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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)
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But he could still play if not move!0
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Unfortunately some have already written him off and there’s nothing he can do to change minds.
He was the summer signing I was most excited about. There is talent there but we’ve yet to see it, mostly for reasons out of the lad’s control.11 -
Whether it’s 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 Holden likes to play 1 holding midfielder with 2 attacking 8s either side. That’s how he set up at Bristol City as well. I don’t see where McGrandles fits into that other than as Dobsons back up. Probably on pretty good wages so quite an expensive backup to keep around0
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People writing him off and his hardly played. I'm prepared to see what he can do, given a run in the side. The injuries are unfortunate, he's lacking match fitness, as observed in this afternoons U21 game, so why write him off?
People could be right that he's pants, or maybe pleasantly surprised, who knows?
Adkins didn't rate Dobbo, how wrong was he!2 -
Doesn't sound like we'll know much about deals going by this:
Holden said: “I won’t comment at all. It’s really important to me, coming into the job, that we do our work on the quiet because every time a comment comes out publicly it drives rumours and interest. We don’t want to alert any clubs either, in terms of what we’re doing in terms of players coming in or out.”
As it was in the good old days & as it should be I guess.
May as well close the rumours thread now
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Isn't McGrandles more of an 8 than a defensive player? He certainly prefers to be more attackingNabySarr said:Whether it’s 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 Holden likes to play 1 holding midfielder with 2 attacking 8s either side. That’s how he set up at Bristol City as well. I don’t see where McGrandles fits into that other than as Dobsons back up. Probably on pretty good wages so quite an expensive backup to keep around8 -
I appreciate what Holden says but the longer it goes on without us signing the more worried I will get. Especially when the sales are happening such as JFC.0
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I think he prefers it but I just can’t see him scoring/creating enough to be what we are missing as our 3rd midfielder alongside Dobson and Fraser. I’m sure he will get a go there but in my opinion we definitely need a new signing there that has got the energy that Morgan or Gilbey has (and McGrandles probably would have if he was fit) but a bit more quality in the final thirdkillerandflash said:
Isn't McGrandles more of an 8 than a defensive player? He certainly prefers to be more attackingNabySarr said:Whether it’s 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 Holden likes to play 1 holding midfielder with 2 attacking 8s either side. That’s how he set up at Bristol City as well. I don’t see where McGrandles fits into that other than as Dobsons back up. Probably on pretty good wages so quite an expensive backup to keep around0 -
I think our midfield three, if we play a three is Dobson, Fraser and Payne and we need another player in there to pick from. Dobson earns a place despite not scoring many so the other two need to be able to score and create and I see Fraser and Payne as the only two that come close to fitting that bill who we currently have and who is ready. I would prefer a player with a great shot as this is an area we are a bit lacking in IMO.0
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Good to read those comments.Gravesend_Addick said:Doesn't sound like we'll know much about deals going by this:
Holden said: “I won’t comment at all. It’s really important to me, coming into the job, that we do our work on the quiet because every time a comment comes out publicly it drives rumours and interest. We don’t want to alert any clubs either, in terms of what we’re doing in terms of players coming in or out.”
As it was in the good old days & as it should be I guess.
May as well close the rumours thread now
But it won't stop the rumours from drying up completely. Charlton are not the only party involved in negotiations, ins or outs.
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Depends. If we're genuinely going to keep CBT, JRS and Leaburn up front regularly, with Fraser as a 10, we can expect the other midfielder alongside Dobson to be more defensive. If CBT and JRS are going to be asked to constantly track back, or Fraser asked to defend, we need a more attacking bod. Either way, the answer isn't Kirk, DJ, Henry (yet) or Morgan, and I'd be (pleasantly) shocked if it's McGrandles.MuttleyCAFC said:I think our midfield three, if we play a three is Dobson, Fraser and Payne and we need another player in there to pick from. Dobson earns a place despite not scoring many so the other two need to be able to score and create and I see Fraser and Payne as the only two that come close to fitting that bill who we currently have and who is ready. I would prefer a player with a great shot as this is an area we are a bit lacking in IMO.
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And nothing you can do if the player goes & sits in The Valley cafe & tells all & sundry that he's signing for Charlton.Callumcafc said:
Good to read those comments.Gravesend_Addick said:Doesn't sound like we'll know much about deals going by this:
Holden said: “I won’t comment at all. It’s really important to me, coming into the job, that we do our work on the quiet because every time a comment comes out publicly it drives rumours and interest. We don’t want to alert any clubs either, in terms of what we’re doing in terms of players coming in or out.”
As it was in the good old days & as it should be I guess.
May as well close the rumours thread now
But it won't stop the rumours from drying up completely. Charlton are not the only party involved in negotiations, ins or outs.5 -
There is Henry as well, who does have a great shot.MuttleyCAFC said:I think our midfield three, if we play a three is Dobson, Fraser and Payne and we need another player in there to pick from. Dobson earns a place despite not scoring many so the other two need to be able to score and create and I see Fraser and Payne as the only two that come close to fitting that bill who we currently have and who is ready. I would prefer a player with a great shot as this is an area we are a bit lacking in IMO.0 -
Telephone, telegram, tellanagentCallumcafc said:
Good to read those comments.Gravesend_Addick said:Doesn't sound like we'll know much about deals going by this:
Holden said: “I won’t comment at all. It’s really important to me, coming into the job, that we do our work on the quiet because every time a comment comes out publicly it drives rumours and interest. We don’t want to alert any clubs either, in terms of what we’re doing in terms of players coming in or out.”
As it was in the good old days & as it should be I guess.
May as well close the rumours thread now
But it won't stop the rumours from drying up completely. Charlton are not the only party involved in negotiations, ins or outs.1 -
Yeah that would definitely be my first choice 3 at the moment. But still unconvinced on Payne as he’s been quite inconsistent so could do with another option that will add goals to the team. I don’t think Morgan, Gilbey, McGrandles or Henry fit the billMuttleyCAFC said:I think our midfield three, if we play a three is Dobson, Fraser and Payne and we need another player in there to pick from. Dobson earns a place despite not scoring many so the other two need to be able to score and create and I see Fraser and Payne as the only two that come close to fitting that bill who we currently have and who is ready. I would prefer a player with a great shot as this is an area we are a bit lacking in IMO.0 -
Bolton sign Randell Williams on a permanent deal from Hull0 -
I agree but he hasn't fully made the leap yet.Southbank said:
There is Henry as well, who does have a great shot.MuttleyCAFC said:I think our midfield three, if we play a three is Dobson, Fraser and Payne and we need another player in there to pick from. Dobson earns a place despite not scoring many so the other two need to be able to score and create and I see Fraser and Payne as the only two that come close to fitting that bill who we currently have and who is ready. I would prefer a player with a great shot as this is an area we are a bit lacking in IMO.1 -
We had Championship club competition for McGrandles and my Lincoln supporting mate said he was very consistently good for them (a la Dobson style). We as fans see some players’ performances a bit binary at times forgetting we are watching professional rather than park footie and these players are given very specific instructions to follow in game, or able to do what they like and play how they prefer to play. I have an inkling based on what my Imps mate has told me that it was anticipated that McG would be doing the Dobbo role this season, but Dobbo proved to Garner early on that he was not for benching and since, in the scant opportunities McG has had, he has not been able to play ‘his’ preferred game type. May be wrong of course, but I struggle to accept that this player is as ‘pony’ as some believe, his past club performances and transfer competition considered.Arguably, Stockley, at least in part, has been a victim of formation and instructions too which do not fit his style of play. He works better in the traditional front two with a channel runner or nippier type who gives him time to find a bit of space for headers from crosses etc. Isolated as a lone striker with his lack of movement just leaves him marked out and frustrated with literally everybody on the pitch including himself.In hindsight, a completely fcuked up summer transfer window policy is the root cause of a lot of these issues. Computer says fcuk off!10
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Barnsley sign Max Watters on loan from Cardiff.0 -
A good signing for them.MarcusH26 said:
Bolton sign Randell Williams on a permanent deal from Hull0 - Sponsored links:
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Weighing in on the Mcgrandles thread. Describes himself as a box to box player first and likes to get forward and be attacking but can play deeper.
I don't know about "hate" as such, just hasn't lived up to some of the hype he was getting when signed I think. As a self described attacking player his stats to date aren't that great. Still plenty of time for him to prove himself though. Seems to be a consistent type which would be perfect this season with so many flip flop players in the side!1 -
He was seriously highly rated a couple of years back. Could be decent for themMarcusH26 said:
Barnsley sign Max Watters on loan from Cardiff.2 -
A friend of mine a Lincoln fan described Mcgrandles as average and often goes missing . Bang on so far.CL_Phantom said:Weighing in on the Mcgrandles thread. Describes himself as a box to box player first and likes to get forward and be attacking but can play deeper.
I don't know about "hate" as such, just hasn't lived up to some of the hype he was getting when signed I think. As a self described attacking player his stats to date aren't that great. Still plenty of time for him to prove himself though. Seems to be a consistent type which would be perfect this season with so many flip flop players in the side!1 -
Martin Sandgaard?MuttleyCAFC said:I think our midfield three, if we play a three is Dobson, Fraser and Payne and we need another player in there to pick from. Dobson earns a place despite not scoring many so the other two need to be able to score and create and I see Fraser and Payne as the only two that come close to fitting that bill who we currently have and who is ready. I would prefer a player with a great shot as this is an area we are a bit lacking in IMO.5 -
Totally agree. I thought we had learned the lesson of leaving our business until the last minute. Other clubs, Plymouth, Bolton, Barnsley etc seem to be able to sign players, why not us? Beginning to think we have been sold a pup.MuttleyCAFC said:I appreciate what Holden says but the longer it goes on without us signing the more worried I will get. Especially when the sales are happening such as JFC.1 -
People think football black and white but it’s not .. people who have written him off most likey the same that wrote of Dobson and ClareCallumcafc said:Unfortunately some have already written him off and there’s nothing he can do to change minds.
He was the summer signing I was most excited about. There is talent there but we’ve yet to see it, mostly for reasons out of the lad’s control.1 -
It's 5th January. I'm happy to be a little more patient.DICKIE PLUMB said:
Totally agree. I thought we had learned the lesson of leaving our business until the last minute. Other clubs, Plymouth, Bolton, Barnsley etc seem to be able to sign players, why not us? Beginning to think we have been sold a pup.MuttleyCAFC said:I appreciate what Holden says but the longer it goes on without us signing the more worried I will get. Especially when the sales are happening such as JFC.20 -
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/hes-got-a-temper-on-him-lincoln-city-verdict-on-charlton-new-boy-conor-mcgrandles/MintoHumbugs said:
A friend of mine a Lincoln fan described Mcgrandles as average and often goes missing . Bang on so far.CL_Phantom said:Weighing in on the Mcgrandles thread. Describes himself as a box to box player first and likes to get forward and be attacking but can play deeper.
I don't know about "hate" as such, just hasn't lived up to some of the hype he was getting when signed I think. As a self described attacking player his stats to date aren't that great. Still plenty of time for him to prove himself though. Seems to be a consistent type which would be perfect this season with so many flip flop players in the side!Of course in football there is a lot of subjectivity, however this is what I would say is probably a fair assessment of McGrandles by someone who would have seen a lot of him - and lines up with what I have heard about him from other sources as well.At the end of the day we’ve seen less than a combined 2 competitive matches worth of minutes from him - so seems pointless really trying to judge him, and I don’t understand the obsession with some of the fan base to continue to want to dismiss him.9 -
He’s not even average.MintoHumbugs said:
A friend of mine a Lincoln fan described Mcgrandles as average and often goes missing . Bang on so far.CL_Phantom said:Weighing in on the Mcgrandles thread. Describes himself as a box to box player first and likes to get forward and be attacking but can play deeper.
I don't know about "hate" as such, just hasn't lived up to some of the hype he was getting when signed I think. As a self described attacking player his stats to date aren't that great. Still plenty of time for him to prove himself though. Seems to be a consistent type which would be perfect this season with so many flip flop players in the side!
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So, sod all going on here, but at least we have been kept up to date with the going's on at Barnsley and Bolton,, great... 🤷♂️
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