Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

CL_Phantom said:

For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum







And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:

https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/

Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.

Off you go then 

Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?

You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out. 

I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.

It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........

Which require years and years of study and experience.

Cafc43v3r said:

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

CL_Phantom said:

For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum







And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:

https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/

Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.

Off you go then 

Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?

You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out. 

I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.

It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........

Which require years and years of study and experience.

Don’t worry, he’s got this. Easy money.

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

mart77 said:

The ‘flushing out a leak’ theory is interesting that’s suggested in above posts. I think stuff will always leak from all clubs but I bet it still irritates TS who seems to like having the attention.

I guess we’ll find out next week when TS appears. 

TS next week...."The new manager is....*drumroll*.....

Martin Sandgaard!"

Fixed it for you

Cafc43v3r said:

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

CL_Phantom said:

For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum







And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:

https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/

Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.

Off you go then 

Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?

You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out. 

I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.

It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........

Which require years and years of study and experience.

And you really think not having those things will prevent someone being able to do the role as it is described there in reality? That somehow not having those things makes you magically incapable of performing what sounds like a very basic role with little that can't be picked up within a week or so of doing it?

Chris Powell has never had it so good.
He works for England and Spurs without the pressure of picking the team. Does he look like an idiot to give that up ?  It's a non story but fills some space while we contemplate reasons why the Charlton Managers job comes with so much baggage. 

With JJ gone who is the conduit between the players and the manager or the owner. For 12 years it was Jackson and even as manager he had their backs. Until he realised that the quality was ephermal and he struggled as he needed to make distance from mate to gaffer. TBF JJ did drop players that had backed him. 

Done deal ? Wouldn't be the first time that an experienced journalist had a false start with that claim. 

Addick_8 said:

Jac_52 said:

Addick_8 said:

Jac_52 said:

CL_Phantom said:

For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum







And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:

https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/

Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.

Just to add. Over the last 12 years, I've worked at 2x Premier league clubs and can confirm that this is just wrong. 

So you need a whole brain and/or maximal training? I fail to see how from the job descriptions personally.

I mean, if I was interviewing for this position and promised to use my "whole brain" to fulfil the role, I wouldn't hold my breath on a callback.
As I say, I have experience/worked with people in these roles first-hand for a number of years and can confirm that you were not correct in your original post. 
Not going to comment anymore as it's not fair on the thread. 

Why would you even think that is something anyone would say in a job interview and what point are you trying to illustrate?

It's not fair on the thread for you to not actually explain why it is you need to be a polymath to do basic data analysis for a football club.

Jac_52 said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

The Red Robin said:

Jac_52 said:

CL_Phantom said:

For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum







And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:

https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/

Good to confirm that absolutely anyone with half a brain could do these jobs with minimal training.

Off you go then 

Can I take it that this witless remark indicates that you think otherwise?

You’ve got at least half a brain so I’m sure you can work it out. 

I wanted to give you the opportunity to confirm that you think a job that lists Microsoft Office and barely much else of note as essential skills somehow requires years and years of study and expertise.

It also says you need a relevant degree and to be at least working towards your UEFA B licence.........

Which require years and years of study and experience.

And you really think not having those things will prevent someone being able to do the role as it is described there in reality? That somehow not having those things makes you magically incapable of performing what sounds like a very basic role with little that can't be picked up within a week or so of doing it?

What sounds like?  Talk me through a "day in the life" then?

No I have no idea either......

CL_Phantom said:

OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE

Forgot to flush at work? Spilt orange on the sofa?

AFKABartram said:

AFKABartram said:

Going well off topic here, the Sandgaard thread would be more apt.

let’s keep this to the potential new manager speculation please

Typical. Just as I was writing an extensive diatribe on a day in the life of a basic data analyst: A Polymath Story.

Anyway, so Chris Powell coming back sounds like a terrible idea.

This is all dragging on and getting a bit silly now. It seems highly likely that Ben Garner has got the job. If TS is playing silly buggers to delay the announcement until he is in the country next week then he risks making himself look foolish if after all these denials he then announces Garner. 

I must confess that I had not heard of Ben Garner, but looking at his credentials, I think he may be a good appointment. I think it is particularly important that he brings his own coaching team with him - we need a complete clear out and a completely new approach.

Sorry hadn’t finished reading all the posts before posting the above. 🤐 

swordfish said:

Back on thread, yesterdays 'non announcement' as it turned out, wasn't universally greeted with enthusiasm. Anyone would have thought Alex Rae was getting the nod!!! However, since then, some initial sceptics on here, myself included, have warmed to idea of Ben Garner being our head coach, in my case so much so that I'd be more worried if it wasn't him now as the longer the search goes on, the smaller the pool we're fishing in, or so it would seem. 

I wonder how many others have come round to this way of thinking, or is the court of public opinion here and elsewhere still firmly in the "no's have it" camp, assuming it was before.  What say you?

could do with a poll.