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Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)
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You've really got to stop doing this.RonnieMoore said:@deanholdenuk we had him as a coach at Stoke and he was not only a superb coach who bought some of the best young players through, was also a top genuine bloke. He is dignified and professional to the end. If it's true. Good luck Dean, you'll smash it.2 -
Maybe you saw the original tweet that he is quoting?eastterrace6168 said:
Mmmm, where have i seen that before...🤔🙄RonnieMoore said:@deanholdenuk we had him as a coach at Stoke and he was not only a superb coach who bought some of the best young players through, was also a top genuine bloke. He is dignified and professional to the end. If it's true. Good luck Dean, you'll smash it.
Given the address at the front of the tweet it is from someone close to Dean.1 -
Why is quoting someone wrong?Bolderhumphreyreid said:
You've really got to stop doing this.RonnieMoore said:@deanholdenuk we had him as a coach at Stoke and he was not only a superb coach who bought some of the best young players through, was also a top genuine bloke. He is dignified and professional to the end. If it's true. Good luck Dean, you'll smash it.1 -
Sorry but I refuse to be reassured by the Holden appointment just because his Mum posts on Twitter3
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Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.26 -
We're not in a position to be taking a chance on Dean Holden.RC_CAFC said:Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.0 -
You folk do realise Forest are a PL team now? We are in the market for staff who have been sacked by Clubs in L2/L1, let alone the Championship and Premier league.2
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We are rummaging around in the clearance bin at Poundland.5
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Sorry, but this club has appointed a shite manager….sillav nitram said:
You’re a right ray of sunshine aren’t you?BigDiddy said:
He is too big headed to act sensibly. My view is he will run us into the ground and then walk away, plunging us into Administration. Might not happen this season, but one does not have to look too far to see other clubs that have either disappeared or dropped out of the leagues.SheedyCAFC said:Appointing a manager makes no sense if he’s selling up
I think we could end up in the national league….
I just hope he has not pissed off HMRC or the VAT man and that he walks away and leaves us with a pile of debt.
Another shite manager is the least of our problems
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Any manager we appoint will struggle until we get a credible owner. If whoever comes in as manager can organise our defence and keep us in L1 that will be a start.0
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But we are in a position as a club where we have to be taking a chance on someone.KentishAddick said:
We're not in a position to be taking a chance on Dean Holden.RC_CAFC said:Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.1 -
A predominantly championship level recruiter who wants to take his first step into a Director of Football role, so is dropping down to one of the biggest clubs in league one.NabySarr said:
Exactly, seems very odd that a premier league level recruiter would drop down to league 1. Maybe for more responsibility? But I can’t see him wanting to work with the budget cuts we’ve seen this seasonHardyAddick said:Andy Scott would not come here to source free transfers from div 2
Calling him premier league level is like saying Lyle Taylor is a premier league level striker.1 -
How do you arrive at that description? Holden is inexperienced but too early to say whether or not he is shite.BigDiddy said:
Sorry, but this club has appointed a shite manager….sillav nitram said:
You’re a right ray of sunshine aren’t you?BigDiddy said:
He is too big headed to act sensibly. My view is he will run us into the ground and then walk away, plunging us into Administration. Might not happen this season, but one does not have to look too far to see other clubs that have either disappeared or dropped out of the leagues.SheedyCAFC said:Appointing a manager makes no sense if he’s selling up
I think we could end up in the national league….
I just hope he has not pissed off HMRC or the VAT man and that he walks away and leaves us with a pile of debt.
Another shite manager is the least of our problems
Who would you have gone for?7 -
We're not in a position where we could realistically hope to get anyone much better.KentishAddick said:
We're not in a position to be taking a chance on Dean Holden.RC_CAFC said:Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.2 -
Will it be worth him unpacking his case ?0
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15 appointments in 16 years at Charlton. I wouldn’t be looking for a mortgageMikeBaileysFanClub said:Will it be worth him unpacking his case ?2 -
What type of football is Holdenball? Just ditching the pointless sideways passing at the back would cut out some of the goals we've leaked of late and if he can find a way to release the pace of CBT and JRS and get some goals out of Stockley and Leaburn then we should be able to get to mid table anything higher than that requires yet another complete squad and coaching overhaul which won't be cheap.KentishAddick said:
We're not in a position to be taking a chance on Dean Holden.RC_CAFC said:Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.2 -
Most managers would struggle at our club given the mess it is in however good they are. We just have to make sure we stay up this season.charente addick said:
But we are in a position as a club where we have to be taking a chance on someone.KentishAddick said:
We're not in a position to be taking a chance on Dean Holden.RC_CAFC said:Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.0 -
What a time to be alive.7
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Sounds like he may have been a decent coach. As a manager, since his first job at Walsall 7.5 years ago he’s only been a manager for 10 months in total:
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Look at his [non] record and total lack of experience!bobmunro said:
How do you arrive at that description? Holden is inexperienced but too early to say whether or not he is shite.BigDiddy said:
Sorry, but this club has appointed a shite manager….sillav nitram said:
You’re a right ray of sunshine aren’t you?BigDiddy said:
He is too big headed to act sensibly. My view is he will run us into the ground and then walk away, plunging us into Administration. Might not happen this season, but one does not have to look too far to see other clubs that have either disappeared or dropped out of the leagues.SheedyCAFC said:Appointing a manager makes no sense if he’s selling up
I think we could end up in the national league….
I just hope he has not pissed off HMRC or the VAT man and that he walks away and leaves us with a pile of debt.
Another shite manager is the least of our problems
Who would you have gone for?
We needed a Bowyer, Warnock……But our owner is intent on proving what a total jerk he is.
Another step down in our ongoing decline - sorry you can’t see that
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Win games. We can play like a Dave Bassett or a John Beck side, as long as win games no one cares on the style. You don’t extra points for artistic expressionEast Kent Addick said:
What type of football is Holdenball? Just ditching the pointless sideways passing at the back would cut out some of the goals we've leaked of late and if he can find a way to release the pace of CBT and JRS and get some goals out of Stockley and Leaburn then we should be able to get to mid table anything higher than that requires yet another complete squad and coaching overhaul which won't be cheap.KentishAddick said:
We're not in a position to be taking a chance on Dean Holden.RC_CAFC said:Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.2 -
Bowyer was one of the most inexperienced choices we could have gone for back in 2018...BigDiddy said:
Bowyer, Warnock……bobmunro said:
How do you arrive at that description? Holden is inexperienced but too early to say whether or not he is shite.BigDiddy said:
Sorry, but this club has appointed a shite manager….sillav nitram said:
You’re a right ray of sunshine aren’t you?BigDiddy said:
He is too big headed to act sensibly. My view is he will run us into the ground and then walk away, plunging us into Administration. Might not happen this season, but one does not have to look too far to see other clubs that have either disappeared or dropped out of the leagues.SheedyCAFC said:Appointing a manager makes no sense if he’s selling up
I think we could end up in the national league….
I just hope he has not pissed off HMRC or the VAT man and that he walks away and leaves us with a pile of debt.
Another shite manager is the least of our problems
Who would you have gone for?
He had no experience prior to joining Charlton in a consultancy (?) role before permanently joining the coaching staff under Robinson, and a lot of people prior to the Plymouth game expected a thrashing.4 -
We’re in a position where we have to do something and quickly. What management appointment do you think would be risk free, available, and would take the job?KentishAddick said:
We're not in a position to be taking a chance on Dean Holden.RC_CAFC said:Beyond really caring right now, but Holden himself doesn’t deserve any vitriol for taking a managers job and wanting to do the best for himself and his career.He deserves to be given a chance.
As for TS, he’s had all the chances I’m currently willing to give.
Easy to criticise, but by implication you are already saying the DOF is crap. I know nothing about Dean, but let’s give the guy at least half a game.2 -
It was a lot more than three, wasn’t it?KiwiValley said:Andy Scott’s first signing to be Lyle Taylor who he has worked with at Nottingham Forest.Lyle Taylor could definitely do a job for us …apart from his last three games of his contract obviously.1 -
The measure is points gained.
Or matches lost.
TS and Garner delivered utter rubbish in that regard, if Dean Holden (appointed by TS) does not deliver win after win it is reasonable to assume he is crap.
I am not interested in excuses or explanations from any quarter.
I have an open mind about Holden which will change according to results, not according to his haircut, not his ‘professionalism’, not his background, not his mum, not his experience, not his press conferences not his demeanour.
I want results.
Dean Holden if you’re reading this, every single game is a must win.8 -
Not an inspiring choice, but some of the comments about Holden are a bit unfair, as if he was a a Karel Fraeye or someone plucked from L2. Indeed on paper you could say his credentials were better than Garner's.
I'd certainly heard of him from his time at Bristol City - a club who've been a regular in the Championship for several years - while being assistant at Stoke, a well run and funded club, isn't the worse thing to have on your CV either.
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I would have taken a punt on Liam Manning. Might have worked. Might have gone terribly wrong, but there was something there last season.bobmunro said:
How do you arrive at that description? Holden is inexperienced but too early to say whether or not he is shite.BigDiddy said:
Sorry, but this club has appointed a shite manager….sillav nitram said:
You’re a right ray of sunshine aren’t you?BigDiddy said:
He is too big headed to act sensibly. My view is he will run us into the ground and then walk away, plunging us into Administration. Might not happen this season, but one does not have to look too far to see other clubs that have either disappeared or dropped out of the leagues.SheedyCAFC said:Appointing a manager makes no sense if he’s selling up
I think we could end up in the national league….
I just hope he has not pissed off HMRC or the VAT man and that he walks away and leaves us with a pile of debt.
Another shite manager is the least of our problems
Who would you have gone for?
At least with Manning one could construct the argument that we were trying to execute the same overall philosophy as with Garner. Now less than 6 months since the high press/possession based style and approach revolution, we are going for someone who is styled as a defensive manager. As usual with this administration - no coherent plan means no positive outcome.0 -
….and bollocks to any settling in period.6
