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Now's the time for Sandgaard to SELL UP
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That's a very long winded way to say he's a prick 🙄Bailey said:Lets put this in some sort of context. All of us, maybe, thought the signs were good at the start of the season, good football played and four points on the board. We then reach the transfer window closing, we then see the loyal staff at the Valley being dismissed in a very American fashion, we now understand the depth of the problem. The problem is and always has been that whatever TS is allegedly worth he doesn't have the cash to maintain the losses and sustain the club, any dismissals, budget cuts and overall lack of investment will not make a dent in his continued losses, worse still he, as Airman predicted, will empty the ground with an absurd pricing policy and poor results further adding to the debt. TS's statements are sometimes absurd, just this week he embarrassed himself by accusing Portsmouth of being big spenders, he followed that by a statement to Charlton supporters declaring himself unaware of free tickets being handed out. He now no longer sends out positive tweets and his last few public comments have all been defensive, what does this mean for us ? He wants out ! It's my belief that he is searching around for a buyer but he needs to convince someone that Charlton is a viable business, hence his ridiculous comments about breaking even. I actually believe Sandgaard will be gone by this seasons end but it needs someone of strong character and wallet to get the club back together as one and provide the impetus to move the club forward.5 -
Thats positive but the secind one is a big ask.Arthur_Trudgill said:
Give BG time. Keep pressure on TS to buy quality/suitable players. Get fans attending matches. There are 36 games left in the season. Injuries derail even the best teams, and we seem to have avoided Bowyer level outages so far. We have Jesurun Rak-Sakyi.AFKABartram said:...Someone paint me a realistic positive outcome please?1 -
I didn't.Bailey said:Lets put this in some sort of context. All of us, maybe, thought the signs were good at the start of the season, good football played and four points on the board. We then reach the transfer window closing, we then see the loyal staff at the Valley being dismissed in a very American fashion, we now understand the depth of the problem. The problem is and always has been that whatever TS is allegedly worth he doesn't have the cash to maintain the losses and sustain the club, any dismissals, budget cuts and overall lack of investment will not make a dent in his continued losses, worse still he, as Airman predicted, will empty the ground with an absurd pricing policy and poor results further adding to the debt. TS's statements are sometimes absurd, just this week he embarrassed himself by accusing Portsmouth of being big spenders, he followed that by a statement to Charlton supporters declaring himself unaware of free tickets being handed out. He now no longer sends out positive tweets and his last few public comments have all been defensive, what does this mean for us ? He wants out ! It's my belief that he is searching around for a buyer but he needs to convince someone that Charlton is a viable business, hence his ridiculous comments about breaking even. I actually believe Sandgaard will be gone by this seasons end but it needs someone of strong character and wallet to get the club back together as one and provide the impetus to move the club forward.0 -
A few others didn't either.0
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Gribbo said:
Do you think I was being serious then?SDAddick said:
To who?!?! We were up for sale for years under Roland. We basically operate at a permanent loss of millions of pounds and the ground wouldn't be a part of the sale.Gribbo said:Yeah time to sell up, it's that easy
Even if he sold it for one pound, how many people do you think are out there wanting to sink five million quid into a business every year with no clear path at recouping that money, and with all the chances in the world of those finances getting worse?
I'm not a fan of TS, but I feel like people need to understand that he serves the purposes of keeping the club afloat. That is not something that is guaranteed.
This is indeed very true.
The issue I have had all along, when I was saying this season would unfold as it has back in May, was that its exactly what Roland was doing. Keeping the club afloat.
The important factor was that he was doing it with a better team and league position (in the Championship at times) than we find ourselves in at the moment.0 -
Yet Barclay and crew were willing to do just that.AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.1 -
I think this is the most realistic goal, to be achieved in the shortest amount of time, with the minimum amount of stressArthur_Trudgill said:
Give BG time. Keep pressure on TS to buy quality/suitable players. Get fans attending matches. There are 36 games left in the season. Injuries derail even the best teams, and we seem to have avoided Bowyer level outages so far. We have Jesurun Rak-Sakyi.AFKABartram said:...Someone paint me a realistic positive outcome please?
If the manager and players are performing on the pitch**, it at least the Club becomes a more viable proposition to interested parties for TS to sell too.
** Totally understand this is what we've all been waiting for, but still think it would be the quickest way for the Club to move forward, under new ownership. Protesting while we're playing shit, will only end in a stalemate and another bad situation.
Be a bit like doing a geal with the devil
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Rather than sell the club, I would be happy with a Peter Varney type character coming in and running the club. We need a footballing mind who knows our club. Let TS take the praise for a well run club but let someone else do the work7
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how?Cafc43v3r said:
They could a club half the size...Lincsaddick said:
how are 'the fans' going to find the necessary £millions to run a club even half the size of CAFC ?Cafc43v3r said:One thing I will say is if the size of the club is going to shrink, due to years of league 1 football, we might as well be fan owned. At least in the short, medium, term.
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Really?The Red Robin said:
Yet Barclay and crew were willing to do just that.AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.2 -
That won't happen now. Nobody decent would want the gig. We are focusing on the pitch understandably but the club has been a shambles behind the scenes last season as well as this. Not only a shambles but a nasty one at that. JFC didn't want his contract extended but it was and it bit the bastards on the bum. Loyal, hardworking staff have been bullied and treated atrociously. Jacko was treated atrociously.cafckev said:Rather than sell the club, I would be happy with a Peter Varney type character coming in and running the club. We need a footballing mind who knows our club. Let TS take the praise for a well run club but let someone else do the work4 -
You just buy Roland out ,Sandgaard will not be able to carry on with his loss making business. End of day he will except anything for the club.AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
What of course is important is that everything is brought under the same roof.
Its going to be hard but at the end of the day it will happen.0 -
AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.32 -
Sounds like a decent night out Rodders. What time we meeting?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.15 -
Every Saturday and Tuesday for the rest of our lives mate :-)Off_it said:
Sounds like a decent night out Rodders. What time we meeting?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.12 -
Yeah and once it’s been handed over they will all pose for a picture with TS, completely nullifying the effect.sammy391 said:CAST, get a survey sorted!Something official needs to be put across to the ownership1 -
Bailey said:
Thats positive but the secind one is a big ask.Arthur_Trudgill said:
Give BG time. Keep pressure on TS to buy quality/suitable players. Get fans attending matches. There are 36 games left in the season. Injuries derail even the best teams, and we seem to have avoided Bowyer level outages so far. We have Jesurun Rak-Sakyi.AFKABartram said:...Someone paint me a realistic positive outcome please?
And the third one will never happen while we're having poor results and exorbitant ticket prices.
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Do we get a seat on the bus?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.3 -
Got to say, I snapped too when he said we'd be in the premiership in five years time. Is it just me who thinks his Missus has told him to stop tweeting bollocks, couldn't help himself with his Portsmouth and Bystander comments though could he.MuttleyCAFC said:A few others didn't either.1 -
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I think the message is already hitting home and will get worse, namely the attendance figures.eaststandmike said:
Yeah and once it’s been handed over they will all pose for a picture with TS, completely nullifying the effect.sammy391 said:CAST, get a survey sorted!Something official needs to be put across to the ownership1 -
Gribbo said:
Do we get a seat on the bus?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.
Yeah but wait til you get home for the pot noodle and wank.
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Yep. At the front with the cool kids at the back chucking chips at us as the tears stream down our cheeks as we contemplate having to do it again next weekend.Gribbo said:
Do we get a seat on the bus?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.6 -
As the bottom falls out of our carrier bag as we get off the busRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Yep. At the front with the cool kids at the back chucking chips at us as the tears stream down our cheeks as we contemplate having to do it again next weekend.Gribbo said:
Do we get a seat on the bus?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.5 -
Before we get mugged of our Walkman on the way home.EugenesAxe said:
As the bottom falls out of our carrier bag as we get off the busRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Yep. At the front with the cool kids at the back chucking chips at us as the tears stream down our cheeks as we contemplate having to do it again next weekend.Gribbo said:
Do we get a seat on the bus?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.4 -
Roland sell up?
Good one!
When Roland looks at the books today and see's the Valley sold out and punchy little Charlton Athletic were not involved in any shape or form I suspect he'll be having a quiet word with Sangaard, Asking him to take his tin pot football team and f**k off!4 -
Suspiciously specificRodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.12 -
This is what should have happened when Sandgaard bought the club.cafckev said:Rather than sell the club, I would be happy with a Peter Varney type character coming in and running the club. We need a footballing mind who knows our club. Let TS take the praise for a well run club but let someone else do the work
I no longer think it should happen now as it's obvious that Sandgaard would pay little attention to what Varney or anyone else would tell him as he just wouldn't listen.5 -
I agree with the roland part but sandgaard? Things aren't going smoothly at the moment but things are a lot better with Tommy in charge at the moment then when southall, Elliot, the dentist from cardiff etc were in charge.blackpool72 said:Sandgaard is an egotistical narsacist and no good will ever come from him being our owner.
But as I've pointed out many a time who will buy a loss making third division club with no assets.
Roland and Sandgaard between them have put us in a perilous position and I really don't know what the outcome will be.
it was only two years ago that there was the Charlton court case match thread on here. How close to folding were we?Roland sold to southall who separated the assets which put us in this position. Then we had the southall scandal, relegation due to efl embargo's, Dave Jones lined up, court cases etc. sandgaard saved us but has then got a couple of transfer windows wrong. Not exactly comparable in my view.6 -
And in the process get a fractured ‘favourite’ 😉 hand so can only have the pot noodle.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Before we get mugged of our Walkman on the way home.EugenesAxe said:
As the bottom falls out of our carrier bag as we get off the busRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Yep. At the front with the cool kids at the back chucking chips at us as the tears stream down our cheeks as we contemplate having to do it again next weekend.Gribbo said:
Do we get a seat on the bus?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:AFKABartram said:
There is not going to be a particularly long line of people willing to spend £50-60m up front, engaging in negotiations with two different groups of difficult people for two seperate ownerships, on a third tier club that loses millions, generates very little income and if successful, has multi-million charges against it!The Red Robin said:Whoever buys it, has to buy everything. Get rid of Roland at the same time.I actually struggle to think of another club, bar Coventry, as unattractive a proposition as us.
We're the ten to two in The Venue shuffling off home each season after half a dozen games for a pot noodle and a wank.
Then seeing our mates (Millwall and Palace) getting pulled into cabs with sorts as we cry ourselves home on the night bus listening to the Smiths and Raidohead on our sony walkmans.4
