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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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From a journo in Swindon1 -
So TS has made some mistakes, let's hope if any of you lot make a few mistakes in your job, you aren't thought of like this, your probably get fired
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Check JJs record when CW and JS were fit to play together......paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.5 -
Stop talking bollox.supaclive said:
Check JJs record when CW and JS were fit to play together......paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.9 -
OK fair enough - so for my benefit…
why was Roddy a mistake?Has Roddy’s son really impacted things?MS - people are now calling out some of the great signings made by Driesen, so maybe the data is key!Charlton Ladies - agreedRonnie - crap signing won’t be the last
I agree on the song but it’s not contributed to anything on the pitch.Fill the ground - I’m a ST holder and I got what he was trying to do, it didn’t work, but the right intentions were there.
Washington - that’s a matter of opinion, so many fans saying he wasn’t good enough.
Loan signings - I agree that was strange but again, who really knows the circumstances around those signings.
IMO when Skiverton joined JJ was going to be in charge this year but the end to last season was woeful.No current manager - he said we’d have a manager before pre-season
my point is the list above is not that bad. I’m not saying we shouldn’t criticise but a lot on here and Twitter and other sites are going way over-board!11 -
Have you checked it?paulfox said:
Stop talking bollox.supaclive said:
Check JJs record when CW and JS were fit to play together......paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.
"Jackson has also continually emphasised the fact that when both Jayden Stockley and Conor Washington have started together, he has never lost."1 -
It wasn't but the reason Jackson was the caretaker in the first place was, mainly, because of the summer recruitment.paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.
The fact that Martin was involved in that and is now more involved doesn't fill me with any confidence at all.
If you think Martin has the back ground and experience to play such a crucial role can you tell me why? Because I am not the only one.3 -
Thanks for trying to keep us on topic Ross!Rossman92 said:From a journo in Swindon14 -
For someone doing so much moaning about the person doing the stats, you are throwing a lot of stats out there to accompany you’re moaning. Maybe you know of some investors, new potential owners to make it all better?, no?…. The let them try and put things right instead of whinging about what you don’t like.supaclive said:
Have you checked it?paulfox said:
Stop talking bollox.supaclive said:
Check JJs record when CW and JS were fit to play together......paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.5 -
Read up.....
We're allowed to have concerns.
You're allowed to believe all will get better.
No swearing required.
Enjoy your long bank holiday weekend. Have a few beers. We'll all still be here Monday.5 - Sponsored links:
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If Garner is announced this week after all the faffing around, as expected, I would say that rather than just losing credibility, TS is going to look like an idiot. Will be a tricky job for the PR team!supaclive said:
The plain fact is that MS is not qualified to be his eyes and ears.seth plum said:If people at the club have been taking the piss when TS is absent, and if he feels he has been somewhat ‘played’ on the football side (Watson may be an example), then to me it makes sense that he wants his son around to protect his interests.
The problem seems to be about Martin and Thomas’ eyes being bigger than their stomachs, job titles and autonomy being less than ideal.
It is much easier from a supporters point of view to look at the games and absorb the results, if we win consistently a lot of angst will dissipate.
I still maintain that 2000 fans were betrayed at Ipswich, and were I Thomas at that game I would contemplate how much of that betrayal was my fault, and how much was down to precious footballers and football management seeking to demonstrate how pissed off they were.
2000 fans were shown up at the wrong place at the wrong time.
What part of the last 18 months makes you think he is. Or that TS genuinely can make this work?
Thank fcuk he saved us but we're going nowhere fast under this structure.
Listen to @Airman Brown when he mentions ex pros in the game, club insiders and players at the club that have a questionable perception of TS.
Nobody wants TS to fail. Jesus I love his enthusiasm and his passion. But it isn't, from a results perspective, working.
If Garner is announced this week, TS is going to lose some credibility in the fact Cawley said 10+ days ago he had the job, he's left Swindon, he's "apparently" been to the training ground three times already and yet TS still says he's not hired anybody yet.....0 -
The Martin obsession continues..!
Anyway, sounds positive from the Swindon journo. Let’s hope he’s in charge from next week.
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Indeed, hope you get over you’re bout of negativity, hope you also cheer up by Monday.supaclive said:Read up.....
We're allowed to have concerns.
You're allowed to believe all will get better.
No swearing required.
Enjoy your long bank holiday weekend. Have a few beers. We'll all still be here Monday.3 -
Faffing around?! You’re taking another teams manager. I’m sure plenty of details have to be sorted and agreed on by Charlton, Swindon and Garner.thetomahawkkid said:
If Garner is announced this week after all the faffing around, as expected, I would say that rather than just losing credibility, TS is going to look like an idiot. Will be a tricky job for the PR team!supaclive said:
The plain fact is that MS is not qualified to be his eyes and ears.seth plum said:If people at the club have been taking the piss when TS is absent, and if he feels he has been somewhat ‘played’ on the football side (Watson may be an example), then to me it makes sense that he wants his son around to protect his interests.
The problem seems to be about Martin and Thomas’ eyes being bigger than their stomachs, job titles and autonomy being less than ideal.
It is much easier from a supporters point of view to look at the games and absorb the results, if we win consistently a lot of angst will dissipate.
I still maintain that 2000 fans were betrayed at Ipswich, and were I Thomas at that game I would contemplate how much of that betrayal was my fault, and how much was down to precious footballers and football management seeking to demonstrate how pissed off they were.
2000 fans were shown up at the wrong place at the wrong time.
What part of the last 18 months makes you think he is. Or that TS genuinely can make this work?
Thank fcuk he saved us but we're going nowhere fast under this structure.
Listen to @Airman Brown when he mentions ex pros in the game, club insiders and players at the club that have a questionable perception of TS.
Nobody wants TS to fail. Jesus I love his enthusiasm and his passion. But it isn't, from a results perspective, working.
If Garner is announced this week, TS is going to lose some credibility in the fact Cawley said 10+ days ago he had the job, he's left Swindon, he's "apparently" been to the training ground three times already and yet TS still says he's not hired anybody yet.....
No PR spin required. Most of us understand these things don’t happen overnight.14 -
Hey, general discussions thread:
That latest Stranger Things season huh? Thoughts?0 -
So BEN GARNER is our new man…makes sense for all the delays #UpTheAddicks
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100%!ValleyGary said:
Faffing around?! You’re taking another teams manager. I’m sure plenty of details have to be sorted and agreed on by Charlton, Swindon and Garner.thetomahawkkid said:
If Garner is announced this week after all the faffing around, as expected, I would say that rather than just losing credibility, TS is going to look like an idiot. Will be a tricky job for the PR team!supaclive said:
The plain fact is that MS is not qualified to be his eyes and ears.seth plum said:If people at the club have been taking the piss when TS is absent, and if he feels he has been somewhat ‘played’ on the football side (Watson may be an example), then to me it makes sense that he wants his son around to protect his interests.
The problem seems to be about Martin and Thomas’ eyes being bigger than their stomachs, job titles and autonomy being less than ideal.
It is much easier from a supporters point of view to look at the games and absorb the results, if we win consistently a lot of angst will dissipate.
I still maintain that 2000 fans were betrayed at Ipswich, and were I Thomas at that game I would contemplate how much of that betrayal was my fault, and how much was down to precious footballers and football management seeking to demonstrate how pissed off they were.
2000 fans were shown up at the wrong place at the wrong time.
What part of the last 18 months makes you think he is. Or that TS genuinely can make this work?
Thank fcuk he saved us but we're going nowhere fast under this structure.
Listen to @Airman Brown when he mentions ex pros in the game, club insiders and players at the club that have a questionable perception of TS.
Nobody wants TS to fail. Jesus I love his enthusiasm and his passion. But it isn't, from a results perspective, working.
If Garner is announced this week, TS is going to lose some credibility in the fact Cawley said 10+ days ago he had the job, he's left Swindon, he's "apparently" been to the training ground three times already and yet TS still says he's not hired anybody yet.....
No PR spin required. Most of us understand these things don’t happen overnight.
including any discussions involving his coaching team and possible DoF coming aswell who knows how much negotiating has been going on3 -
At the moment I'm not exactly a champion of TS' when it comes to decision-making but if (big If) it is true that Garner was on holiday until the end of this week, what other than public closure is to be gained by announcing him before early next week, particularly if for whatever reason the terms for his backroom staff aren't yet closed?thetomahawkkid said:
If Garner is announced this week after all the faffing around, as expected, I would say that rather than just losing credibility, TS is going to look like an idiot. Will be a tricky job for the PR team!supaclive said:
The plain fact is that MS is not qualified to be his eyes and ears.seth plum said:If people at the club have been taking the piss when TS is absent, and if he feels he has been somewhat ‘played’ on the football side (Watson may be an example), then to me it makes sense that he wants his son around to protect his interests.
The problem seems to be about Martin and Thomas’ eyes being bigger than their stomachs, job titles and autonomy being less than ideal.
It is much easier from a supporters point of view to look at the games and absorb the results, if we win consistently a lot of angst will dissipate.
I still maintain that 2000 fans were betrayed at Ipswich, and were I Thomas at that game I would contemplate how much of that betrayal was my fault, and how much was down to precious footballers and football management seeking to demonstrate how pissed off they were.
2000 fans were shown up at the wrong place at the wrong time.
What part of the last 18 months makes you think he is. Or that TS genuinely can make this work?
Thank fcuk he saved us but we're going nowhere fast under this structure.
Listen to @Airman Brown when he mentions ex pros in the game, club insiders and players at the club that have a questionable perception of TS.
Nobody wants TS to fail. Jesus I love his enthusiasm and his passion. But it isn't, from a results perspective, working.
If Garner is announced this week, TS is going to lose some credibility in the fact Cawley said 10+ days ago he had the job, he's left Swindon, he's "apparently" been to the training ground three times already and yet TS still says he's not hired anybody yet.....
I'm as desperate as the next person for signs of progress that we can work out a way to escape this current malaise but appointing a manager during his holiday (which I think he probably needs more than a curtailed break for his own wellbeing and capacity to do a good job next season) doesn't allow much more time to impact anything than doing so almost immediately upon his return. For all we know they may have already discussed detail behind the plan for the next month remotely while the final points in the deal are being resolved. Garner isn't going to want to cut off his nose to spite his face (particularly if he's going to potentially suffer under a performance-related severance term) if he has chosen us as his next move and thinks it's more likely than not it will go through.1 - Sponsored links:
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I’ve not once said I think he is qualified, I’m in no position to judge, but pinning all our problems on a bloke because of who his dad is, and implying it’s all his decisions is a load of rubbish. Jackson and the players proved at some point they could compete, when they decided they didn’t want to anymore, that’s on them not the owner or his son.Cafc43v3r said:
It wasn't but the reason Jackson was the caretaker in the first place was, mainly, because of the summer recruitment.paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.
The fact that Martin was involved in that and is now more involved doesn't fill me with any confidence at all.
If you think Martin has the back ground and experience to play such a crucial role can you tell me why? Because I am not the only one.7 -
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https://twitter.com/ryan_walker14/status/1533050056483524608?s=21&t=8EirlmO5etMOyQtD3B6BOwSeems a low salary for a manager for us? Or is football just that bonkers with money now I see 90k per year a low wage0
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No one is pinning all our problems on him.paulfox said:
I’ve not once said I think he is qualified, I’m in no position to judge, but pinning all our problems on a bloke because of who his dad is, and implying it’s all his decisions is a load of rubbish. Jackson and the players proved at some point they could compete, when they decided they didn’t want to anymore, that’s on them not the owner or his son.Cafc43v3r said:
It wasn't but the reason Jackson was the caretaker in the first place was, mainly, because of the summer recruitment.paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.
The fact that Martin was involved in that and is now more involved doesn't fill me with any confidence at all.
If you think Martin has the back ground and experience to play such a crucial role can you tell me why? Because I am not the only one.
The common theme is who makes the football decisions and whose advice is sought and taken. If you listen to what Thomas says it's quite clear that Martin has more influence than any "football" people. It's a symptom of a wider issue.6 -
Ok👍Cafc43v3r said:
No one is pinning all our problems on him.paulfox said:
I’ve not once said I think he is qualified, I’m in no position to judge, but pinning all our problems on a bloke because of who his dad is, and implying it’s all his decisions is a load of rubbish. Jackson and the players proved at some point they could compete, when they decided they didn’t want to anymore, that’s on them not the owner or his son.Cafc43v3r said:
It wasn't but the reason Jackson was the caretaker in the first place was, mainly, because of the summer recruitment.paulfox said:
Wasn’t a problem when Jackson was caretaker, and don’t give me the we didn’t have strikers for however long, because the missed hatfuls when they played aswell. If Jackson had continued how he began , nobody would be questioning what MS was doing.thenewbie said:
Well part of the problem is that we have not recruited very well which no doubt made things harder for Jackson regardless of other failings.paulfox said:
So he is the reason for Jackson and the players being shit?supaclive said:
YES!paulfox said:
Has he? Are you sure? 18 months?supaclive said:
MS has been head of "data" for 18 months.....paulfox said:
I’m sorry but this post is all hypothetical to come to a suitable narrative, is his son in authority and the cause of anything wrong yet? We haven’t had anything happen to judge whether he has done good or bad, nobody complained at the time of hiring various people and so opinion has been based on hindsight. Do we all want him to do well? because as I see it any opportunity to dig him out is being taken? The attitude of I’ll support him if he does what I think he should, is selfish, shallow and boring .Phil said:I don’t think Sandgaard has played a blinder. Appointing his son and giving him authority in a position where he lacks expertise and experience is already looking a poor decision. The CW incident alone is clear evidence of that. It’s widely believed that Junior and perceived interference has cost us a couple of candidates.
His record in hiring and firing at the club is atrocious. This ongoing saga does little to change that.
We all want him to do well and thereby, the club in turn. However, he doesn’t appear ready and willing to learn from mistakes. That doesn’t bode well.
He is PART of the system that has failed. So while it's not fair to say he is the whole and entire reason for a poor season he very much is PART of the reason.
The fact that Martin was involved in that and is now more involved doesn't fill me with any confidence at all.
If you think Martin has the back ground and experience to play such a crucial role can you tell me why? Because I am not the only one.
The common theme is who makes the football decisions and whose advice is sought and taken. If you listen to what Thomas says it's quite clear that Martin has more influence than any "football" people. It's a symptom of a wider issue.0 -
More like BOOMcharltonbob said:
Give it timegrumpyaddick said:I would like to see TS with his shirt off striking a large gong to announce the new manager.
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Explains the delay then, negotiations take time I guess, just want this done so the bed wetters can enjoy their summer!TheAddicks4Ever said:So BEN GARNER is our new man…makes sense for all the delays #UpTheAddicks1 -
We will need some players too.RedRobin said:
Explains the delay then, negotiations take time I guess, just want this done so the bed wetters can enjoy their summer!TheAddicks4Ever said:So BEN GARNER is our new man…makes sense for all the delays #UpTheAddicks1 -
So much effort to achieve such mediocrity.7
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Apart from you just saying it, I believe there are very few, if any saying that TS is immune to criticism.DamoNorthStand said:
It’s the year 2030. Charlton have just completed the Derby double over Dulwich Hamlet as Thomas proclaims the road to the Prem starts here.Themightyath2 said:I think everyone needs to cut TS some slack.
We have a club to support thanks to him, no one else. Forget Barclay, he didn’t want to get involved without the assets, so TS was the only option and we all owe him a massive thanks.Has he over promised, has he made mistakes - yes, but who hasn’t.For the last 15 years, this club has been poorly run, so we need to forget the “that’s not the way we do things at Charlton mindset”.
He genuinely wants to build something here, so let’s get behind him, ride out the good with the bad, and be grateful that we’ll have a competitive club to support come the start of the season.
Just because we were mixing it in the premier league once, does not mean we have a right to do so again. Look at Oldham!
Honestly I can’t deal with this anymore. He saved the club doesn’t mean he (or anyone else) is immune to criticism. It’s beyond parody.
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