haters to “be careful what they wished for” and along came Southall - whom I also never met

    the truth is there is a process ongoing, we haven’t missed out on anything and we need to wait and see how it ends.  On one hand people are pressuring the club to “get it right” and then in the next breath to “fucking get on with it”….I know which I would rather do


    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/88469/cafc-bonkers-shenanigans-confidential-stuff-sra-investigation-clears-farnell-p1578/p1118
    Well done.

    are you bored or something
    Not bored, took 5 minutes on my commute to work. 
  • The other thing about interviews is they are generally instigated by an application. It is unusual for somebody to apply then reject.
    Not sure that is necessarily the case, Muttley. If it is a case of salary and terms to be negotiated and you are offered much less than you think you are worth, or what you hear in the interview doesn't appeal, then you may well reject. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited May 2022
    seth plum said:
    Never ask for feedback when you fail to land a job after any kind of interview or interview process.
    Tell me about it.  A few years ago applied for a job and was told "we were really excited about your interview and it is just bad luck that someone else pipped you to it - we would have definitely loved to have you here".  It obvs didn't work out as saw the job advertised again 6 months later.  I emailed them and said I would like to reapply but they declined...never been so humiliated in my life.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,143
    DA9 said:
    The other thing about interviews is they are generally instigated by an application. It is unusual for somebody to apply then reject.
    Happens more than you think, I’ve rejected job offers that I’ve applied for, didn’t feel right when meeting the people face to face, you sometimes get a feeling 
    I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is unusual.
    Mate, it’s not unusual. Take it from me, I’m a headhunter. So every time it happened I was further away from earning a fee. Now it happens more often where the human element is crucial to performance. A pro football club is definitely one of that type.
  • seth plum said:
    I want to send best wishes to all candidates facing exams during this period of time, be they GCSE’s, A-levels, University finals and whatever. Also very best wishes to friends and families and especially teachers doing what they can to be supportive.
    It is a drag this phenomena takes place during hay fever season, and the format of examinations is questionable anyway, but most of all the amount of missed school and disruption that people have faced due to Covid makes these current exams pretty tough.

    Just handed in my dissertation. ‘An analysis of how speculation and conjecture become facts worth fighting over within the Charlton Life paradigm.’
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    seth plum said:
    I want to send best wishes to all candidates facing exams during this period of time, be they GCSE’s, A-levels, University finals and whatever. Also very best wishes to friends and families and especially teachers doing what they can to be supportive.
    It is a drag this phenomena takes place during hay fever season, and the format of examinations is questionable anyway, but most of all the amount of missed school and disruption that people have faced due to Covid makes these current exams pretty tough.

    Just handed in my dissertation. ‘An analysis of how speculation and conjecture become facts worth fighting over within the Charlton Life paradigm.’
    Now that is impressive, presumably under the supervision of the University of Bologna?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited May 2022
    Have we considered appointing a black box as manager?

    Would be cheap, consistent, anonymous and TS knows how to control it.

    Ticks all the boxes. 

     

    My problem is Mr Black Box knows all the stats but doesn't seem to realise who's partner has left, and the *player won't be able to see his daughter, he may be a loner, who doesn't mix well despite his stats saying he is at the top level with assists and goals for a midfielder in the division Cafc find their in; horse racing vernacular, a course and distance winner. 

    Mr Black Box has no heart and no understanding of the human condition and the mood swings and the different personalities and how they treat the two imposters: triumph and disaster.  Not sure if that data is even allowed to be entered ?

    " This is a fictional player just used for an example and any familiarity with any player is a coincidence.
  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224
    Well Melbourne Victory lost for the first time after a club record run of 13 matches undefeated Beaten by new boys Western United managed by John Alloisi .So a prudent TS could pick up a manager of the future in Tony Popovich.now Melbourne Victory has come to an unexpected end. Mebe even alloisi The final next W E will be between Melbourne City (of the City group) and Western united who have reached the final in their 3rd year in the A League with a tenth of the budget that City have got. Two or  three youth players in this final that our scouts could watch
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    DA9 said:
    The other thing about interviews is they are generally instigated by an application. It is unusual for somebody to apply then reject.
    Happens more than you think, I’ve rejected job offers that I’ve applied for, didn’t feel right when meeting the people face to face, you sometimes get a feeling 
    I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is unusual.
    Mate, it’s not unusual. Take it from me, I’m a headhunter. So every time it happened I was further away from earning a fee. Now it happens more often where the human element is crucial to performance. A pro football club is definitely one of that type.
    Maybe it is just me thinking that side of the club is useless. Maybe it is well run and not obvious.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    I wonder how many football league clubs are without a manager like us at the moment?
    Blackburn and QPR spring to mind - Burnley too if the bloke who replaced Dyche was only installed as a caretaker manager
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  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    I'd be surprised if we don't have a manager in place by the end of this week.  If it doesn't happen this week, I'd start to feel slightly concerned
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Answering the original question:- I reckon if Jacko was gonna be sacked for not making 8th place, he was sacked weeks too late and the absence of succession planning is lunacy.  Whoever we end up with, it will be unjustifiably later than it should have been, and if the next incumbent accepts Thomas and Martin holding sway on personnel then said incumbent will not be the right man for the job and we'll see a minimum of two others by this time next year.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    What's a Rangers forum got to do with anything?!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    mendonca said:
    What's a Rangers forum got to do with anything?!
    Because this time last year Beale worked for Rangers?
  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,553
    edited May 2022
    DA9 said:
    Just read on a Rangers forum, someone says he has been told that if Beale is offered our job, Villa are expecting him to take it, won’t name his source 
    It wasn't @BalmoralBoy was it?
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    mendonca said:
    What's a Rangers forum got to do with anything?!
    They have a thread about him as their ex coach, highly rated by their support and most basically wishing he would come back, he built up quite a rapport with the fanbase 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    mendonca said:
    What's a Rangers forum got to do with anything?!
    A lot judging by the meltdowns over the Lennon link..
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,672
    DA9 said:
    Just read on a Rangers forum, someone says he has been told that if Beale is offered our job, Villa are expecting him to take it, won’t name his source 
    It wasn't #BalmoralBoy was it?
    Ronnie McKinnon
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mendonca said:
    What's a Rangers forum got to do with anything?!
    Because this time last year Beale worked for Rangers?
    I thought I read Villa were expecting him to stay ? 
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mendonca said:
    What's a Rangers forum got to do with anything?!
    Because this time last year Beale worked for Rangers?
    I thought I read Villa were expecting him to stay ? 
    That was in The Telegraph or similar. This came from a Rangers forum. A forum has got to be more accurate, right? Right??
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    I'd be surprised if we don't have a manager in place by the end of this week.  If it doesn't happen this week, I'd start to feel slightly concerned
    I'd be astonished if we had a manager  in place by the end of this week. 

    Also, I really can't see Beale wanting to come here. He must have better options. He's in a better option right now. Unless he's got a house he can't rent out in New Eltham.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    It's a difficult one for Beale. On the one hand he might well want to be a manager in his own right but, on the other, he is respected as a coach and part of the Gerrard team that might one day be managing Liverpool. He's probably on very good money too and given the average longevity of a manager, the chances are that he would be sacked by us a long time before he and Gerrard part company with each other and/or with Villa. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    DA9 said:
    The other thing about interviews is they are generally instigated by an application. It is unusual for somebody to apply then reject.
    Happens more than you think, I’ve rejected job offers that I’ve applied for, didn’t feel right when meeting the people face to face, you sometimes get a feeling 
    I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is unusual.
    Mate, it’s not unusual. Take it from me, I’m a headhunter.
    I could tell you were really a Chelsea fan. 
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,754
    Vincenzo said:
    I'd be surprised if we don't have a manager in place by the end of this week.  If it doesn't happen this week, I'd start to feel slightly concerned
    I'd be astonished if we had a manager  in place by the end of this week. 

    Also, I really can't see Beale wanting to come here. He must have better options. He's in a better option right now. Unless he's got a house he can't rent out in New Eltham.
    Is he? If he’s no ambitions to be a manager then yes he is.

    But if he wants to be a number one, we’re a hugely attractive option to him. Big club with the possibility to make real progress. A club he already has a connection with in an area he knows well.

    It’s surely a dream first managerial role for him. Just hope TS has the vision to give it a go. I honestly think if he’s offered the role, he’d take it.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    I still think Ainsworth will be our next manager.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Vincenzo said:
    I'd be surprised if we don't have a manager in place by the end of this week.  If it doesn't happen this week, I'd start to feel slightly concerned
    I'd be astonished if we had a manager  in place by the end of this week. 

    Also, I really can't see Beale wanting to come here. He must have better options. He's in a better option right now. Unless he's got a house he can't rent out in New Eltham.
    Wow your full of the joys of spring!!🤣🙄
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    There you go, Stuart Pearce steps down as West Ham coach, it’s got to be him!!!!!😬🤣
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    paulfox said:
    There you go, Stuart Pearce steps down as West Ham coach, it’s got to be him!!!!!😬🤣
    Pearce going to help Gerrard at Villa to replace Beale maybe 🤔 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    It's a difficult one for Beale. On the one hand he might well want to be a manager in his own right but, on the other, he is respected as a coach and part of the Gerrard team that might one day be managing Liverpool. He's probably on very good money too and given the average longevity of a manager, the chances are that he would be sacked by us a long time before he and Gerrard part company with each other and/or with Villa. 
    Klopp isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and has just signed a new contract. You’d think Liverpool would aim higher than Gerrard as well.