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Carabao Cup Draw 22/23 - QF Draw: Man Utd v CAFC (p48) - confirmed 10th Jan
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:letthegoodtimesroll said:redbuttle said:I must admit last night I saw it as a shit tie, but was a bit deluded. They beat Arsenal away so they are a decent side. Thomas does have to reduce ticket prices though and if we get a few people turning up for their first game we might get some new fans if we give it a go..
Beaten Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal (cup) this season and drew with Liverpool and a rampant Newcastle. Currently 6th in the table and above Chelsea and Liverpool. But yes their season hasn't been great.........1 -
With no disrespect to Brighton intended, I wish Arsenal had beaten them. We might be the pride of London, and have to be pleased with a home draw, but we'll be rank outsiders, Brighton taking it seriously believing they're in with a realistic chance of making the final and winning it
Still, it's a one off and I don't doubt we'll acquit ourselves well with decent home support. You just never know. We might catch them on an off day, although we must hope to goodness that they don't catch us on one of ours!0 -
jimmymelrose said:Croydon said:DOUCHER said:Algarveaddick said:Only read a few comments, and some of you are batshit crazy. Surely we either want one of the Sky six (well one of the remaining three of the Sky six) at home and all the bells and whistles (and TV coverage) that goes with it, or my personal preference, Gillingham or a League One team at home? In other words a winnable game that could see us in the quarter finals for only the second time in sixty odd years.
Instead we are playing a very decent Premier League side, who are (and I mean no disrespect to a club that I am actually quite fond of) about as glamourous as we were when we graced the top flight, and who should beat us at a canter. We are the team that struggled to get a lucky draw at Stevenage a few days ago, FFS...
I have read talk of it being "winnable" - when did some of you start following the Addicks? Wednesday?
We have had potential upsets against us in recent times but have come through unscathed. Two examples have been in the last two weeks alone. Therefore we are not 'usually' on the receiving end.
In fairly recent history we've been knocked out by lower league opposition in cups - Sheff U, Wycombe, Hartlepool, Northwich Victoria. I've also watched us need a replay to beat Dagenham & Redbridge and get knocked out of a cup by Stoke over 2 legs when they were a division below. Have we caused an upset in the last 2 decades other than Chelsea away on penalties? (Hoping Callum or Airman can help with that one)
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redman said:Algarveaddick said:redman said:Dear me. I think this thread proves that Charlton Life attracts the most miserable and dull sections of our support. We get an excellent draw in my view, at home against a decent Prem side, and 90% of the people moan. No wonder so many Charlton fans, particularly younger ones don't visit here.
I want us to have a genuine high profile tie or to progress. Brighton isn't the former and their current standing (and the post World Cup timing) gives us little chance of the latter.
Let's look at what I wrote. "Surely we either want one of the Sky six (well one of the remaining three of the Sky six) at home and all the bells and whistles (and TV coverage) that goes with it...". Well, you agree with that, so moving along.
"...my personal preference, Gillingham or a League One team at home? In other words a winnable game that could see us in the quarter finals for only the second time in sixty odd years."
As you say, we have hardly ever been in the last sixteen, so wouldn't you prefer to go at least one better? And make the last eight for once? I don't think it is miserable and dull to want that?
"Instead we are playing a very decent Premier League side, who are (and I mean no disrespect to a club that I am actually quite fond of) about as glamourous as we were when we graced the top flight, and who should beat us at a canter." I said the same as you - decent Premier League team, so we agree on that too. As an old man who has been watching football for nearly fifty years, I stand by my opinion that they are not glamourous - they have spent nearly half that time in the bottom two divisions. I think we all tend to judge teams by where they were in our formative years, and other than that great cup run forty years ago, the Seagulls are not a club you associate with the big-time. They are, however, now a team to be reckoned with looking at them from our lowly position, and they will almost certainly play their strongest side in their first competetive post-World Cup match. I give us a 5% - 10% chance of getting a result.
"We are the team that struggled to get a lucky draw at Stevenage a few days ago, FFS..." - Well, that is just a fact, isn't it?
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letthegoodtimesroll said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:letthegoodtimesroll said:redbuttle said:I must admit last night I saw it as a shit tie, but was a bit deluded. They beat Arsenal away so they are a decent side. Thomas does have to reduce ticket prices though and if we get a few people turning up for their first game we might get some new fans if we give it a go..
Beaten Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal (cup) this season and drew with Liverpool and a rampant Newcastle. Currently 6th in the table and above Chelsea and Liverpool. But yes their season hasn't been great.........
You’re correct that they’ve won three in a row but one of the three wins you reference came in the cup so I’m not sure where you’re finding nine points in the league from.
When Potter left Brighton in September, they were 4th. They are now 6th and have never been lower than 8th all season. Nowhere near relegation trouble. “Nowhere near as good as some posters are making them out to be” or perhaps much better than you believe they are?
If you feel that Brighton are a small club and you’re disappointed, you’re allowed to feel that way. You don’t have to twist the truth to justify it.7 -
oohaahmortimer said:Covered end and Callum how can you be surprised at constant negativity when we’re going through the worst footballing period in our history
we’ve never had 4 consecutive league seasons on the spin in the third tier since we first got promoted out of it in 1929 we’re odds on for that to happen
it’s our ninth season in 14 in the third tier, in the previous 67 seasons we had 4 seasons in the third tier
yes we’ve had a bit of a league cup run , I for one would have wanted weak opposition at The Valley to go further
of course punters aren’t gonna be pulling themselves everywhere about stuff and a moan for the sake of it can become boring but wanking ourselves off when ninth in the third tier is never gonna happen , especially when you look at how our nearest and dearest have performed in recent years
if we were peppering the top two automatics with light clearly visible at the end of the tunnel then yes I’d understand the frustration of your good selves with the moan ups but realistically im not convinced we’ll be out of here this season or next .
We’ll be buzzing if we have orient in this division next year at least then we’ll have a local match to look forward to , woohoo
But what on earth does our depressing recent League history have to do with getting a cup draw against an established Premier League teams? Perhaps it’s easier for some to keep emotions related to separate competitions apart.The reality is that we’ve spent most of our history outside the top flight and so any year we draw the 6th best team in the country at home should be considered a result in my book.And with the competition set up the way it has been (no replays, no extra time), there’s never been a better chance of sneaking an upset too.
As someone said earlier, we’re playing Bristol Rovers the weekend before and Peterborough the weekend after. If you want to have a moan up about being in this poxy league four years in a row, be my guest and focus on those fixtures.1 -
LargeAddick said:Can’t believe some people are being meh about the draw. I was fearing Lincoln, Gills or MKD away or even worse Blackburn or Burnley. We have drawn a PL team at home, a good PL team, localish, will sell out the JS and I’m sure the home support will turn out too. Really don’t know what some people wanted?1
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Pelling1993 said:LargeAddick said:Can’t believe some people are being meh about the draw. I was fearing Lincoln, Gills or MKD away or even worse Blackburn or Burnley. We have drawn a PL team at home, a good PL team, localish, will sell out the JS and I’m sure the home support will turn out too. Really don’t know what some people wanted?2
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LargeAddick said:Pelling1993 said:LargeAddick said:Can’t believe some people are being meh about the draw. I was fearing Lincoln, Gills or MKD away or even worse Blackburn or Burnley. We have drawn a PL team at home, a good PL team, localish, will sell out the JS and I’m sure the home support will turn out too. Really don’t know what some people wanted?
We all hope we win, so let's hang on to that.1 -
After the Henry wondergoal and the penalty shoot out against QPR, it was kind of fun. Schlepping to both Walsall and Stevenage wasn’t fun, it will leave few memories.
So it doesn’t matter to me if Brighton are a premiership team or not. What I have to look forward to is our young players testing themselves against the very good players from our old mates from Brighton.
They will be well supported, will try to persuade us they hate Palace more than us, humm, it’s under the lights at the good old Valley in the festive season, my generation can attend with a back catalogue of great memories regarding Brighton. It will be colourful, it will be vibrant, it will be more effing fun than Walsall and Stevenage, it is veritable live unscripted improvised theatre, with the roar of the greasepaint and the smell of the crowd.
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Algarveaddick said:redman said:Algarveaddick said:redman said:Dear me. I think this thread proves that Charlton Life attracts the most miserable and dull sections of our support. We get an excellent draw in my view, at home against a decent Prem side, and 90% of the people moan. No wonder so many Charlton fans, particularly younger ones don't visit here.
I want us to have a genuine high profile tie or to progress. Brighton isn't the former and their current standing (and the post World Cup timing) gives us little chance of the latter.
Let's look at what I wrote. "Surely we either want one of the Sky six (well one of the remaining three of the Sky six) at home and all the bells and whistles (and TV coverage) that goes with it...". Well, you agree with that, so moving along.
"...my personal preference, Gillingham or a League One team at home? In other words a winnable game that could see us in the quarter finals for only the second time in sixty odd years."
As you say, we have hardly ever been in the last sixteen, so wouldn't you prefer to go at least one better? And make the last eight for once? I don't think it is miserable and dull to want that?
"Instead we are playing a very decent Premier League side, who are (and I mean no disrespect to a club that I am actually quite fond of) about as glamourous as we were when we graced the top flight, and who should beat us at a canter." I said the same as you - decent Premier League team, so we agree on that too. As an old man who has been watching football for nearly fifty years, I stand by my opinion that they are not glamourous - they have spent nearly half that time in the bottom two divisions. I think we all tend to judge teams by where they were in our formative years, and other than that great cup run forty years ago, the Seagulls are not a club you associate with the big-time. They are, however, now a team to be reckoned with looking at them from our lowly position, and they will almost certainly play their strongest side in their first competetive post-World Cup match. I give us a 5% - 10% chance of getting a result.
"We are the team that struggled to get a lucky draw at Stevenage a few days ago, FFS..." - Well, that is just a fact, isn't it?1 -
letthegoodtimesroll said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:letthegoodtimesroll said:redbuttle said:I must admit last night I saw it as a shit tie, but was a bit deluded. They beat Arsenal away so they are a decent side. Thomas does have to reduce ticket prices though and if we get a few people turning up for their first game we might get some new fans if we give it a go..
Beaten Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal (cup) this season and drew with Liverpool and a rampant Newcastle. Currently 6th in the table and above Chelsea and Liverpool. But yes their season hasn't been great.........
Their new manager came in because they were doing so well Potter was poached by Chelsea. It's not like they were doing shit and the results have improved since the new guy came in.4 -
redman said:Algarveaddick said:redman said:Algarveaddick said:redman said:Dear me. I think this thread proves that Charlton Life attracts the most miserable and dull sections of our support. We get an excellent draw in my view, at home against a decent Prem side, and 90% of the people moan. No wonder so many Charlton fans, particularly younger ones don't visit here.
I want us to have a genuine high profile tie or to progress. Brighton isn't the former and their current standing (and the post World Cup timing) gives us little chance of the latter.
Let's look at what I wrote. "Surely we either want one of the Sky six (well one of the remaining three of the Sky six) at home and all the bells and whistles (and TV coverage) that goes with it...". Well, you agree with that, so moving along.
"...my personal preference, Gillingham or a League One team at home? In other words a winnable game that could see us in the quarter finals for only the second time in sixty odd years."
As you say, we have hardly ever been in the last sixteen, so wouldn't you prefer to go at least one better? And make the last eight for once? I don't think it is miserable and dull to want that?
"Instead we are playing a very decent Premier League side, who are (and I mean no disrespect to a club that I am actually quite fond of) about as glamourous as we were when we graced the top flight, and who should beat us at a canter." I said the same as you - decent Premier League team, so we agree on that too. As an old man who has been watching football for nearly fifty years, I stand by my opinion that they are not glamourous - they have spent nearly half that time in the bottom two divisions. I think we all tend to judge teams by where they were in our formative years, and other than that great cup run forty years ago, the Seagulls are not a club you associate with the big-time. They are, however, now a team to be reckoned with looking at them from our lowly position, and they will almost certainly play their strongest side in their first competetive post-World Cup match. I give us a 5% - 10% chance of getting a result.
"We are the team that struggled to get a lucky draw at Stevenage a few days ago, FFS..." - Well, that is just a fact, isn't it?0 -
In our Prem pomp were third tier teams tugging themselves off when they drew us in the cup , I very much doubt it
as algarve points out we weren’t and Brighton aren’t the most exciting team to be playing
they’d be placed in the bottom third of prem teams you’d want to play(I know they’re not all through ) , no matter what their current position is I’m sure most would have preferred to play the team currently 8th in the Prem .
to me it’s a tough game and I have loads of respect for Brighton fans , I remember a few behind the West Stand during the car park protests of Roland .
I even went to a Brighton v Soton in the fa cup in the early eighties with a school mate .
first choice was an easy game
second choice a prem game against a team we may beat
third choice a big big club
I think we got second choice so happy with that , it’s all about our progression not tugging one off cos we’ve just seen Ronaldo on the bench
although the excitement my kids had seeing akinfemwa on the bench , maybe Ronaldo would be too much for them to take .
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Excellent draw for Charlton despite Brighton playing their first team: Brighton to declare in 70 minutes when 5-0 up and 5 first year scholars come on. Charlton send on CBT, Aneke, Kanu, JFC and Deji. We get it back to 4-5 before Chuks with the last shot of the match in added time wins the cross bar challenge and Charlton end up the unlucky losers.
Kanu and Deji impress Brighton who pay 2 million up front and we get Crofts in part exchange as player-coach.
Nine thousand crowd under the lights. The Seagulls have 85% possession for the first 70 minutes and Cafc have 95% possession for the last 20 minutes and added time. Brighton bring their own deckchairs and Cigars.
Charlton concentrate on the FA Cup but still have the treble to go for.
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No matter who we are facing,it’s just another game off football,you can only beat what is in front of you…I’m one of the seemingly few who think this could be a good game,our lot won’t be queuing up for their players shirts before the game & shouldn’t be overwhelmed by the occasion either,go on that pitch with a will to win & who knows,then we might get thrashed by city in the next round…👍0
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Croydon said:DOUCHER said:Algarveaddick said:Only read a few comments, and some of you are batshit crazy. Surely we either want one of the Sky six (well one of the remaining three of the Sky six) at home and all the bells and whistles (and TV coverage) that goes with it, or my personal preference, Gillingham or a League One team at home? In other words a winnable game that could see us in the quarter finals for only the second time in sixty odd years.
Instead we are playing a very decent Premier League side, who are (and I mean no disrespect to a club that I am actually quite fond of) about as glamourous as we were when we graced the top flight, and who should beat us at a canter. We are the team that struggled to get a lucky draw at Stevenage a few days ago, FFS...
I have read talk of it being "winnable" - when did some of you start following the Addicks? Wednesday?2 -
oohaahmortimer said:In our Prem pomp were third tier teams tugging themselves off when they drew us in the cup , I very much doubt it
as algarve points out we weren’t and Brighton aren’t the most exciting team to be playing
they’d be placed in the bottom third of prem teams you’d want to play(I know they’re not all through ) , no matter what their current position is I’m sure most would have preferred to play the team currently 8th in the Prem .
to me it’s a tough game and I have loads of respect for Brighton fans , I remember a few behind the West Stand during the car park protests of Roland .
I even went to a Brighton v Soton in the fa cup in the early eighties with a school mate .
first choice was an easy game
second choice a prem game against a team we may beat
third choice a big big club
I think we got second choice so happy with that , it’s all about our progression not tugging one off cos we’ve just seen Ronaldo on the bench
although the excitement my kids had seeing akinfemwa on the bench , maybe Ronaldo would be too much for them to take .
So yes I think they probably did.1 -
We were that unglamorous prem team once upon a time and we got turfed out in upsets as I was reminded of above - we can be the upsetter - I agree we really wanted a big boy or an easy ride - we have neither but actually there is a chance with Brighton - pretty much zero with a real big boy as they just don’t lose to teams like us - it happens to the lower lights in the prem, regardless of current form0
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And we just knocked them out the papa !!!!0
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Blimey I thought I was miserable when it comes to Charlton but reading some of the comments above I am mister happy.
We have had some great games against Brighton under the lights at The Valley so what’s not to like.
Home draw against a prem top six side and posters are complaining we are at home and not away and hoping Brighton play their kids.
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From Club web...
Ben Garner is anticipating a great Valley occasion when Charlton host Brighton & Hove Albion in the Carabao Cup round of 32.
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oohaahmortimer said:In our Prem pomp were third tier teams tugging themselves off when they drew us in the cup , I very much doubt it
This is as good as it gets now.2 -
Callumcafc said:oohaahmortimer said:In our Prem pomp were third tier teams tugging themselves off when they drew us in the cup , I very much doubt it
as algarve points out we weren’t and Brighton aren’t the most exciting team to be playing
they’d be placed in the bottom third of prem teams you’d want to play(I know they’re not all through ) , no matter what their current position is I’m sure most would have preferred to play the team currently 8th in the Prem .
to me it’s a tough game and I have loads of respect for Brighton fans , I remember a few behind the West Stand during the car park protests of Roland .
I even went to a Brighton v Soton in the fa cup in the early eighties with a school mate .
first choice was an easy game
second choice a prem game against a team we may beat
third choice a big big club
I think we got second choice so happy with that , it’s all about our progression not tugging one off cos we’ve just seen Ronaldo on the bench
although the excitement my kids had seeing akinfemwa on the bench , maybe Ronaldo would be too much for them to take .
So yes I think they probably did.
no second tier for yeovil and minimal for brentford so understandably it might mean a lot to a club of zero tradition in the higher echelons of the football ladder and they were games in the more glamorous FA Cup
we are not a minge of a club with no recent history of non league and 4th tier football
so Brighton is not a big deal to us we've played them in recent times
hence there wont be a big gate in south london because it doesn't mean much
now if it was liverpool , man utd or man city the ground would sell out
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Anyone any idea when this will be played?0
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Fortune 82nd Minute said:Anyone any idea when this will be played?0
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eaststandmike said:Blimey I thought I was miserable when it comes to Charlton but reading some of the comments above I am mister happy.
We have had some great games against Brighton under the lights at The Valley so what’s not to like.
Home draw against a prem top six side and posters are complaining we are at home and not away and hoping Brighton play their kids.
I don't think many, I have seen a couple though, that don't accept Brighton are, currently, one of the best teams in the country.
I remember the draws and defeats against Liverpool and Manchester United in the mid 90s much more clearly, and fondly even, than the draws and even wins against Wednesday, Blackburn (despite them being champions) and the like.
It's a good draw, in the sense it's a very good team, who will bring a good away following but it's not the sort of draw that's going to build massive excitement and be at the front of everyone's mind for the next 5 or 6 weeks like Manchester club or Liverpool would have done. Even if you argue Brighton are as good or better than two of them.4 -
Great draw....happy with that, of all things as i have to work over Christmas and the new year with one day off boxing day, we have booked a few days away, ironically in Brighton. So will have to watch the game down there somehow. Shame it wasnt away....0
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If we play Brighton with an 8,000 attendance (3,000 from Brighton), it will never be a memorable/semi memorable night. I mean memorable as opposed to the majority of games over recent years that are forgotten within weeks / months.
NB if the prices are £20 maximum we'll certainly get more despite what some say.
If Charlton fans turn up in numbers ie an attendance of 15,000 minimum and hopefully 20,000, it might, just might, be at worst a game Charlton fans can look forward to with anticipation and at best be more than that.
The ball is in our court.9 -
Problem is our genuine support is minimal and I don’t think this is attractive enough for our floaters
I’d be surprised if over 12k of home fans there1