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  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    addick1956 said:
    ISawLeaburnScore said:
    addick1956 said:
    ISawLeaburnScore said:
    soapboxsam said:
    What part of the Brentford model is attractive to Thomas Sandgaard or our fan base ?

    They have no academies but are in the Premier by buying good young players like Toney who's agent will no doubt be looking to get him a transfer soon.

    We are the polar opposite as we sell our better younger players.

    They play friendlies games with a reserve side.

    We need the next manager to have more faith in getting our better youngsters into the first team squad and Sandgaard not selling them within half a dozen games. 
    The elephant in the room is probably that the "Brentford model" just doesn't work post Brexit. They were fuelled by significant investment and time spent in international scouting, resulting in bringing in talent for less than the competition and then being able to sell them for many times more or being able to retain them and grow them as they rose up the leagues. They wouldn't have got work permits for most of the players they signed now.

    This is also why most of the serious talent in L1 and L2 is just getting sucked into the Championship without an intermediate stop at one of the bigger/higher spending L1 teams.
    Brexit was in 2016 and officially we left before Brentford got to the Premiershit . 
    We didn't leave the EU until 2020 and subsequent to that there was a transition period. By that time, signing players like Mbuemo, Maupay, Benrahma or building the platform to win promotion was long in the rear view mirror for them
    Yes and ?   Brentford went up in 2021 after we left the EU....I am aware who played for them and some of those had gone by then.
    I only made the comment because your post started "Brexit was in 2016" which I inferred meant you disagreed with the comment that what Brentford achieved is no longer possible post-Brexit. The EU and ease of bringing in cheaper and unfamiliar players in comparison to their competition facilitated their rise. I don't know how the relationship between their model and Brexit is debatable really.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,336
    No inside info but maybe now Beale is no longer an option TS will blink in the contract conditions poker game he's been playing, possibly maybe I don't know, with Super Ben.

    WIOTOS but I wish they'd get a bloody move on, for the sake of a few Lifers' stress levels if nothing else.




  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    blackpool72 said:
    mendonca said:
    Many Charlton fans just have not acclimatised into the Club and Team we are. 

    It really is easier pointing out issues without having an input in resolving them.
    An input in resolving them is quite simple. 
    Hire a decent manager 
    Give them the funds to recruit the right players. 
    Do not interfere with team selection or training tactics. 
    It really is that simple. 
    Do not interfere with team selection or training tactics. 

    Is this 100% fact and verified by anybody credible? Or is it being used as an excuse to get stuck into TS? 

    I would love to see this question put to Thomas maybe by the fans representative and see what the unedited answer is. Or are we not aloud to ask difficult questions?

    also, is your son picking the new recruits and has the final say? 

    Just to stop all the hearsay and speculation because then we can all get on with supporting the team.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    Henry Irving said:
    No inside info but maybe now Beale is no longer an option TS will blink in the contract conditions poker game he's been playing, possibly maybe I don't know, with Super Ben.

    WIOTOS but I wish they'd get a bloody move on, for the sake of a few Lifers' stress levels if nothing else.




    Amen to that
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,722
    clive said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Alan Pardew sacked…
    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12625320/alan-pardew-leaves-cska-sofia-after-bananas-thrown-at-black-players
    Fair play to Pardew. Didn't even realise him and Alex were there tbh.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,517
    edited June 2022
    Really thought TS had someone waiting in the wings and they would be in place pretty much straight after Jackson departed.
    Can only assume something went seriously awry with TS and Jacksons relationship late on and TS had no alternative but to give him the boot?

    If he never fancied him in the first place and knew months ago he'd be getting rid then this latest carry on really is a farce.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    edited June 2022
    Henry Irving said:
    No inside info but maybe now Beale is no longer an option TS will blink in the contract conditions poker game he's been playing, possibly maybe I don't know, with Super Ben.

    WIOTOS but I wish they'd get a bloody move on, for the sake of a few Lifers' stress levels if nothing else.




    Maybe it’s not a poker game?,  and Beale knew better options were going to be available, so he was a non starter with us anyway? Feels like he may have been looking above us all along. 
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    What’s the latest on the Swanley game?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,164
    IAgree said:
    What’s the latest on the Swanley game?
    We’ve conceded….
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,328
    Warburton- best thing since sliced bread

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  • stockportugaladdick
    stockportugaladdick Posts: 1,157
    KingKinsella said:
    Warburton- best thing since sliced bread
    We won't pay the dough he will knead to earn a decent crust
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Not sure I want him loafing about the plaice,,  do you see what I’ve done there?🐟😬
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,016
    Disappointing to miss out on Beale. He’s one of us and I think will be a real success. 
    Feeling like Groundhog Day again. 

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,755
    cafcfan1990 said:
    blackpool72 said:
    mendonca said:
    Many Charlton fans just have not acclimatised into the Club and Team we are. 

    It really is easier pointing out issues without having an input in resolving them.
    An input in resolving them is quite simple. 
    Hire a decent manager 
    Give them the funds to recruit the right players. 
    Do not interfere with team selection or training tactics. 
    It really is that simple. 
    Very simple when it's not your money though isn't it. 
    Well if you haven't got the funds to get the job done why buy the club in the first place 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,499
    The Charlton Athletic news cycle ......

    Nothing happening - anger - bad news - anger - puns - slight enjoyment - too many puns - anger - (repeat).
  • charltonman2016
    charltonman2016 Posts: 1,118
    Looks like Thomas and his Mrs are over next week now.



  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,499
    charltonman2016 said:
    Looks like Thomas and his Mrs are over next week now.



    Cue someone else telling us they are due over next week in a few hours/days.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cfgs said:
    charltonman2016 said:
    Looks like Thomas and his Mrs are over next week now.



    Cue someone else telling us they are due over next week in a few hours/days.
    Just wait for it to filter through to the special Instagram account....... 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,755
    Waiting for Colin to update us 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    blackpool72 said:
    Waiting for Colin to update us 
    They will be back home by then. 

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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    blackpool72 said:
    Waiting for Colin to update us 
    Until he does I refuse to believe this.

    Has it been reported in the Plymouth local press yet?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,176
    Heard Sandgaard is over here early next week. Can’t reveal my source. 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,421
    Has he decided to take on the role himself?

    I hear he can do 15 keepy uppys whilst playing the first few bars of Apache by The Shadows
  • sholland
    sholland Posts: 488
    We have made some progress today, we can rule out Michael Beale and Amber Heard. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,037
    Fucking hell, we all want things to move quickly and this forum is an outlet but the bordering depressive state of some people on here is almost painful. It happens when it happens. I still believe Garner will be announced once details are ironed out.
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,716
    Goals are dreams with deadlines.

    Diana Scharf
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,302
    J BLOCK said:
    Was willing to give TS the summer, but nearly a month on and still no new manager is a joke. We are behind everyone else this summer AGAIN. 
    But sandgaard said that he had learnt his lesson from this time last year. Surely we won't be lagging behind again ?

    Matthews if you're out of work when the transfer window slams shut just give tommy or martin a call.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,243
    I'd quite like to see Appleton myself, if only for the amusement value. Only shown twice I think in over 200 pages, despite being available. I wonder if he's been interviewed.   
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    There’s little point in blaming Thomas for not landing Michael Beale. He’s obviously been in demand and I doubt whatever TS offered him he would come to us and he always was going to lean towards a Championship side if the offer came in. Truth is we can’t compete with clubs like QPR. QPR announced Beale today so perhaps Thomas has been pursuing Beale right up until that point. There could be reason for the delay right there. 

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