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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • LouisMend said:
    Not sure if this is covered by what you say but on our POTY podcast he told me that he has set a target for “10% more intensity” in training

    “There are better facilities now at the training ground. We already have our medical and sports science team and I’m demanding next season that our training has to have a minimum of 10 per cent more intensity“
    Oh dear. I'll classify that as very borderline worrying. He may be right and our training under previous managers has been lacking, but I agree statements like that aren't encouraging and hopefully are based on some sort of data compared to other clubs rather than him just deciding to say something like that. How he is qualified to know this I concede is a bit of a red flag and let's hope it stops there...


  • When Airman ‘likes’ that post it scares me , we’ve got another nutbag , let’s hope he’s more useful than that goalkeeping coach  from Swindon’s nutsack .
    Yeah, I've called dibs on the Steve Mildenhall jokes thanks
  • Cawley sticking to his story 
  • Jac_52 said:
    Oh dear. I'll classify that as very borderline worrying. He may be right and our training under previous managers has been lacking, but I agree statements like that aren't encouraging and hopefully are based on some sort of data compared to other clubs rather than him just deciding to say something like that. How he is qualified to know this I concede is a bit of a red flag and let's hope it stops there...
    How did he get to a nice clean number like 10? And how is it measured?
  • If I was filthy rich and bought a football club, I suspect I'd have a say in how we played. Lets face it we all fancy ourselves a bit as football geniuses, it would be really hard when you're coughing up millions every year to keep quiet.

    Certainly at the manager recruitment stage, if I say liked attacking football or tiki-taka, I'd make sure that I appointed someone who played that way, and not someone who played a physical style and relied on set pieces.
    Yeah I totally agree with that.

    What I find worrying is commentating on training being 10% more intense. I know we don’t have any context into his thinking, but how has he judged that, what has he compared it to, and what does 10% more intense look like to him. 

    It’s totally fine for him to say I don’t want a team to play one dimensional football, and putting a manager in place he thinks can achieve what he wants but then after that he can’t really talk to coaching processes etc.
  • LouisMend said:
    Not sure if this is covered by what you say but on our POTY podcast he told me that he has set a target for “10% more intensity” in training

    “There are better facilities now at the training ground. We already have our medical and sports science team and I’m demanding next season that our training has to have a minimum of 10 per cent more intensity so we train at a minimum level we see in the Championship. It’s all around we’re improving.“
    I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that.  It's completely unmessurable unless he wants them to do 110 meter sprints instead of 100 meter ones.

    We still don't have a fitness and conditioning coach do we?  
  • Lee Bowyer is leaving Brum after falling out with the board and is coming back to us ..................  joke, stop panicking, I just wanted to give some contributors something else to get in a strop about, why we wait for the new manager to be appointed  :)
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  • edited May 2022
    I don’t think there is much doubt that Garner will soon be announced. Cawley doesn’t get too much wrong once he’s committed to tweeting something. I’d imagine the hold up is just some formalities at either CAFC, Swindon or with Ben Garner.
    Yeah, this is where I’m at with it.

    Which makes TS communications with @ButtleJR very strange indeed. I guess technically it could not be a lie as they could still be in the process of looking at candidates until it js all signed. 
  • I don’t think there is much doubt that Garner will soon be announced. Cawley doesn’t get too much wrong once he’s committed to tweeting something. I’d imagine the hold up is just some formalities at either CAFC, Swindon or with Ben Garner.
    Who resigns before ironing out the details of employment 
  • CafcSCP said:
    Who resigns before ironing out the details of employment 
    Especially when your resignation carries compensation issues either way.
  • edited May 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that.  It's completely unmessurable unless he wants them to do 110 meter sprints instead of 100 meter ones.

    We still don't have a fitness and conditioning coach do we?  


    Seriously? How long has that been the case? Can't get my head round why a professional football club would not have such an integral role in place.
  • wasn't it said not so long ago that bowyers training was too intensive?
  • wasn't it said not so long ago that bowyers training was too intensive?
    Because he didn't have a specialist coach he flogged them half to death because he was obsessed with how fit Leeds were.  He didn't take into account that 70 year old Bielsa had spent 40 years doing it and it took him 3 years.

    He thought he could do it in the now. 


  • Seriously? How long has that been the case? Can't get my head round why a professional football club would not have such an integral role in place.
    Here's what the OS says we have on the medical/fitness side:

     https://www.cafc.co.uk/team/coaching-staff

    Men's First Team Head Physiotherapist: Adam Coe

    Head of Physical Performance: Josh Hornby 

    Men's First-Team Sports Scientist: Ben Talbot

    Men's First-Team Assistant Therapist: Steve Jackson 

    Club Doctor: Toby Longwill

  • edited May 2022
    Redrobo said:
    Or that was not what TS said,
    Or Garner has agreed things with his agent but it has not yet been signed by us yet,
    Or there is an issue with the contract,
    Or TS needs to sign it,
    Or TS did not brief Cawley and he got information from elsewhere and is indeed premature,
    Or he has not left Swindon quite yet and hence it is not on their official site.

    No need to be so dramatic and calling people liars. All it does is feed the negativity and drags the club down. Patience is a virtue when negotiating.
    I'll ask again, have you seen the messages Thomas is sending people on LinkedIn?

    Because he is clearly saying they are still interviewing and that no one has been offered the job and he doesn't know where the story has come from.  If you had seen them you would know. But you don't and your spinning your rose tinted veiw on it. 

    But negatively........ 

    There is a difference between being negative for the sake of it and looking at facts, not speculation or interpretation. 
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  • edited May 2022
    Has it been confirmed that Ben Garner has resigned at Swindon ? I see their local paper saying he’s set to leave but that’s not quite the same although I expect it is.
  • edited May 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I know I am in a minority of 1 but really liked Karl Robinson.
    I always felt like he could, at times, be very bright and insightful and genuinely interesting to listen to when he talked about football. But he also was sometimes so steeped in his own ego and football cliches and norms that he got in his own way, much like his mentor Big Sam. 

    He also had a system and was able to help identify and attract good players (JDS, JFC, Magennis, Fosu) and at times we played good football under him. He just didn't seem to be able to make adjustments over the course of a game and a season. 
  • Scoham said:
    Here's what the OS says we have on the medical/fitness side:

     https://www.cafc.co.uk/team/coaching-staff

    Men's First Team Head Physiotherapist: Adam Coe

    Head of Physical Performance: Josh Hornby 

    Men's First-Team Sports Scientist: Ben Talbot

    Men's First-Team Assistant Therapist: Steve Jackson 

    Club Doctor: Toby Longwill

    Adam, Josh, Ben and Steve have all been with the club for years, all have progressed whether that’s because they were ready or were cheap options, I’m guessing the latter. Not knocking them, all good guys that love the club, we have gaps in that department and will continue to struggle with injury problems with no investment. 
  • Reports that we are
    close to signing BG have fizzled out…
  • edited May 2022
    Swisdom said:
    People working in the game have praised him and his approach.  People that have worked with him. 

    A load of internet warriors haven’t heard of him so decide he’s shit because Joey Barton says so.  

    I know who I would listen to
    Wait, Joey Barton said he's shite?

    I am 100% Garner in now. 
  • edited May 2022
    RedRobin said:
    Adam, Josh, Ben and Steve have all been with the club for years, all have progressed whether that’s because they were ready or were cheap options, I’m guessing the latter. Not knocking them, all good guys that love the club, we have gaps in that department and will continue to struggle with injury problems with no investment. 
     Assuming it's simply because they're cheap that they're still here and then saying you're not knocking them is disingenuous.

    My assumption would be that they have continued to develop their abilities and broaden their skill sets. Maybe they're qualified to the point they need to be for us right now.
  • edited May 2022
    My reckoning, given the slightly unclear picture, is that this story broke from the Swindon end, via contacts that Cawley may have in that area.

    Hasn’t it been rumoured before that since the regime change, Cawley’s club insider is no longer so reliable / left the club altogether?

    All leads me to thinking this is Swindon saying “if you’re gonna do it, do it… pay up the compo and stop messing about so we can bring in a replacement”.

    Far off or no? What do we think?
  • Going by TS seemingly denying Garner has been appointed and the Taylor interview posted earlier, my hunch is Taylor is still in the frame unless the interview is a few days old. 
  • I don’t think there is much doubt that Garner will soon be announced. Cawley doesn’t get too much wrong once he’s committed to tweeting something. I’d imagine the hold up is just some formalities at either CAFC, Swindon or with Ben Garner.

    If he's not our next manager lots of people will have moaned about nothing. That's normal on here anyway...
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