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  • Not sure Man City need as much strengthening as our squad does. Might be wrong.
    I'd probably just about agree, although not sure what point you're making. 
  • JamesSeed said:
    Great stadium with potential to expand, good supporter base (filled one half of Wembley at recent playoff final), decent history, London based, which appeals to some at least. 
    It is a great stadium, albeit we don't own it so I don't see any expansion likely, even if we were filling the stadium. Plus, the land behind the east was sold off which I believe scuppers any expansion that side.
    Yes, we filled our end at Wembley, but unless we are challenging next season I foresee a lot of 4-figure attendances.
    Of course we are a more attractive proposition than many if not most of our League One small town competitors, but I was thinking in terms of attracting anybody with real pedigree but I don't see we have any pulling power.
    Beyond the above, which is really just wallpaper, we are now an established mid-table league one club with a pool of mostly mediocre players. 
    That is before we get to any concerns the potential recruit may have about choice of assistants or player recruitment.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Or left due to racist abuse his players were getting from their own fans? 
    No idea. Didn’t know that had happened 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Or left due to racist abuse his players were getting from their own fans? 
    That would tie in with what he was saying 
  • No idea. Didn’t know that had happened 
    So just made up the fact he got sacked then? Was a pretty bizarre appointment, just scrapped a month there. 
  • edited June 2022
    So just made up the fact he got sacked then? Was a pretty bizarre appointment, just scrapped a month there. 
    Saw he left. That’s literally it. With Pardew it’s always safe to assume he’s been sacked. 

    Made it up? Do one. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    The renewal was it the issue, it was how much it would cost to sack him.  He was still under contract so Thomas still had to do something. 
    I think I've unravelled what you are trying to say.

    My understanding is that Jackson was not sacked ... it was that Sandgaard chose not to extend his contract (presumably due to failing to meet the agreed performance criteria).

    Here's my source:

    Jackson out as Charlton boss as Addicks opt against contract extension | Evening Standard

    Now, if you know differently ... fair enough.

    Do you?
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  • Think he was referring to the new song Thomas had played him at the interview 
    Pardew is now available….
  • edited June 2022
    Pardew is now available….
    It would take an owner of breathtaking arrogance to think he knows better than the fanbase…

    *hang on, what’s the new song called again?…
  • edited June 2022
    MS was certainly extremely naive in saying anything to Conor Washington, but it really should have come as no surprise to anyone that after a failure of a season that TS would want to review what went wrong, and obviously that would include "is the current manager the man to take us forward".

    To suggest the players played poorly because Jackson's future was in doubt is simply to deny any responsibility players have to perform. The vast majority of managers' position are in doubt to one degree or another. The players can't just not turn up because there's a chance in how ever many days, weeks or months, the manager may lose their job.
  • edited June 2022
     ...Fair play to Pardew if the reason he left CSKA was racial abuse towards his own black players, reports showing bananas being thrown is disgusting,..he may have a chequered past and divided opinions on his managerial background, but can't fault his actions this time..fair play Alan..
  • edited June 2022
    MS was certainly extremely naive in saying anything to Conor Washington, but it really should have come as no surprise to anyone that after a failure of a season that TS would want to review what went wrong, and obviously that would include "is the current manager the man to take us forward".

    To suggest the players played poorly because Jackson's future was in doubt is simply to deny any responsibility players have to perform. The vast majority of managers' position are in doubt to one degree or another. The players can't just not turn up because there's a chance in how ever many days, weeks or months, the manager may lose their job.

    The conversation wasnt initially about Jackson though, Washington was told that any contract for him wouldnt happen as of then as a/the new man might not want him. 

    "Hey lads, MS just said any contract talks for us OOC players wont happen unitl they maybe sack Jacko....the man who´s been calling for contract talks for some of us....Anyway, 110% on Saturday boys lets do thissssssssssssssssssssssssssss A2V"
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  • @Airman Brown I won't quote the whole conversation again, but it's my fault I misconstrued your words. 
  • edited June 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    "Johnnie Jackson’s initial contract at Charlton Athletic is for 18 months – with their league finish only affecting the amount of compensation paid if Thomas Sandgaard opts to dispense with his services."

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/more-detail-emerges-on-charlton-manager-johnnie-jacksons-contractual-situation/

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    So, we have three versions:

    1) Cawley (18 Feb 2022) Johnnie Jackson’s initial contract at Charlton Athletic is for 18 months – with their league finish only affecting the amount of compensation paid if Thomas Sandgaard opts to dispense with his services.


    2) Cawley (11 Feb 2022) The Addicks boss could be out of contract this summer with a guaranteed 12-month extension only triggered based on the club’s final finish in League One.


    3) Evening Standard (3 May 2022) Johnnie Jackson's 12-year association with Charlton Athletic is over after the club elected not to extend his contract as manager beyond the summer.

    Anyone know the truth?

    One interpretation might be that all are correct ... ie, the 12-month extension is only triggered if we make (eg) the top six, but Jackson gets more of a payout if we finish 7th compared to 9th etc.
  • Dave Rudd said:
    So, we have three versions:

    1) Cawley (18 Feb 2022) Johnnie Jackson’s initial contract at Charlton Athletic is for 18 months – with their league finish only affecting the amount of compensation paid if Thomas Sandgaard opts to dispense with his services.


    2) Cawley (11 Feb 2022) The Addicks boss could be out of contract this summer with a guaranteed 12-month extension only triggered based on the club’s final finish in League One.


    3) Evening Standard (3 May 2022) Johnnie Jackson's 12-year association with Charlton Athletic is over after the club elected not to extend his contract as manager beyond the summer.

    Anyone know the truth?

    One interpretation might be that all are correct ... ie, the 12-month extension is only triggered if we make (eg) the top six, but Jackson gets more of a payout if we finish 7th compared to 9th etc.
    Option number 1 is the correct one.
  • Option number 1 is the correct one.
    Cheers. Can you send me a copy?
  • Dave Rudd said:
    So, we have three versions:

    1) Cawley (18 Feb 2022) Johnnie Jackson’s initial contract at Charlton Athletic is for 18 months – with their league finish only affecting the amount of compensation paid if Thomas Sandgaard opts to dispense with his services.


    2) Cawley (11 Feb 2022) The Addicks boss could be out of contract this summer with a guaranteed 12-month extension only triggered based on the club’s final finish in League One.


    3) Evening Standard (3 May 2022) Johnnie Jackson's 12-year association with Charlton Athletic is over after the club elected not to extend his contract as manager beyond the summer.

    Anyone know the truth?

    One interpretation might be that all are correct ... ie, the 12-month extension is only triggered if we make (eg) the top six, but Jackson gets more of a payout if we finish 7th compared to 9th etc.
    He had a contract until the end of the 22/23 season already.  So I can't believe he signed a shorter one with no compensation.

    All the interviews post dismissal use sacked, not that he just didn't get it renewed. 

    I think 1 is the truth but as you say you could interpreate them as all being technically correct. 
  • Alan Pardew chooses some strange places to go and Manage. If he had done some due diligence he wouldn't have gone there. Bulgaria and Hungary to name just two countries going towards eastern Europe as we know if you watch England games have some Racist supporters. 

    Perhaps it's getting more expensive to keep his harem going as I can't believe he couldn't get a job in the states if he is persona non Grata in the UK ?

    Good on him for walking out as Alex Dyer is his assistant and he has Black players in his team. He really shouldn't be surprised.
  • Saw he left. That’s literally it. With Pardew it’s always safe to assume he’s been sacked. 

    Made it up? Do one. 
    Always...
  • Fumbluff said:
    Alma Swanley? Or do you really mean Crockenhill?
    Sad to hear Swanley don't have a team, I played for Swanley Town, mid to late eighties in The Spartan League. Love to tell my sons that I am the only semi-pro in the family, we used to get £4 a match + fuel costs for away games. £4 probably got you 3 pints in the clubhouse after the match. 
  • Permission to panic, Mr Mainwaring.
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