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Sandgaard and our academy
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Has there been any news? Given no announcements on the official site or by the FA / Game Board I presume we’re still not there. It would be great to know if we’ve been told “you just need to x, y, z” for the optimists amongst us - or that we’ve got no chance for the pessimists to stay calm and start fuelling the inevitable bonfires.Cafc43v3r said:
These things are decided by the professional game board and they are meeting on Wednesday. Could be relevant, might not be.Dazzler21 said:
We've had at least one more assessment since then. I think the latest was just a few weeks ago. It's not a simple process as I understand it.RichmondSE10Exile said:This is not a knock against TS but does anyone know anything about our progress towards Cat 1? Thomas said it was progressing nicely back in November and that he could say more but I’ve not heard anything since.0 -
The only two articles I could find is this on the premier league no capping the amount of category one statuses
https://theathletic.com/3491051/2022/05/15/premier-league-wont-cap-amount-of-category-1-academies-as-birmingham-could-lose-status/?source=user_shared_article
and another article about Valley Gold.Not aware of anything more up to date (dispute the recent match reports).
Was going to ask I heard somewhere Sandgaard was considering the Brentford model (B team academy) is there any truth in this rumour?0 -
Old old news he’s moved on to cutting staff snd sulkingJustFloydRoad said:The only two articles I could find is this on the premier league no capping the amount of category one statuses
https://theathletic.com/3491051/2022/05/15/premier-league-wont-cap-amount-of-category-1-academies-as-birmingham-could-lose-status/?source=user_shared_article
and another article about Valley Gold.Not aware of anything more up to date (dispute the recent match reports).
Was going to ask I heard somewhere Sandgaard was considering the Brentford model (B team academy) is there any truth in this rumour?0 -
Give it a rest for god sake1
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True though isn't it?ecclesaddick said:Give it a rest for god sake0 -
“It”, you mean the truth, would you prefer I make something up that pleases you?ecclesaddick said:Give it a rest for god sake
sorry it’s not palatable but it will obviously horrify you to know what’s happening, be my guest have a look.0 -
You may want to have a look at the money spent on the Academy over the last 12 months .Maybe thats not palatable0
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Over half a million. 350k loan from a Third Party and 161k donation from Valley Goldecclesaddick said:You may want to have a look at the money spent on the Academy over the last 12 months .Maybe thats not palatable3 -
Nothing to do with how much has been spent in the past, talking about now, and it looks like there won’t be another penny spent now the cat 1 bid failed, which wasn’t ever going to happen as your mate refused to employ the required number of staff.ecclesaddick said:You may want to have a look at the money spent on the Academy over the last 12 months .Maybe thats not palatable
Bon appetite.0 -
Grow up.I Dont have a mate who refused to employ the required number of staff.Have a good day0
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It does seem that we were going for Cat 1 based on what we thought the academy should look like rather than what the set down rules are. I mean the number of staff employed is surely a fundamental requirement. Rightly or wrongly.1
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The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!11 -
Denies it then lists the ways in which he's cutting costs.EugenesAxe said:0 -
Sunderland had Cat 1 when they were relegated to League one and kept it throughout that time. It costs them 4 million a year to run that.Swisdom said:The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!
Even if we had been given it a few months ago, how did Sandgaard work out how to fund it? Did he seriously think he could do it on the cheap?
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Like everything probably didn’t plan that far ahead.2
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Correct - but they weren’t awarded it whilst in the third tier. That’s the big difference sadly.shirty5 said:
Sunderland had Cat 1 when they were relegated to League one and kept it throughout that time. It costs them 4 million a year to run that.Swisdom said:The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!
Even if we had been given it a few months ago, how did Sandgaard work out how to fund it? Did he seriously think he could do it on the cheap?0 -
Yes I stated that at the beginningSwisdom said:
Correct - but they weren’t awarded it whilst in the third tier. That’s the big difference sadly.shirty5 said:
Sunderland had Cat 1 when they were relegated to League one and kept it throughout that time. It costs them 4 million a year to run that.Swisdom said:The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!
Even if we had been given it a few months ago, how did Sandgaard work out how to fund it? Did he seriously think he could do it on the cheap?0 -
I wonder if there is money to be saved from restricting the use of bottled water ……….3
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Has anyone been given Cat 1, when they didn't own the training ground (or location of the academy)?0
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.Hornchurch said:Has anyone been given Cat 1, when they didn't own the training ground (or location of the academy)?0 -
If he was looking at Club funding, then given his overly optimistic financial projections, he expected more season ticket sales and matchday income. Lack of it is causing him to panic hence the gimmicks and finally the concession to reduce prices.shirty5 said:
Sunderland had Cat 1 when they were relegated to League one and kept it throughout that time. It costs them 4 million a year to run that.Swisdom said:The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!
Even if we had been given it a few months ago, how did Sandgaard work out how to fund it? Did he seriously think he could do it on the cheap?0 -
I think this has hit the nail on the head. I am sure he thought that it would be easy attracting money into the club through match day income and sponsorship etcswordfish said:
If he was looking at Club funding, then given his overly optimistic financial projections, he expected more season ticket sales and matchday income. Lack of it is causing him to panic hence the gimmicks and finally the concession to reduce prices.shirty5 said:
Sunderland had Cat 1 when they were relegated to League one and kept it throughout that time. It costs them 4 million a year to run that.Swisdom said:The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!
Even if we had been given it a few months ago, how did Sandgaard work out how to fund it? Did he seriously think he could do it on the cheap?0 -
He told club staff the Derby game would be a sell out. Nothing is impossible in a Sandgaard wonderland.swordfish said:
If he was looking at Club funding, then given his overly optimistic financial projections, he expected more season ticket sales and matchday income. Lack of it is causing him to panic hence the gimmicks and finally the concession to reduce prices.shirty5 said:
Sunderland had Cat 1 when they were relegated to League one and kept it throughout that time. It costs them 4 million a year to run that.Swisdom said:The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!
Even if we had been given it a few months ago, how did Sandgaard work out how to fund it? Did he seriously think he could do it on the cheap?
Back in the real world however2 -
Seems a little odd considering the academy is the main springboard of TS plans for the future. Develop youngsters, play them for a season then sell for millions.
Then again I find a lot of what TS says and does a little odd.2 -
Was he talking about the fixture at Derby ?shirty5 said:
He told club staff the Derby game would be a sell out. Nothing is impossible in a Sandgaard wonderland.swordfish said:
If he was looking at Club funding, then given his overly optimistic financial projections, he expected more season ticket sales and matchday income. Lack of it is causing him to panic hence the gimmicks and finally the concession to reduce prices.shirty5 said:
Sunderland had Cat 1 when they were relegated to League one and kept it throughout that time. It costs them 4 million a year to run that.Swisdom said:The decision to not get Cat 1 status was NOT just down to staffing and / or facilities.
all the noises from the people assessing were good ones.
a big issue is the fact we are in the 3rd tier and no club has been awarded Car 1 in the 3rd tier - despite us being the 8th most productive academy in the football league apparently.
this has pissed off a lot of people at the club, and I dare say Thomas is one of them!
Even if we had been given it a few months ago, how did Sandgaard work out how to fund it? Did he seriously think he could do it on the cheap?
Back in the real world however0 -
He didn't deny it though did he? He said the figure was not accurate. So, it could have been higher!J BLOCK said:
Denies it then lists the ways in which he's cutting costs.EugenesAxe said:1
