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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Didn't DubaiCAFC mention a possible candidate from a PL club? Wonder if someone like a freshly promoted with Forest Andy Reid could be a name to throw into the mix.....0
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Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.14 -
I hope not but Stuart Pearce left West Ham, Carrick is one that has been mentioned now and again and is no longer at Utd.MarcusH26 said:Didn't DubaiCAFC mention a possible candidate from a PL club? Wonder if someone like a freshly promoted with Forest Andy Reid could be a name to throw into the mix.....Brian Reimer at Brentford is Danish…previously manager and assistant manager at Copenhagen.3 -
The Red Robin said:
I hope not but Stuart Pearce left West Ham, Carrick is one that has been mentioned now and again and is no longer at Utd.MarcusH26 said:Didn't DubaiCAFC mention a possible candidate from a PL club? Wonder if someone like a freshly promoted with Forest Andy Reid could be a name to throw into the mix.....Brian Reimer at Brentford is Danish…previously manager and assistant manager at Copenhagen.
Pearce I'd really really hope he's not under consideration
Reimer actually could be a very interesting one given its known TS gets on with the Brentford hierarchy.4 -
Yep. Would fit the obsession with the Brentford model. I think it’ll be Garner though.MarcusH26 said:The Red Robin said:
I hope not but Stuart Pearce left West Ham, Carrick is one that has been mentioned now and again and is no longer at Utd.MarcusH26 said:Didn't DubaiCAFC mention a possible candidate from a PL club? Wonder if someone like a freshly promoted with Forest Andy Reid could be a name to throw into the mix.....Brian Reimer at Brentford is Danish…previously manager and assistant manager at Copenhagen.
Pearce I'd really really hope he's not under consideration
Reimer actually could be a very interesting one given its known TS gets on with the Brentford hierarchy.0 -
If negotiations with, allegedly, Garner come to nothing then I hope we don’t appoint an unproven coach like Carrick.
We could and should have stuck with Jacko if that’s the case.0 -
The Beale situation is a reflection of the wider decision making and running of the club IMO. You feel there's a decent chance we could have got him out of Rangers in the autumn. I think it's fairly clear that Sandgaard never really fancied Jackson and before the public clamour got too intense not to appoint him there was a decent chunk of time to change direction if the plan was ready and the machine could move fast enough. I assume Beale was identified as highly regarded early in that process and potentially before Adkins left (one would like to think we would have a rolling senior role shortlist as any good organisation should but the 4 week gap now suggests that might not be as complete as one would hope). Sandgaard made noises at the time regarding liking Beale but there were other more experienced candidates out there. Not much more than 6 months later, he seemed to be the number one pick or at least close to it but has come to be unachievable.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them here
Good people in business and sports spot these openings 6-12 months in advance and they take them. We seem to get it wrong on player recruitment time and time again (resulting in us buying after peak and/or buying at inflated value and/or losing targets to higher level or higher paying teams), that now extends to managers too. You cannot predict the future and you won't be able to win the gamble on potential every time but we are consistently behind what could reasonably be expected as good management.
To add - not only could we have got "the guy", we probably could have got him for less compensation and less salary than we would now (even if he were available to us and not heading to QPR). We either miss out or we over-pay. The fundamental decisions aren't good enough. Is it poor knowledge to formulate the right plan or is it an inability to make the right decision quickly (distraction/bottleneck to TS)? It needs solving whatever it is because if you don't make good, quick and future-orientated decisions at this level, you get nowhere.15 -
What part of the Brentford model is attractive to Thomas Sandgaard or our fan base ?
They have no academies but are in the Premier by buying good young players like Toney who's agent will no doubt be looking to get him a transfer soon.
We are the polar opposite as we sell our better younger players.
They play friendlies games with a reserve side.
We need the next manager to have more faith in getting our better youngsters into the first team squad and Sandgaard not selling them within half a dozen games.1 -
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.
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The frustration at the moment is that we are being reassured with non-updates rather than an update.
We might aswell illustrate unique ambition by being the first club to name a youth player without a pro contract as apprentice/ player/manager. Come on Jacob.2 - Sponsored links:
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The elephant in the room is probably that the "Brentford model" just doesn't work post Brexit. They were fuelled by significant investment and time spent in international scouting, resulting in bringing in talent for less than the competition and then being able to sell them for many times more or being able to retain them and grow them as they rose up the leagues. They wouldn't have got work permits for most of the players they signed now.soapboxsam said:What part of the Brentford model is attractive to Thomas Sandgaard or our fan base ?
They have no academies but are in the Premier by buying good young players like Toney who's agent will no doubt be looking to get him a transfer soon.
We are the polar opposite as we sell our better younger players.
They play friendlies games with a reserve side.
We need the next manager to have more faith in getting our better youngsters into the first team squad and Sandgaard not selling them within half a dozen games.
This is also why most of the serious talent in L1 and L2 is just getting sucked into the Championship without an intermediate stop at one of the bigger/higher spending L1 teams.4 -
Maybe, but I’m not applying the above to one candidate in isolation. It doesn’t take four weeks to run a process especially if the intention to sack Jackson predates the end of the season.Garrymanilow said:
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.The fact TS suggested it might take longer doesn’t make that necessary or ideal either.15 -
Yup the Brentford model doesn't work any more, at our level and the Peterborough model doesn't work either for the reasons in your last paragraph.ISawLeaburnScore said:
The elephant in the room is probably that the "Brentford model" just doesn't work post Brexit. They were fuelled by significant investment and time spent in international scouting, resulting in bringing in talent for less than the competition and then being able to sell them for many times more or being able to retain them and grow them as they rose up the leagues. They wouldn't have got work permits for most of the players they signed now.soapboxsam said:What part of the Brentford model is attractive to Thomas Sandgaard or our fan base ?
They have no academies but are in the Premier by buying good young players like Toney who's agent will no doubt be looking to get him a transfer soon.
We are the polar opposite as we sell our better younger players.
They play friendlies games with a reserve side.
We need the next manager to have more faith in getting our better youngsters into the first team squad and Sandgaard not selling them within half a dozen games.
This is also why most of the serious talent in L1 and L2 is just getting sucked into the Championship without an intermediate stop at one of the bigger/higher spending L1 teams.
I don't think people realise the effect of championship clubs not being able to buy foreign players has on league 1. We probably wouldn't have been able to sign Stephens, Wiggins, Morrison or Yann if it was like that then.10 -
I keep hearing Thomas Sandgaard didn't really fancy JJ as Manager, that could be true but he definitely didn't fancy Michael Beale or why did he use him as a Yard stick that we should go above after Adkins left and Johnnie was caretaker ?
That really isn't the way to attract a good young coach to your club from Glasgow Rangers and as Stevie G was getting ready to move to Villa and would always want his coaching guru to go with him.0 -
A £12500 per month flat, overlooking Maybank Paper yard?Garrymanilow said:
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.0 -
Pardew just walked past me on the phone, by London Bridge, overheard him saying “it was horrible, really nasty…”
It’s a sign.11 -
I know,but you try and stop my wife buying the sun.Covered End said:
It's not saturation coverage in decent newspapers, it's not even mentioned.thickandthin63 said:
You misunderstood my gripe,I dont give a toss who Andy Carroll goes to bed with,nor for that matter do 99.9 pc of the world.My moan was that it was deemed worthy of saturation cover and front pages of newspapers.Enjoyed your comments though just about summed up events at the moment.ricky_otto said:
You have missed a belter of a day.Fumbluff said:Been at a funeral today, what have I missed?
Did someone say Martin was actually Ro-lands son?
@RonnieMoore is a pilot, we are playing Swanley in a friendly,Mr largo has been advised to move his toilet seat closer to his front door, somebody is annoyed that Andy Carroll ended up in bed with 2 woman and AFKA has been roaming the streets of London singing God save the Queen.
I almost forgot amongst all the excitement , it seems the news of Ben Chorley leaving Swindon only filtered through to Finland 2 days after the event.1 -
Agree and good point on Peterborough. The options are really narrowed now to -Cafc43v3r said:
Yup the Brentford model doesn't work any more, at our level and the Peterborough model doesn't work either for the reasons in your last paragraph.ISawLeaburnScore said:
The elephant in the room is probably that the "Brentford model" just doesn't work post Brexit. They were fuelled by significant investment and time spent in international scouting, resulting in bringing in talent for less than the competition and then being able to sell them for many times more or being able to retain them and grow them as they rose up the leagues. They wouldn't have got work permits for most of the players they signed now.soapboxsam said:What part of the Brentford model is attractive to Thomas Sandgaard or our fan base ?
They have no academies but are in the Premier by buying good young players like Toney who's agent will no doubt be looking to get him a transfer soon.
We are the polar opposite as we sell our better younger players.
They play friendlies games with a reserve side.
We need the next manager to have more faith in getting our better youngsters into the first team squad and Sandgaard not selling them within half a dozen games.
This is also why most of the serious talent in L1 and L2 is just getting sucked into the Championship without an intermediate stop at one of the bigger/higher spending L1 teams.
I don't think people realise the effect of championship clubs not being able to buy foreign players has on league 1. We probably wouldn't have been able to sign Stephens, Wiggins, Morrison or Yann if it was like that then.
1. Academy prioritisation (albeit we will get raided constantly particularly while we are in L1 and not a Cat 1 and there is no guarantee we get enough quality players through and under contract to use it to generate either better squads or profit on the investment).
2. PL/Champ loans - we've tried this but safe to say it's been below par in the past... if we had the current environment now we may well not have got Beilik and Cullen in 2018 (sucked into Championship player shortfall vortex).
3. Non league - big risk, potentially big reward.
4. Out of contract players from above - come with experience and higher salary demands and no sell on potential. We've lost this strategy massively in the last couple of season when you compare say Pratley to Watson and Gunter.
5. Targeting what's left of the best in L1 and L2 - risky picking up the leftovers from Championship clubs, the highest ceiling players will have gone unless we go in early or the odd sensible player comes along like Twine who takes a prudent middle step to win a much better move in future. However we were apparently never in for Twine because by that stage we were too fixated with bringing in his predecessor who was already beyond our reach.
6. Play the yo yo game and exploit the income/reserves differential when you get relegated (but you've got to yo first to get there!).
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He's after a reaction & likes people talking about him so he can tell ittv how he enjoys winding people up on CLElfsborgAddick said:
Why do you post all this stuff? What satisfaction do you get?RonnieMoore said:Cafc43v3r said:
Despite Thomas himself saying he has? Did you miss that onRonnieMoore said:
He has not … just more rubbishsupaclive said:If TS has genuinely stopped transfers as he doesn't rate them and the manager doesn't get to say who/what we need, we are doubly fucked.
Nevermind.
Always next season.....
Asked if there was a danger he was interfering too much in first-team affairs, Sandgaard said: ““I obviously did not interfere with team selections for the games We need someone with a different type of experience. I’m not suggesting I will take the manager’s role and be down on pitch-side every day with the lads. That’s not my place. There are people much better at that and more qualified. No, I’m not going to be the manager or head coach.”
Think that’s pretty clear … move on
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Had you just dropped your guts?EugenesAxe said:Pardew just walked past me on the phone, by London Bridge, overheard him saying “it was horrible, really nasty…”
It’s a sign.4 - Sponsored links:
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Is this on twitter or something ? Do we know the contents of the letter ?J BLOCK said:
Embarrassing.golfaddick said:Just seen the video of Jonathan Ackworth up in Preston giving Rick Parry a letter regarding Sandgaard.
We do have some weird fans.
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Did it though? Or was Thomas only considering sacking Jackson then, which MS knew when speaking to CW, only to later get an itchy trigger finger after the Ipswich debacle! Apologies if this has already been made clear.Airman Brown said:
Maybe, but I’m not applying the above to one candidate in isolation. It doesn’t take four weeks to run a process especially if the intention to sack Jackson predates the end of the season.Garrymanilow said:
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.The fact TS suggested it might take longer doesn’t make that necessary or ideal either.1 -
Well I've been told I talk out of it, so I'll give it a go.. I can also add a brass section.RoanRedNY said:
As the lyrics are shite, your arse can sing it toocharltonbob said:
If that happens I'll have the lyrics of Addicks to victory tattooed on my arseCallumcafc said:
Repeat of 18/19...The Prince-e-Paul said:
Get money on a Charlton - Barnsley 1st & 2nd for promotion. Its a sign.Callumcafc said:Barnsley still looking for a manager ahead of their own probable squad rebuild. Trying to get onto BarnsleyLife to see what they're saying.
Charlton managerless since 3rd May. Barnsley managerless since 8th May (season ended a week later than ours).
Charlton, Barnsley and the team who finished 2nd in League Two the year before... Exeter.0 -
Should have interrupted saying: "Now you know how we all felt watching Charlton under you"EugenesAxe said:Pardew just walked past me on the phone, by London Bridge, overheard him saying “it was horrible, really nasty…”
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More likely Ipswich was the outcome of TS’s intention than the cause of it. The players knew this was on the cards. I was told by a club contact on the way back from the game.swordfish said:
Did it though? Or was Thomas only considering sacking Jackson then, which MS knew when speaking to CW, only to later get an itchy trigger finger after the Ipswich debacle! Apologies if this has already been made clear.Airman Brown said:
Maybe, but I’m not applying the above to one candidate in isolation. It doesn’t take four weeks to run a process especially if the intention to sack Jackson predates the end of the season.Garrymanilow said:
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.The fact TS suggested it might take longer doesn’t make that necessary or ideal either.
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Thanks dazzler 21 My dumb mistake.Computers and spell checks weren't even invented when i was born. Its just this constant waiting (for a manager) is trying my patienceDazzler21 said:paulg1947 said:And a view from left field-- Quote- The Zynex mission is to improve the quality of patience- WTF. We all know its to rip the patience off in this 'Land of the Free'' Thank God for Universal Health Care, With all its problems ,100% better than the U SOur mission is to improve the quality of life of patients suffering from debilitating pain or illnesses by providing the highest technology and service standards in the electrotherapy industry.0 -
Bless, the players' really chose when they wanted to play for Jacko or when they didn't fancy turning up.Airman Brown said:
More likely Ipswich was the outcome of TS’s intention than the cause of it. The players knew this was on the cards. I was told by a club contact on the way back from the game.swordfish said:
Did it though? Or was Thomas only considering sacking Jackson then, which MS knew when speaking to CW, only to later get an itchy trigger finger after the Ipswich debacle! Apologies if this has already been made clear.Airman Brown said:
Maybe, but I’m not applying the above to one candidate in isolation. It doesn’t take four weeks to run a process especially if the intention to sack Jackson predates the end of the season.Garrymanilow said:
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.The fact TS suggested it might take longer doesn’t make that necessary or ideal either.
Maybe their political stance is being given too much credit. They're simply shite apart from a few.0 -
I think motivation is a bit more complicated than that. They are people not robots. I’m not defending that performance or others during the season but if you don’t have everyone fully focused for whatever reason you are likely to fall short. I think the behind the scenes manoeuvring and the players’ perception of it is a big part of what happened last season.mendonca said:
Bless, the players' really chose when they wanted to play for Jacko or when they didn't fancy turning up.Airman Brown said:
More likely Ipswich was the outcome of TS’s intention than the cause of it. The players knew this was on the cards. I was told by a club contact on the way back from the game.swordfish said:
Did it though? Or was Thomas only considering sacking Jackson then, which MS knew when speaking to CW, only to later get an itchy trigger finger after the Ipswich debacle! Apologies if this has already been made clear.Airman Brown said:
Maybe, but I’m not applying the above to one candidate in isolation. It doesn’t take four weeks to run a process especially if the intention to sack Jackson predates the end of the season.Garrymanilow said:
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.The fact TS suggested it might take longer doesn’t make that necessary or ideal either.
Maybe their political stance is being given too much credit. They're simply shite apart from a few.11 -
And will continue to happen this season if the status quo remains.....Airman Brown said:
I think motivation is a bit more complicated than that. They are people not robots. I’m not defending that performance or others during the season but if you don’t have everyone fully focused for whatever reason you are likely to fall short. I think the behind the scenes manoeuvring and the players’ perception of it is a big part of what happened last season.mendonca said:
Bless, the players' really chose when they wanted to play for Jacko or when they didn't fancy turning up.Airman Brown said:
More likely Ipswich was the outcome of TS’s intention than the cause of it. The players knew this was on the cards. I was told by a club contact on the way back from the game.swordfish said:
Did it though? Or was Thomas only considering sacking Jackson then, which MS knew when speaking to CW, only to later get an itchy trigger finger after the Ipswich debacle! Apologies if this has already been made clear.Airman Brown said:
Maybe, but I’m not applying the above to one candidate in isolation. It doesn’t take four weeks to run a process especially if the intention to sack Jackson predates the end of the season.Garrymanilow said:
That may well be part of it, but in terms of Beale, would it not just be that he got an offer we couldn't really match? QPR announced Warburton was leaving on 28th April. Charlton sacked Jackson on 2nd May. QPR are a league above us, have been in the Premier League more recently than us and are really a more attractive prospect all round. It's not like they sacked their manager yesterday and swooped in over us, they had a lot of time to plan this as well and they'll be hoping for a push towards the Premier League next season. What are we offering Beale that can match that even in the best possible scenario?Airman Brown said:
Likely problems: refusal to recognise the market rate, either in salary or on termination; for managers, the scope of the role.AFKABartram said:
Posted that on 16th May and suspect that is what’s proven the case, particularly with Beale.AFKABartram said:My concern is quite similar to what with seen in player recruitment the last couple of years. Doing a decent job in identifying good candidates, but failing to attract them hereWe are not an unattractive proposition relative to most other third tier or provincial clubs.Both obstacles are likely to lead to extended discussions. In fairness, this is the best time of year to accommodate delays, but at some point you have to compromise.The fact TS suggested it might take longer doesn’t make that necessary or ideal either.
Maybe their political stance is being given too much credit. They're simply shite apart from a few.5
