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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,402
    Out of our 4 wins this season, 3 of them we have had less possession than the opposition. The one we had more was against 10 men for over half the game 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,560
    NabySarr said:
    Out of our 4 wins this season, 3 of them we have had less possession than the opposition. The one we had more was against 10 men for over half the game 
    That’ll partly be due to playing more defensively once we’re winning and teams losing trying to get back into the game.

    Same for when we’re losing, opponents are happy for us to have the ball in our own half and will sit back in numbers being hard to break down.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    NabySarr said:
    Out of our 4 wins this season, 3 of them we have had less possession than the opposition. The one we had more was against 10 men for over half the game 
    That’ll partly be due to playing more defensively once we’re winning and teams losing trying to get back into the game.

    Same for when we’re losing, opponents are happy for us to have the ball in our own half and will sit back in numbers being hard to break down.
    Its also partly down to the fact we can't give the ball away when we haven't got it.  

    So many league 1 goals are scored from 2 or 3 passes after you get possession.


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,949
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  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,573
    Callumcafc said:
    Interesting and i'm not trying to knock it but if i've not mistaken the goals after 76 minutes have gained us an extra two points. Ipswich and Fleetwood, not much is it.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cafcsinger said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Interesting and i'm not trying to knock it but if i've not mistaken the goals after 76 minutes have gained us an extra two points. Ipswich and Fleetwood, not much is it.
    And Accrington 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,949
    The problem is we've also conceded eight goals after the 76th minute.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,141
    The 76th minute. The seventy-sixth minute.
    Why? 
    Fcuk me sideways.
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,573
    Cafc43v3r said:
    cafcsinger said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Interesting and i'm not trying to knock it but if i've not mistaken the goals after 76 minutes have gained us an extra two points. Ipswich and Fleetwood, not much is it.
    And Accrington 
    It was 1-1 after 75 minutes 

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,958
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    The 76th minute. The seventy-sixth minute.
    Why? 
    Fcuk me sideways.
    because it is broken down into 15 minute chunks
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,949
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    The 76th minute. The seventy-sixth minute.
    Why? 
    Fcuk me sideways.
    75:00 onwards is the 76th onwards.

    Breaking it down into 15 minute chunks

    0-15:00
    15:00-30:00
    30:00-45+

    45:00-60:00
    60:00-75:00
    75+
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,141
    Where are we in the last 15 minutes league table?  ;)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,949
    edited November 2022
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Where are we in the last 15 minutes league table?  ;)
    In terms of points, I have no idea. That would take some working out... :-)


    In terms of goal difference:

    Sheff Wed +6 (9-3)
    Port Vale +5 (7-2)
    Plymouth +4 (8-4)
    Portsmouth +4 (7-3)
    Derby +4 (6-2)
    ...
    ...
    lots of teams +3 to -2 including Charlton +2 (10-8)
    ...
    ...
    Morecambe -3 (4-7)
    Cambridge -6 (4-10)
    Forest Green -6 (2-8)
    Peterborough -6 (0-6)

    https://www.soccerstats.com/timing.asp?league=england3
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,141
    Callumcafc said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Where are we in the last 15 minutes league table?  ;)
    In terms of points, I have no idea. That would take some working out... :-)

    I know just the man  ;)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,949
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,141
    There's no context though is there?
    I wonder how many passes he attempted that were more than say 6 yards, compared to the hapless Albie Morgan for example
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,402
    Campbell only made 19 passes, our second fewest. The stat is pretty meaningless, especially as it’s probably that high due to Garner-ball rather than anything we are doing now. We did pass the ball far better than we have recently though, Fraser and Morgan definitely made a positive difference replacing Kilkenny and Payne 
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,313
    NabySarr said:
    Campbell only made 19 passes, our second fewest. The stat is pretty meaningless, especially as it’s probably that high due to Garner-ball rather than anything we are doing now. We did pass the ball far better than we have recently though, Fraser and Morgan definitely made a positive difference replacing Kilkenny and Payne 
    This
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,402
    https://twitter.com/_jkds_/status/1655708896302964737?s=46&t=mEmS51nyCqmemhJshcDkBA
    Brilliant thread of some end of season league 1 stats. CBT and JRS feature quite heavily but also Morgan, Dobson and Leaburn 

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,402


    Sandgaards dream to create a high pressing team has gone well…
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,560
    This one stood out to me.



    It’ll partly be our style of play, by sitting back we create space to counter attack and for JRS and CBT to run at the opposition.

    It’ll also take into account Stockley’s appearances (20 league starts plus 4 sub), he was very ineffective at pressing the opposition.

    I imagine it’ll look a lot better if we had a comparison of games where Leaburn started vs Stockley.

    Going to be interesting to see if Holden sticks with 4-3-3 or moves towards 3-5-2 which we know he likes. We need to replace JRS goals and that might be easier with two strikers than finding a wide player who can match or better the 15 he scored.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,402
    Scoham said:
    This one stood out to me.



    It’ll partly be our style of play, by sitting back we create space to counter attack and for JRS and CBT to run at the opposition.

    It’ll also take into account Stockley’s appearances (20 league starts plus 4 sub), he was very ineffective at pressing the opposition.

    I imagine it’ll look a lot better if we had a comparison of games where Leaburn started vs Stockley.

    Going to be interesting to see if Holden sticks with 4-3-3 or moves towards 3-5-2 which we know he likes. We need to replace JRS goals and that might be easier with two strikers than finding a wide player who can match or better the 15 he scored.
    I think we will stick with 4-3-3. Looking through those stats it shows how important the wide areas were for us. CBT and an improving Tyreece Campbell are a good starting point and replace JRS dribbling threat and ability to get us up the pitch. CBT goal output has improved and hopefully TC can also improve in that regard. 

    We need to sign another first choice winger that will add some goals and also a good striker to compete with Leaburn that adds more than Stockley/Bonnes 4 goals combined this season 

    Definitely agree that Stockley really limited our pressing stats, especially when Leaburn is highlighted in the thread for his pressing actions 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,949
    The frightening thing about it is that of the bottom six teams in that metric, five made up the bottom five. Charlton were outlier.

    Combined with the other charts showing how threatening both Blackett-Taylor and Rak-Sakyi were at the other end, it paints a pretty bleak picture regarding our outlook going forward without one or maybe both of them.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,560
    edited August 2023

  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,402
    From open play we’ve created 5.03 xG (2nd highest in the league) and conceded 3.65 xG (9th highest). That should be the makings of a decent team that would just need a slight defensive improvement to be up there. 

    What is letting us down is set pieces, we’ve only created 0.41 xG from them (23rd) and have conceded 2.21 xG (most in the league). If you’re creating more chances than you’re conceding then you’re obviously going to do well, our set piece struggles are basically cancelling out the fact that we are a good team in open play 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,402
    We’ve also won the most high turnovers (51) of which 15 have led to a shot. And our PPDA (passes per defensive action) of 10.7 is 3rd highest. So we are one of the best in the league in terms of pressing and winning the ball high up 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,116
    edited August 2023
    Who is responsible for our set pieces, is it Hayes?
    We have gone from one of the worst to THE WORST AT SET PIECES. 
    Holden agreed that this was a problem last season that they needed to work on. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,949
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,014
    It appears that Barrow have created one big chance all season but succeeded in scoring 5 goals. Dead ball specialists? 

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